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Old 09-05-06, 07:58 PM
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Pineapple Racing Products

This thread is to inform you of the Pineapple Racing product line. Many people think of us as simply an engine builder, but we also manufacture and sell many products of our own as well as retailing products from other vendors. We also sell the entire Mazda factory product line at great prices (about 15-20% off retail). Only a fraction of the parts we sell are listed on our web site, so please call us if there is something you don't see.

I will post more in detail later, but here is a quick and dirty listing of our more popular products:

Rotary Engine Stand Adaptor. Adapts a rotary engine to a conventional engine stand, making rebuilding work much, much easier.

Alternator Relocation Bracket. Relocates the alternator from the top of the engine down to the driver's side (LHD). This lowers the center of gravity, provides better belt contact with the water pump, permits the use of an electric water pump and cleans up the top of the engine.

Yoohoo Belt. A Yoohoo Belt is a small v-belt that runs between the water pump and main pulleys on cars without an airpump. The very small amount of alternator belt contact with the water pump pulley causes slipping when the airpump is removed. Many people run a dual alternator belt setup, but not only is it more expensive than a simple Yoohoo Belt, but it is a poor alternative. Two belt of the same nominal size almost always differ slightly in actual size, making it virtually impossible to tension equally.

Radiused 6-Port Sleeve Inserts. These little CNC-machined aluminum inserts slip into the stock 6-port sleeves of 1984-1991 13B NAs, increasing mid- and high-range power. While we usually guestimate about 8 HP, every setup is different so result vary. The 8 HP is based on improvements to trap speed on back-to-back 1/4 mile runs on our test vehicle. The difference is noticable.

FC Aluminum Oil Pan. Cast aluminum high-capacity oil pan for 2nd gen RX-7s. Stiffens engine, holds one quart more oil, baffles to control slosh, "windage" tray to help de-aerate the oil before it returns to the pan.

FD Aluminum Oil Pan. Cast Aluminum high-capacity oil pan for 3rd gen RX-7s. Manufactured in cooperation with Xcessive Motorsports.

FD Lower Intake Manifold. Better, more equally flowing lower intake for 3rd gen RX-7s, sporting four secondary injector bungs.

FD Airpump Elimination Idler Pulley Kit. Special pulley tucked under water pump neck to take the place of the air pump pulley, preventing the water pump from slipping. Most large single turbos do not fit with the air pump installed, but deleting the air pump causes the water pump to slip. This pulley wraps the serpentine belt around the water pump, preventing slippage without causing a fitment problem with the turbo. An over-tensioned belt can wear bearings, break belts and even break the eccentric shaft (!!!).

Dual EGT gauge kit for all rotary engines. Gauge reads exhaust temperature of both exhaust primaries simultaneously, showing you the combustion balance between front and rear rotors. Gauge reads up to 2000ºF and is marked "F" and "R" (Front and Rear). Manufactured exclusively for Pineapple Racing by aircraft gauge manufacturer Hewitt Industries.

Engine Shipping and Storage Cover Plate kits. Various stainless steel plates to cover things like, intake & exhaust ports, oil filler neck, oil filter pedistal, water pump, timing cover, OMP, turbo drains, etc. Kits include plastic caps for other openings, allowing you to seal off dirt, debris and rodents from infiltrating your stored engine. Looks much better than duct tape or rags.

Weber carburettors. We sell Weber Carburettors very inexpensively. For example, we sell the Weber 48IDA for only $450 vs. the $500+ you see elsewhere.

1st gen screw-in wheel stud conversions. 12A 1st gens came with lug studs, making wheel changes a PITA. Wheel studs and lug nuts are a great upgrade. We sell three different screw-in stud lengths and bulge-nuts at very affordable prices.

Genuine Mazda Pilot Bearing tool. Nothing removes pilot bearings like the genuine factory tool! Most places sell the tool for $115 or more. Our price is $99.95, brand new. We also sell the Heavy Duty throw out bearing that was only available for one year, but fits all Turbo and NA RX-7s from 1979-1991.

Vinyl graphics. We have an in-house vinyl cutter and wide assortment of rotary-specific graphics. Standard graphics are available, but we can also do custom work at very affordable prices.

Electric Water Pump. We are working on a bolt on kit for a Davies Craig Electric Water Pump. The Davies Craig EWP is the only electric water pump proven by winning the 24 Hours of Le Mans in GTS category. 90 and 110 lpm versions are available.

Ultra-high Temp Graphite exhaust gaskets. We have developed a line of ultra-high temp graphite exhaust gaskets for virtually every application. This material crushes approximately 50%, allowing as much as 40-thousanths of an inch warpage (that's a LOT of warpage). Costs about half, or less, the price of the stock gaskets. We have NA and turbo sets. Exhaust to manifold. Manifold to turbo. Turbo to Downpipe. T04 flange. And the common downstream gaskets.

FC Stainless Steel Crank Angle Sensor Covers engraved with the Pineapple Racing logo. These covers really dress up your engine bay. They also have timing directional cues engraved, so you know which way to turn to advance or retard timing.

Evans NPG+ and NPG-R Waterless Coolant. Evans NPG (non-aqueous propylene glycol) is amazing stuff. The boiling point is 375ºF at ZERO PSI. It never needs to be changed, does not cause corrosion. Eliminates nucleate boiling on engine hotspots, which is the cause of poor heat transfer with normal Ethylene Glycol & Water (EGW) coolant under severe conditions. We have been using this product successfully for many years on race and street cars. Very expensive ($34 per gallon) but worth every penny on cooling-challenged cars.

That's just the tip of the iceburg. I will try to expand on the descriptions and add photos to this thread in later posts. For now, please visit our web site online store for photos and descriptions. Online store: >> HERE <<.
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Originally Posted by Blake
Alternator Relocation Bracket. Relocates the alternator from the top of the engine down to the driver's side (LHD). This lowers the center of gravity, provides better belt contact with the water pump, permits the use of an electric water pump and cleans up the top of the engine.

When is this going to be available for the FD?
Old 09-29-06, 10:36 PM
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Good line up of products! I'll deffinately be splurging some cash on a few of your products in the future!
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Originally Posted by Mr. Stock
When is this going to be available for the FD?
I wish I had an ETA but that's so far on the back-burner it's not funny. Every FD we work on has power steering and a mechanical water pump, so we can't verify in-car fitment issues first hand. The market is, like, a dozen people. And the one person I sent a prototype to didn't give me enough feedback to make adjustments to the design. So, unless we get an FD in the shop from a customer who wants to delete PS/AC and run an electric WP, there won't be much progress, I am sorry to say.

That said, I suppose we could sell a do-it-yourself kit, consisting of the basic bracket, the end-bosses and fasteners which the customer could then modify as necessary and weld together to suit their setup. If you are interested in that, I might be able to help.
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...So, unless we get an FD in the shop from a customer who wants to delete PS/AC and run an electric WP, there won't be much progress, I am sorry to say.
Why does the PS have to go?

AC, no problem, but I like having PS.
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Originally Posted by jkstill
Why does the PS have to go?

AC, no problem, but I like having PS.
Well, it's possible to figure something out there, but it means a lot more work than simply modifying the existing FC bracket. I'm willing to do it, but the cost will go up significantly unless that feature expands the potential market two or three times over...perhaps it will.

With the FDs, I would probably end up wrapping the whole enchilada together into a kit: Electric Water Pump, Electronic Temp Controller, Plumbing and Alternator Relocation Braket. Somewhere around $700 or $800, but that's just a guess. There is probably a bigger market for a kit than for components.
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I was searching around and found a guy with a before and after dyno for the 6-port sleeves, but it was 4 years ago so the pic is gone. Do you happen to have a picture of that (or any other) dyno so I can see what it does to the overall torque curve? Peak HP is great, but I want to know what it does all over.
That said, what is the turnaround time on ya'll installing the inserts on sleeves that get sent to you?
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Originally Posted by Sideways7
I was searching around and found a guy with a before and after dyno for the 6-port sleeves, but it was 4 years ago so the pic is gone. Do you happen to have a picture of that (or any other) dyno so I can see what it does to the overall torque curve? Peak HP is great, but I want to know what it does all over.
That said, what is the turnaround time on ya'll installing the inserts on sleeves that get sent to you?
No, I don't have before and after dyno sheets. It's an inexpensive product with results you can feel, so there is little call for proving anything on the dyno (not that dyno results constitute anything like proof, seeing how easy it is to mess with the results). We estimate about 8 HP, but you are free to accept or reject that. At any rate it is the best $50 you will spend. I do have a dyno sheet a customer brought in, but it's only an "after". As you can see, the torque curve is phenominal. I'm not sure the numbers are right, because they are beyond expectation, though it is a large streetport S5 13B with oil mods, full exhaust and S-AFC. But, I have no reason to doubt them either, considering the customer is not a braggart and the dyno operator is completely legit and a good technician (former medical X-ray equipment salesman). Anyway, the torque curve looks very similar to stock but picks up a bit more after the sleeves open.

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That said, what is the turnaround time on ya'll installing the inserts on sleeves that get sent to you?
Turnaround is about one business day, unless they are not clean. We normally ship Priority Mail, which is 2-3 day service nationwide. Shipping cost is $4.05 each way.
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Ok, sounds good. I will probably do that in a month or two when I decide 100% that I'm going to stay NA and not do a turbo swap.
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To go the EWP route... Is it absolutely neccessary to remove AC and PS?

If so, I guess I will just have to pick up a 93 roller that I don't mind doing all of that to. Perhaps a dedicated track/autocross car....

I am going to wander off and ponder now.....
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are the fd idler pully kits available?
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Originally Posted by DriftDreamzSS
are the fd idler pully kits available?
Unfortunately, no. We got another small batch made up but they were sold-out almost immediately to people we had on waiting list. We have plans for more but our usual CNC machinist has a big contract with Leatherman Tool Group and we are perpetually on the back-burner lately. We are scouting new machinists, but this is not a really high priority right now. While the small second batch went quickly, the first batch was like selling refrigerators to eskimoes. People did not understand the need. Perhaps that has changed, but we will need to see a stronger demand before we fall over ourselves to make them in quantity again.
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Do you have any upgraded fd oil pans available in stock? Also looking for the fuel rail for the GZ lim. Pm me please, I would drive down from seattle to pick them up, Thanks -Matt
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Do you have any upgraded fd oil pans available in stock? Also looking for the fuel rail for the GZ lim. Pm me please, I would drive down from seattle to pick them up, Thanks -Matt
I currently have one unsold FD pans in stock and more are a phone call away. The fuel rails take about a week to get ahold of. Perhaps less if we ask for faster shipping. We get them from the same source as GZ.
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Water Seals Kit?

Hi Blake, you mention Pineapples Viton water seals in several of your posts on engine building. Do you offer them in a kit for the home DIYer? I didn't find them on the website...
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Hi Blake, you mention Pineapples Viton water seals in several of your posts on engine building. Do you offer them in a kit for the home DIYer? I didn't find them on the website...
Yes, we do. The price is $195 separately ($99 as an upgrade to our engine building kits) and include the water seals, dowel o-rings, rear stationary gear o-ring and oil filter pedistal o-rings.

Anytime you can't find something on our web site, go ahead and call us about it. I can give you pricing and options on the phone and if enough people call I will be motivated to put it online. Right now, our online cart sucks and I am avoiding adding to it until we switch to a much more advanced e-commerce solution.
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6 port sleaves

how much for the 6 port sleaves shipped to 08360. do we get any discounts for being members? on the site the total comes to $53.05.
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how much for the 6 port sleaves shipped to 08360. do we get any discounts for being members? on the site the total comes to $53.05.
That total is correct. $49 plus $4.05 for priority mail.
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So, unless we get an FD in the shop from a customer who wants to delete PS/AC and run an electric WP, there won't be much progress, I am sorry to say.
So what would the cost be to the "customer" to be the guinea pig for this? And how long would it take?

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So what would the cost be to the "customer" to be the guinea pig for this? And how long would it take?

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I may already have a guinea pig lined up, and it is a dedicated race car so there would not be a huge time constraint if we proceed. No matter what, we need to get anything that comes into the shop turned around as quickly as possible due to space constraints, but I don't want an owner breathing down my neck on top of other pressures because they need their daily driver back on a certain date.

If the other car falls through (it is pretty tentative), I would be willing to consider another candidate. My expectation is that the power steering and AC are already deleted, so we are just fabbing up a kit to mount and plumb the EWP. If that is the case, the cost would be minimal and the job quicker. I would want to see the car and consult with Rob before giving an estimate, but it would probably just be the cost of the EWP, EWP controller, material for brackets and such, and the plumbing bits and pieces. Any additional work to get to that point would be charged labor at the normal shop rate. Depending on the car, we may need to do something to the radiator that would be an additional charge. Again, I would want to evaluate the candidate car and owner to see what would be the best approach and come up with a good estimate of costs. In other words, it all depends.
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I may already have a guinea pig lined up, and it is a dedicated race car so there would not be a huge time constraint if we proceed. No matter what, we need to get anything that comes into the shop turned around as quickly as possible due to space constraints, but I don't want an owner breathing down my neck on top of other pressures because they need their daily driver back on a certain date.

If the other car falls through (it is pretty tentative), I would be willing to consider another candidate. My expectation is that the power steering and AC are already deleted, so we are just fabbing up a kit to mount and plumb the EWP. If that is the case, the cost would be minimal and the job quicker. I would want to see the car and consult with Rob before giving an estimate, but it would probably just be the cost of the EWP, EWP controller, material for brackets and such, and the plumbing bits and pieces. Any additional work to get to that point would be charged labor at the normal shop rate. Depending on the car, we may need to do something to the radiator that would be an additional charge. Again, I would want to evaluate the candidate car and owner to see what would be the best approach and come up with a good estimate of costs. In other words, it all depends.

My car was in a couple weeks ago for Rob to inspect thoroughly
So Rob should have an idea of what the interior of the car is like.

The car will be in your shop all day Monday for you guys to play with...not sure if you wanted to fool around with this at that point, but I'd be ok with it...how much for the parts you mentioned above (PM is fine)?

Thanks,

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any update on the FD alternator relocation bracket? my FD is now without the A/C and P/S, but i still have the mechanical water pump. if the alternator relocation works with this setup, i'd love to get it whenever you do offer it. i'd offer up my car as the guinea pig for as long as you want it, but it's not exactly in one piece and the distance may be an issue
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Blake..Is there a way to get a set of six port Sleeves up here to me in Ontario canada?...Do you guys take Paypal?..please let me know via Pm..I have heard Nothing but good about your Products and I plan to Buy More..(after I get them sleeves in!..haha!)..thanks..STYX.
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yes, i am very interested in the EWP and alt relocation


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