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GSXRATED 12-11-12 11:23 AM

Unfortunately, you are not going to find much information about the specific application of a 1J/2J into an FD anywhere. There are a few places that will make you a harness, but they are tight-lipped the actual process for obvious reasons. There is no posted guide for wiring this swap like their are for the LS engines. If you choose to do it yourself, like I did, be prepared to spend some time with both the Toyota and Mazda electrical manuals. If you are just keeping the factory harness and connecting the necessary +12V constant, +12V switched, and grounds, it isn't really too bad. When you get into harness simplification, adding sensors, removing sensors, etc. that's where it gets a little more tricky. If wiring isn't something you are very comfortable taking on, I would recommend getting someone else to modify your harness for you.

allrotor93 12-11-12 04:51 PM

I assume a haltech would suffice with the wiring?

CKxx 12-12-12 08:24 PM

That motor is insanely high. Here is my 2J (1" taller than 1JZ).

EDIT: And yes, this is with perfectly corrected bump-steer...and no, I didn't cut that hole. The car came with a V-Mount intercooler.
Hood is latched. It clears, but only without the oil fill cap. :lol: :lol:

https://imageshack.us/a/img706/8036/20121117175946.jpg

GSXRATED 12-12-12 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by allrotor93 (Post 11313925)
I assume a haltech would suffice with the wiring?

I'm not very familiar with the Haltech wiring harness, but yes, that would take care of the engine control for the most part. You would still have to take care of the dash sensor connections, alternator wiring, and a few other things.


Originally Posted by CKxx (Post 11315192)
That motor is insanely high. Here is my 2J (1" taller than 1JZ).

EDIT: And yes, this is with perfectly corrected bump-steer...and no, I didn't cut that hole. The car came with a V-Mount intercooler.
Hood is latched. It clears, but only without the oil fill cap. :lol: :lol:

My 2J fits under my hood with no hole:nod:
Attachment 688505
Attachment 688506

Still haven't gotten to the bump steer correction just yet though...but I have a plan for that.

MK3Brent 12-12-12 09:13 PM

I dunno, Dev.
From my calculations, the engine is just way too close to the ground.

I hope once you get it driving, and bouncing around on the street that you will prove otherwise. (That it's very street-able.)

Perhaps I'm too conservative on what I believe a proper "ride-height" should be. :D

CKxx 12-12-12 09:33 PM

I don't plan to "slam" the car, and my tires aren't exactly low profile (buys me over 1/2"), so that should help a tad.

GSXRATED 12-12-12 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MK3Brent (Post 11315241)
I dunno, Dev.
From my calculations, the engine is just way too close to the ground.

I hope once you get it driving, and bouncing around on the street that you will prove otherwise. (That it's very street-able.)

Perhaps I'm too conservative on what I believe a proper "ride-height" should be. :D

I would like to know what angle the engines sit at using the tech 2 kit. I sat my engine between 2-3* down in the rear, and will match that when I finish the diff mount.

Using a manual converted rack now, I could have raised my steering rack back up enough to be within 1" of the factory location.

I hope to have her driving and prove my beliefs soon...I hope :lol:

My idea of a "proper" ride height:
Attachment 688504

CKxx 12-12-12 09:37 PM

I sat mine level because I measured near-zero motor angle off a bone stock Supra. Who knows if that's correct, but it should at least be close.

MK3Brent 12-13-12 08:20 AM

The engine is parallel to the ground.
Semi-solid engine mounts bolted to the flat surface of the subframe.

YoshiFD3S 12-13-12 04:57 PM

So what are YOU guys doing about bumpsteer?

I still haven't found a solution to mine, since I need about 2" spacers to make up for having my steering rack lowered 2"...

Help?

CKxx 12-13-12 05:49 PM

If I may...

Brent is on a Tech2 kit, so no correction needed.
I'm on a Samberg V8 cradle and appropriate corrective rod ends.
GSX (Devon, iirc), last we spoke, was planning to use the car for drag 99% of the time, and sort it out if the bumpsteer was an issue

Pardon me if I'm incorrect.

GSXRATED 12-13-12 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by CKxx (Post 11316209)
If I may...

Brent is on a Tech2 kit, so no correction needed.
I'm on a Samberg V8 cradle and appropriate corrective rod ends.
GSX (Devon, iirc), last we spoke, was planning to use the car for drag 99% of the time, and sort it out if the bumpsteer was an issue

Pardon me if I'm incorrect.

Pretty close for me (misspelled my name, but I get that all the time - Devin)
I started my car as a drag build, but have been reconsidering putting it on the street lately :gwink:. My rack is about 1.5" lower than stock, so I will likely be making some custom length tie rod spacers.

CKxx 12-13-12 08:45 PM

Sorry about that!

I'm sure it'll be too fun to resist taking it out for a ride at some point!

On a semi-related note, do you have links to any wiring diagrams you used to get everything hooked up, chassis side?

GSXRATED 12-13-12 09:07 PM

No worries man. It happens all the time. It will definitely come out onto the street for some fun :egrin:.
For the chassis side of the wiring, I used the body electric FSM:
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...wnload-449950/

YoshiFD3S 12-14-12 11:09 AM

:/ I guess I really am just gonna have to have some stuff custom-made for my setup, since I didn't use any retail "swap kit"...my subframe, etc. were all just custom-modified.

Oy vey.

yeep 12-15-12 11:56 AM

Anybody have the tech2 kit? Their motor mounts sag like crazy.

Justin1 12-16-12 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by yeep (Post 11317704)
Anybody have the tech2 kit? Their motor mounts sag like crazy.

I hope so, regarding to my high mounted engine:egrin:

CKxx 12-16-12 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by yeep (Post 11317704)
Anybody have the tech2 kit? Their motor mounts sag like crazy.

Time to buy some hockey pucks and a grade 8 bolt!

Seriously though, the mounts they use (Google: "1991 ford f150 engine mount") are a straight 3 inches or so, IIRC. They should be incredibly easy to replace with something harder/solid/delrin.

yeep 12-16-12 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by Justin1 (Post 11318269)
I hope so, regarding to my high mounted engine:egrin:

Not good, one of the brass elbows of the oil line ofthe steering rack starter to rub on the oil pan. Gonna have to file it down. :(

Justin1 09-02-13 01:44 AM

Woohooo, 1jz power



Not done yet...:)

Justin1 10-14-13 03:59 PM

I'm using the stock clutch mastercylinder with the toyota r154 slavecylinder. But my clutch won't "release" like it should. Any sugestions? I've tried to bleed the clutch line several times, and also bought a new slavecylinder. It still does't help. Have ordered a new mastercylinder from mazdatrix.
Do you guys think it would help with the new master?

Any others with the same problem?

YoshiFD3S 10-17-13 09:49 AM

Did you forget to install the clutch fork? :P


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