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Old 08-09-06, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy87t2
i think that if you have an fc, a big part of why the car is so cool is the rotary, going away from a rotary would defeat the purpos of the car, i say if you want a diferent engine, go to a 13bre.
We don't like cool cars in this section, we like cars that kick some serious ***! Rotary = Fail
Old 08-09-06, 08:26 PM
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LOL agreed
Old 08-09-06, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by digitalsolo
Wasn't it a wideblock only, non 4g63 that could bolt to the TII tranny? Then could be rebuilt to '63 like specs?

..sounds simple...
Yes the wide bolocks such as the motor in the starion(g54B) will bolt up to the T2 trans, but If I am thinking correctly there is a company that makes an adapter plate that bolts to the trans to make a 4g63 fit the g54b trans, so therefore you could put in a 4g63 in a 7, and a 13b in an eclipse
Old 08-10-06, 01:47 AM
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No, it's not that simple (putting a 13b into an Eclipse, that is!).

First of all, the 4g63 came in FWD and RWD configs. In the RWD config, there are wideblocks and narrow blocks. The engine that came in the Mighty Max pickup is a 4g64 (also came in wide and narrow). It's basically a stroked (and slightly bored) version of the 4g63 with 6mm extra deck height to compensate for the 100mm stroke. The late '80's B2600 bellhousing matches the wideblock bolt pattern exactly, and as the B2600 uses the TII R-tranny, it bolts up to the TII tranny. See? 4g63/64 wideblock -> B2600 bellhousing -> TII tranny. BOLTS RIGHT UP.

By the way, of all these engines, ONLY the 95-99 FWD (narrow 7-bolt) 4g63's are known to crankwalk. Thus, any engine you could possibly bolt up to a TII tranny will not be likely to walk. Oh, and I guess I should mention that I own one of those 7-bolts that is still running great, 20 psi daily and 10 years later.

If I sound like an ***, it's because I repeat this information on a regular basis, and yet almost no one seems to know or believe it, like it's something that I pulled out of my ***. www.projectzerog.com has PLENTY of information about the 4g63 wideblocks and RX7 tranny.

And like I said, it's a better motor than the SR20. The SR20 has a short deck, short rod length, and crappy R/S ratio. It's okay if you're keeping it a 2.0L but if you ever want to stroke it or run a higher R/S ratio, you're pretty much SOL. The 4g63 also has a really great quench pad design and will tolerate a LOT of detonation. Strong internals, too.
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so i see it doesn't just drop in and bolt up! that what i thought it needs some kind of adapte/different bellhousing. gotcha i will tell my boy see what he thinks!
Old 08-10-06, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by fcs rule
i will tell my boy see what he thinks!
Your son is building an RX7?
Old 08-10-06, 02:39 PM
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Def. gott keep it JDm y0.
Old 08-10-06, 02:42 PM
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Old 08-10-06, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by digitalsolo
Your son is building an RX7?
sorry move out the ghetto can't get the ghetto out. my boy as in my homie, my dog, my nugga, you know
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Originally Posted by fcs rule
so i see it doesn't just drop in and bolt up! that what i thought it needs some kind of adapte/different bellhousing. gotcha i will tell my boy see what he thinks!
I said it bolts up to the transmission. Sorry I didn't specify "bellhousing," but the fact remains that it's a factory part that can be found in a junkyard. You don't need special adapters or worry about what needs to be done, because the parts are all out there, in factory form. With the 6-bolt 4g63 and TII tranny, you'd simply use a Starion flywheel and clutch.

Like I said before, there's more info than even I know over at Project Zero-G. I only mentioned it because it seems to me to be a better option than the SR20, and it's at least worth looking into. It should be easier to accomplish and just as cheap, if not cheaper.
Old 08-13-06, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 88IntegraLS
We don't like cool cars in this section, we like cars that kick some serious ***! Rotary = Fail
+1.

And to the SR20 trash talker... How about I take my S13 with S14 SR20DET up against your Mitsu engine and see which one's better?
Old 08-13-06, 08:01 PM
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Hey if you like 4bangers with rockerarms domestics got ya covered there too...
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