Scion Rotary Conversion
09-24-06, 10:22 PM
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love the braaaap
Nihilanthic, why do you persist on saying that the thread starter is a troll? If he isn't, you are the biggest *** I've seen in a while and should be banned. You are WAY out of place saying he is a troll. So why don't you mind your own god damned business.
I agree with umlunchbox. The V8's most of you guys pick to put in a rotary are very inferior. Most are still cam in block and 2 valve per cylinder. Use something that at least has some sort of technology in it to replace a rotary.
I agree with umlunchbox. The V8's most of you guys pick to put in a rotary are very inferior. Most are still cam in block and 2 valve per cylinder. Use something that at least has some sort of technology in it to replace a rotary.
09-24-06, 10:44 PM
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Hemi?? 
wonder how much work would that be to drop into an rx7. eh **** it... ill just have to buy a car with the hemi in it already. ill stick with my weed wacking motor that puts out just under 160 to the crank
wonder how much work would that be to drop into an rx7. eh **** it... ill just have to buy a car with the hemi in it already. ill stick with my weed wacking motor that puts out just under 160 to the crank
09-24-06, 11:00 PM
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The point Nihil is missing is the fact that there are people out there that want to swap motor X into chassis Y just to be different.
I chose to swap a V8 into my car for performance, as it's a performance minded chassis.
The thread starter chose to put a rotary into a Scion just to make people do a double take. It's not a performance chassis and the rotary isn't a brute force performer - it's just a little different than the norm.
I'm all about swapping engines into cars where they don't belong no matter the results. I'm in the pre-pre-pre-pre-planning stages of building a turbine powered car. It's not going to be fast - just... different.
The moral of the story is, you need to chill the hell out when someone comes up with an idea involving a rotary and have an open mind.
I also feel you should stop hate-mongering against the rotary since:
#1. You don't own a rotary
#2. You don't own an RX-7
If you have no first hand experience with either #1 or #2 then you really have no basis for any of your arguments and should keep silent on the issue.
I chose to swap a V8 into my car for performance, as it's a performance minded chassis.
The thread starter chose to put a rotary into a Scion just to make people do a double take. It's not a performance chassis and the rotary isn't a brute force performer - it's just a little different than the norm.
I'm all about swapping engines into cars where they don't belong no matter the results. I'm in the pre-pre-pre-pre-planning stages of building a turbine powered car. It's not going to be fast - just... different.
The moral of the story is, you need to chill the hell out when someone comes up with an idea involving a rotary and have an open mind.
I also feel you should stop hate-mongering against the rotary since:
#1. You don't own a rotary
#2. You don't own an RX-7
If you have no first hand experience with either #1 or #2 then you really have no basis for any of your arguments and should keep silent on the issue.
09-25-06, 12:51 AM
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This "Other Engine Conversion" subforum is mostly for RX-7s with non-rotary engines.
You'd have better luck in the "Other Rotary" section which is for rotary powered cars that aren't RX-7s. https://www.rx7club.com/old-school-other-rotary-63/
Your best bet for this swap would be use an FWD setup. Here's some threads about FWD rotary cars:
https://www.rx7club.com/old-school-other-rotary-63/13b-powered-fwd-326477/
https://www.rx7club.com/old-school-other-rotary-63/fwd-rotary-92530/
https://www.rx7club.com/old-school-other-rotary-63/who-owner-transaxle-rotary-civic-481897/
https://www.rx7club.com/old-school-other-rotary-63/front-wheel-drive-rotary-256105/
You'd have better luck in the "Other Rotary" section which is for rotary powered cars that aren't RX-7s. https://www.rx7club.com/old-school-other-rotary-63/
Your best bet for this swap would be use an FWD setup. Here's some threads about FWD rotary cars:
https://www.rx7club.com/old-school-other-rotary-63/13b-powered-fwd-326477/
https://www.rx7club.com/old-school-other-rotary-63/fwd-rotary-92530/
https://www.rx7club.com/old-school-other-rotary-63/who-owner-transaxle-rotary-civic-481897/
https://www.rx7club.com/old-school-other-rotary-63/front-wheel-drive-rotary-256105/
09-25-06, 12:52 AM
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Why would you say the rotary's are unreliable ? Grant it, I'm not going for the radical porting jobs or anything and yes this is being done more for shock value than anything else, but my experiences with older 12a's and 13b's have been nothing short of spectacular. In fact, when turbo'd not only do they run hard, they also prove to be quite streetable.
And besides, swapping it out for the 1.5 the xB comes with is a definate improvement. Going with another toyota motor is much like you guys doing the v8 swaps, it to easy and will become common soon.
I have no problem with the mechanical side of this project or fabricating the parts, I have those connections, what I don't have is time. Therefore I am looking for a trusted rotary mechanic to both install the engine and tune it properly.
Ideally I was looking for a rep in here for a company that may make adapter plates or anything that would/could make my easier before I spent hours on autocad.
So while I appreciate most of your comments, there are a few in here that need an attitude check and be put in thier place. You should never insult strangers asking legitimate questions .. TOOL, you never who I really am or what I am capable of. For those of you that care, look for my xB in a couple of the tuner magazines in a couple of months.
It is being shot for features as soon as it leaves the body shop and hopefully with a ROTARY, so get your clown suit on, or should I say, your Sunday best ...
And besides, swapping it out for the 1.5 the xB comes with is a definate improvement. Going with another toyota motor is much like you guys doing the v8 swaps, it to easy and will become common soon.
I have no problem with the mechanical side of this project or fabricating the parts, I have those connections, what I don't have is time. Therefore I am looking for a trusted rotary mechanic to both install the engine and tune it properly.
Ideally I was looking for a rep in here for a company that may make adapter plates or anything that would/could make my easier before I spent hours on autocad.
So while I appreciate most of your comments, there are a few in here that need an attitude check and be put in thier place. You should never insult strangers asking legitimate questions .. TOOL, you never who I really am or what I am capable of. For those of you that care, look for my xB in a couple of the tuner magazines in a couple of months.
It is being shot for features as soon as it leaves the body shop and hopefully with a ROTARY, so get your clown suit on, or should I say, your Sunday best ...
09-25-06, 01:38 AM
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This would be quite the project. Would it be kept FWD or converted to RWD? That would be the biggest factor to decide. I figure it would actually be easier to convert to RWD as there is no transmission that would directly bolt up to a rotary, not even close.
09-25-06, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 85rotarypower
I agree with umlunchbox. The V8's most of you guys pick to put in a rotary are very inferior. Most are still cam in block and 2 valve per cylinder. Use something that at least has some sort of technology in it to replace a rotary.
09-25-06, 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by LT1-10AE
The point Nihil is missing is the fact that there are people out there that want to swap motor X into chassis Y just to be different.
I chose to swap a V8 into my car for performance, as it's a performance minded chassis.
The thread starter chose to put a rotary into a Scion just to make people do a double take. It's not a performance chassis and the rotary isn't a brute force performer - it's just a little different than the norm.
I'm all about swapping engines into cars where they don't belong no matter the results. I'm in the pre-pre-pre-pre-planning stages of building a turbine powered car. It's not going to be fast - just... different.
The moral of the story is, you need to chill the hell out when someone comes up with an idea involving a rotary and have an open mind.
I also feel you should stop hate-mongering against the rotary since:
#1. You don't own a rotary
#2. You don't own an RX-7
If you have no first hand experience with either #1 or #2 then you really have no basis for any of your arguments and should keep silent on the issue.
I chose to swap a V8 into my car for performance, as it's a performance minded chassis.
The thread starter chose to put a rotary into a Scion just to make people do a double take. It's not a performance chassis and the rotary isn't a brute force performer - it's just a little different than the norm.
I'm all about swapping engines into cars where they don't belong no matter the results. I'm in the pre-pre-pre-pre-planning stages of building a turbine powered car. It's not going to be fast - just... different.
The moral of the story is, you need to chill the hell out when someone comes up with an idea involving a rotary and have an open mind.
I also feel you should stop hate-mongering against the rotary since:
#1. You don't own a rotary
#2. You don't own an RX-7
If you have no first hand experience with either #1 or #2 then you really have no basis for any of your arguments and should keep silent on the issue.
I had no idea you could be taken for a fool like this but the jokes on you...
... unless you just want a chance to berate me, of course, in which case this is right up your ally.
Still, the chances of this being real and not a troll are pretty ******* remote. Especially considering his anti-v8 inflamatory comments in his subsequent posts instead of defending the idea for what it is... a "head turner", not some anti v8 comment.
Oh, and putting a "rotary in a piston car" but making a trollbait comment like "OMG PISTONS IN A ROTARY CAR".
Then again, you see what you want to see. So have fun getting mad and blowing up at me, Ill be sure to fire up my 'give a ****' sometime between now and later
09-25-06, 02:27 AM
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Nhil,
If this guy is a troll, you are feeding him.
If this guy is for real, you are being a total ********.
Can't we all just get a life?
To the original poster, go for it! Sounds like a cool show car concept and the NA rotary can be a lot of fun.
If this guy is a troll, you are feeding him.
If this guy is for real, you are being a total ********.
Can't we all just get a life?
To the original poster, go for it! Sounds like a cool show car concept and the NA rotary can be a lot of fun.
09-25-06, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Nihilanthic
Amazing.
I had no idea you could be taken for a fool like this but the jokes on you...
... unless you just want a chance to berate me, of course, in which case this is right up your ally.
Still, the chances of this being real and not a troll are pretty ******* remote. Especially considering his anti-v8 inflamatory comments in his subsequent posts instead of defending the idea for what it is... a "head turner", not some anti v8 comment.
Oh, and putting a "rotary in a piston car" but making a trollbait comment like "OMG PISTONS IN A ROTARY CAR".
Then again, you see what you want to see. So have fun getting mad and blowing up at me, Ill be sure to fire up my 'give a ****' sometime between now and later
I had no idea you could be taken for a fool like this but the jokes on you...
... unless you just want a chance to berate me, of course, in which case this is right up your ally.
Still, the chances of this being real and not a troll are pretty ******* remote. Especially considering his anti-v8 inflamatory comments in his subsequent posts instead of defending the idea for what it is... a "head turner", not some anti v8 comment.
Oh, and putting a "rotary in a piston car" but making a trollbait comment like "OMG PISTONS IN A ROTARY CAR".
Then again, you see what you want to see. So have fun getting mad and blowing up at me, Ill be sure to fire up my 'give a ****' sometime between now and later
^ i dont even know you and your a dick. Dont you have anything better to do, like beat off to gay ****? This is a project id like to see, GOD FORBID A ROTARY IN AN xB, jesus christ.
to original poster, i hope you get some decent support/ answers, and props for thinking outside the box (no pun intended
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09-25-06, 02:34 AM
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If hes for real, Ill buy him a beer. A good one, too!
The utterly illogical premise and his subsequent posts really indicated "TROLL" to me, and I suspect its someone from http://zip.4chan.org/o/imgboard.html <- THERE ******* with me, if not a certain person named "Ryan" laughing his *** off. AHEM. I half expect someone to post a screencap of someone from a SCION commercial going "BOOST CONTROL AND TURBO TIMER: AAAAAAUUUUUUWWWWWWWWWWW" right now, TBH.
If Im just really hypervigilant here and being a dick, then so be it, Ill be a man about it and PERSONALLY apologize if sunrise is anywhere near Jacksonville.
Still, considering the "dead horse" nature of all of this, a lot of his comments just reek of being inflamatory, or the remote chance hes just ignorant of the facts everyone here with the ability to use the
found out years ago and has v8 stereotypes in his head, yet somehow has the technical skill and understanding to undertake a project like this.
Im siding with the former becuase of occams razor. The old addage "if you have to ask, you can't do it" really just comes to mind here! Its just too ******* absurd!
The utterly illogical premise and his subsequent posts really indicated "TROLL" to me, and I suspect its someone from http://zip.4chan.org/o/imgboard.html <- THERE ******* with me, if not a certain person named "Ryan" laughing his *** off. AHEM. I half expect someone to post a screencap of someone from a SCION commercial going "BOOST CONTROL AND TURBO TIMER: AAAAAAUUUUUUWWWWWWWWWWW" right now, TBH.
If Im just really hypervigilant here and being a dick, then so be it, Ill be a man about it and PERSONALLY apologize if sunrise is anywhere near Jacksonville.
Still, considering the "dead horse" nature of all of this, a lot of his comments just reek of being inflamatory, or the remote chance hes just ignorant of the facts everyone here with the ability to use the
found out years ago and has v8 stereotypes in his head, yet somehow has the technical skill and understanding to undertake a project like this.Im siding with the former becuase of occams razor. The old addage "if you have to ask, you can't do it" really just comes to mind here! Its just too ******* absurd!
09-25-06, 07:50 AM
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"If you have to ask, you can't do it" is not an old adage. Matter of fact, it's pretty damn new to me. I think you're confusing it with, "If you have to ask, you can't AFFORD it."
If your adage is correct, then I'm up the creek when it comes to doing a turbine project, because frankly, I don't know a hell of a lot about them. I figured I'd learn about them the normal way by asking questions.
Here's another adage for you: There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers.
Damn, for a free LS7 delivered by a clown (no suit needed), I'd help the guy stuff the rotary in there myself!
If your adage is correct, then I'm up the creek when it comes to doing a turbine project, because frankly, I don't know a hell of a lot about them. I figured I'd learn about them the normal way by asking questions.
Here's another adage for you: There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers.
Damn, for a free LS7 delivered by a clown (no suit needed), I'd help the guy stuff the rotary in there myself!
09-25-06, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Nihilanthic
If hes for real, Ill buy him a beer. A good one, too!
The utterly illogical premise and his subsequent posts really indicated "TROLL" to me, and I suspect its someone from http://zip.4chan.org/o/imgboard.html <- THERE ******* with me, if not a certain person named "Ryan" laughing his *** off. AHEM. I half expect someone to post a screencap of someone from a SCION commercial going "BOOST CONTROL AND TURBO TIMER: AAAAAAUUUUUUWWWWWWWWWWW" right now, TBH.
If Im just really hypervigilant here and being a dick, then so be it, Ill be a man about it and PERSONALLY apologize if sunrise is anywhere near Jacksonville.
Still, considering the "dead horse" nature of all of this, a lot of his comments just reek of being inflamatory, or the remote chance hes just ignorant of the facts everyone here with the ability to use the found out years ago and has v8 stereotypes in his head, yet somehow has the technical skill and understanding to undertake a project like this.
Im siding with the former becuase of occams razor. The old addage "if you have to ask, you can't do it" really just comes to mind here! Its just too ******* absurd!
The utterly illogical premise and his subsequent posts really indicated "TROLL" to me, and I suspect its someone from http://zip.4chan.org/o/imgboard.html <- THERE ******* with me, if not a certain person named "Ryan" laughing his *** off. AHEM. I half expect someone to post a screencap of someone from a SCION commercial going "BOOST CONTROL AND TURBO TIMER: AAAAAAUUUUUUWWWWWWWWWWW" right now, TBH.
If Im just really hypervigilant here and being a dick, then so be it, Ill be a man about it and PERSONALLY apologize if sunrise is anywhere near Jacksonville.
Still, considering the "dead horse" nature of all of this, a lot of his comments just reek of being inflamatory, or the remote chance hes just ignorant of the facts everyone here with the ability to use the
found out years ago and has v8 stereotypes in his head, yet somehow has the technical skill and understanding to undertake a project like this.Im siding with the former becuase of occams razor. The old addage "if you have to ask, you can't do it" really just comes to mind here! Its just too ******* absurd!
09-25-06, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by LT1-10AE
"If you have to ask, you can't do it" is not an old adage. Matter of fact, it's pretty damn new to me. I think you're confusing it with, "If you have to ask, you can't AFFORD it."
If your adage is correct, then I'm up the creek when it comes to doing a turbine project, because frankly, I don't know a hell of a lot about them. I figured I'd learn about them the normal way by asking questions.
Here's another adage for you: There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers.
Damn, for a free LS7 delivered by a clown (no suit needed), I'd help the guy stuff the rotary in there myself!
If your adage is correct, then I'm up the creek when it comes to doing a turbine project, because frankly, I don't know a hell of a lot about them. I figured I'd learn about them the normal way by asking questions.
Here's another adage for you: There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers.
Damn, for a free LS7 delivered by a clown (no suit needed), I'd help the guy stuff the rotary in there myself!
This is going to involve custom fabrication, and not just to get a transaxle to bolt up to the engine - he'll prolly need custom CV shafts, assuming he uses the stock xB suspension, and to get it to put any amount of power down... well, hello, even MORE modifications.
Or he might just swap in a entire front subframe that has the right dimensions hub to hub, or god knows what. This isnt going to be easy to just get working with a stock NA rotary, far less if he puts any amount of power down, unless its just a dynoqueen or cheesy burnout machine, granted his parts can take the power in the first place.
If he goes longitudinal, well, thats relatively easy.
This is either a case of throwing money on the part of someone with it to burn (and in that case, you're right) or someone doing it himself who shouldn't have to ask. And no, I really dont care about it from the performance perspective, this is quite literally a 'different' or 'head turner', not something with any amount of practicality, so I dont know why anyone even brought that dimension up in the first place, becuase I didn't either!
My whole point is this just REEKED of trolling, but you're so convinced Im looking for a fight or a v8 vs rotary arguement you didnt even see what I said, even as clear as I said it, so whatever.
But yeah, as I said before, if this turns out to be real, I will be VERY impressed, and sincerely apologetic - to him! You can just kiss my ***.
09-25-06, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by XxMerlinxX
So if you think it's someone ******* with you, just leave it alone. We're all grown up adults here, we don't need you trying to save us from "trolls". I hope this guy pulls through with it, even if I don't like the car too much. Some renewed interest in the rotary is always a good thing.
People who like to troll for SnG's know I post here, and I strongly suspect this is one of them! Otherwise Id be extremely ambivilant about this and probably have just lurked.
Jesus... you'd think people would read my posts before posting.
09-25-06, 05:45 PM
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i have seen pictures of a 13b in a mazda 323 tha had a FWD layout ....it was at a show or something ...looked pretty neat , it can be done ,just a matter of patience and money ,
and NIHILANTHIC , dude youre beeing a complete *** , leave the guy alone , youre not even shure if he`s a troll , so why be such an *** if you dont have any facts , personally i think it would be a cool project , altough i am not that much into carburators , but hey ,to each his own , DO it man , i`de like to see that
and NIHILANTHIC , dude youre beeing a complete *** , leave the guy alone , youre not even shure if he`s a troll , so why be such an *** if you dont have any facts , personally i think it would be a cool project , altough i am not that much into carburators , but hey ,to each his own , DO it man , i`de like to see that
09-25-06, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 85rotarypower
I agree with umlunchbox. The V8's most of you guys pick to put in a rotary are very inferior. Most are still cam in block and 2 valve per cylinder. Use something that at least has some sort of technology in it to replace a rotary.
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To the original poster, I think you should consider fuel injection. And for the power levels that your looking for the rotary engine will be perfectly reliable. It would be lucky to last 2/3s as long as the toyota engine, but it would reliable none the less.
It must be cool to be in a state that lets you get away with this.
It must be cool to be in a state that lets you get away with this.
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Let me set a couple of rumors and statements to rest here, because it looks like some of you are actually paying attention.
First, I know none of you guys in here ... I have no reason to poke fun at the ignorant.
-Sunrise, is no where near Jacksonville, Jacksonville is North Florida, Sunrise is South Florida, best call it Ft. Lauderdale for those of you who need general directions
-Here is the link to the photobucket photos of this project. http://s83.photobucket.com/albums/j295/projectbox/
Alot of money is being dumped into this show car, it is primarily for the shock value, because once all the equipment and the interior is actually assembled in this xB, any kind of street racing will be stupid, its just to heavy.
The correct saying IMO is ... There is no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid people.
-What the hell is a TROLL ? I'm thinking D&D and a 40 year old virgin with nothing better to do. Explain ..
Now I am a member of many other boards including scion boards, and I often bounce ideas off them to gain alternate perspectives on topics. Believe me when I say I am more than capable to pull this off alone, but again, time usually works against me.
So for those of you who are interested in this project there are some pics, the xB will be in Atlanta on 10/28 for Scion Exposed a giant Scion show. Chances are the engine swap will not commence until the new year, because of my show schedule and sponsor obligations.
In conclusion, while many of you seem sincerely interested in this project, All I have gotten from throwing out a legitimate question is a lot of **** from a select few annoying individuals. It's a shame, these forums use to be a great place to actually learn something, now they are nothing more than soapboxes. GL to you all, anyone who is interested in the project save that link or email me and we will stay in touch.
Laterz
First, I know none of you guys in here ... I have no reason to poke fun at the ignorant.
-Sunrise, is no where near Jacksonville, Jacksonville is North Florida, Sunrise is South Florida, best call it Ft. Lauderdale for those of you who need general directions
-Here is the link to the photobucket photos of this project. http://s83.photobucket.com/albums/j295/projectbox/
Alot of money is being dumped into this show car, it is primarily for the shock value, because once all the equipment and the interior is actually assembled in this xB, any kind of street racing will be stupid, its just to heavy.
The correct saying IMO is ... There is no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid people.
-What the hell is a TROLL ? I'm thinking D&D and a 40 year old virgin with nothing better to do. Explain ..
Now I am a member of many other boards including scion boards, and I often bounce ideas off them to gain alternate perspectives on topics. Believe me when I say I am more than capable to pull this off alone, but again, time usually works against me.
So for those of you who are interested in this project there are some pics, the xB will be in Atlanta on 10/28 for Scion Exposed a giant Scion show. Chances are the engine swap will not commence until the new year, because of my show schedule and sponsor obligations.
In conclusion, while many of you seem sincerely interested in this project, All I have gotten from throwing out a legitimate question is a lot of **** from a select few annoying individuals. It's a shame, these forums use to be a great place to actually learn something, now they are nothing more than soapboxes. GL to you all, anyone who is interested in the project save that link or email me and we will stay in touch.
Laterz
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A troll is someone who says **** on a forum to **** people off or start a long arguement.
As I said like 5 times I had a reason to think it was some twits who do this for fun all the time trying to stir up **** here, mostly becuase your postcount was so low and I didnt have any proof this was more than a pipedream that was going to stir **** up, mostly because it was posted here and not 'other rotary' which is the de facto rotary into piston swap forum, while this is the de factor piston into rotary forum.
Nothing personal against you, cos honestly I thought you were someone trying to get a rise out of me I knew otherwise becuase they cant troll me on 4chan.org anymore.
Though now that at least we know you got a 'lunchbox' to start modding...
If you're serious about this then going carb or efi would be probably one of the easiest things to do. Since you're in FL and the weather hardly changes (and the only pressure drop you get is from hurricanes) a carb would prolly work fine, but just for streetability and BLING BLIIING a megasquirt or other EFI would be great. Then again the kind of money you'll be putting in you could get one of the more expensive ones.
The one thing Im wondering is how the hell a xB suspension could actually handle any degree of power or torque and if you wanna go with just a entire transaxle/subframe assembly or modify stubshafts with a new transaxle and use the existing suspension. If its just off of toyota's parts bin it might be alright, but if its specific to the commuter chassis then you might have all kinds of crazy **** going on. Are you going for burnouts and just dropping jaws or punking the occasional guy at a stoplight?
Theres also the option of just dropping in a shortened rear axle, going longitudinal and getting a baby 4link or leaf springs back there, but a xB doing wheelies might be dangerous.
As I said like 5 times I had a reason to think it was some twits who do this for fun all the time trying to stir up **** here, mostly becuase your postcount was so low and I didnt have any proof this was more than a pipedream that was going to stir **** up, mostly because it was posted here and not 'other rotary' which is the de facto rotary into piston swap forum, while this is the de factor piston into rotary forum.
Nothing personal against you, cos honestly I thought you were someone trying to get a rise out of me I knew otherwise becuase they cant troll me on 4chan.org anymore.
Though now that at least we know you got a 'lunchbox' to start modding...
If you're serious about this then going carb or efi would be probably one of the easiest things to do. Since you're in FL and the weather hardly changes (and the only pressure drop you get is from hurricanes) a carb would prolly work fine, but just for streetability and BLING BLIIING a megasquirt or other EFI would be great. Then again the kind of money you'll be putting in you could get one of the more expensive ones.
The one thing Im wondering is how the hell a xB suspension could actually handle any degree of power or torque and if you wanna go with just a entire transaxle/subframe assembly or modify stubshafts with a new transaxle and use the existing suspension. If its just off of toyota's parts bin it might be alright, but if its specific to the commuter chassis then you might have all kinds of crazy **** going on. Are you going for burnouts and just dropping jaws or punking the occasional guy at a stoplight?
Theres also the option of just dropping in a shortened rear axle, going longitudinal and getting a baby 4link or leaf springs back there, but a xB doing wheelies might be dangerous.
09-26-06, 03:22 PM
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Well thanks for the attitude change ... I am looking for additional input .. my knowledge on rotaries is about 10 years old. Here is what I know.
-I can get the tranny shaft made to fit the rotary engine using the toyota xB tranny and axles.
-I can fabricate the adapter plate and motor mounts for the motor.
-I have been told that the original Scion axles can handle up to 180 hp
-I do not plan on getting anywhere near that crazy.
-This conversion is purely for car show shock value, if you get a chance to see the pics, you'll notice that this interior is completely made of heavy fiberglass, add to that the weight of the refrigerated Keg system and I am going to need an V8 swap just to keep up with traffic.
This particular B is a trailer queen with limited road use. Once I have the conversion perfected, I have a second one that will be built for speed, still FWD though, do not want to be accused of taking the easy way out with these boxes.
So any other suggestions would be appreciated .. especially the info in the toyo tranny that is a match to the rotary.
Laterz ..
-I can get the tranny shaft made to fit the rotary engine using the toyota xB tranny and axles.
-I can fabricate the adapter plate and motor mounts for the motor.
-I have been told that the original Scion axles can handle up to 180 hp
-I do not plan on getting anywhere near that crazy.
-This conversion is purely for car show shock value, if you get a chance to see the pics, you'll notice that this interior is completely made of heavy fiberglass, add to that the weight of the refrigerated Keg system and I am going to need an V8 swap just to keep up with traffic.
This particular B is a trailer queen with limited road use. Once I have the conversion perfected, I have a second one that will be built for speed, still FWD though, do not want to be accused of taking the easy way out with these boxes.
So any other suggestions would be appreciated .. especially the info in the toyo tranny that is a match to the rotary.
Laterz ..
09-26-06, 03:25 PM
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nihilanthic would fit in at the playa hata's ball, "i hate you and you, i dont even know you and i hate your guts, i hope all the bad things in life happen to you and nobody else, but you!"
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