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Old 03-03-04, 01:20 AM
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Originally posted by Simplecat
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Wrong answer.

The record for a stock motor is 980 at the rear wheels. That is stock rods, pistons, crank, head, everything. Upgraded turbo system, fuel, and standalone ECU. That guy's name is peter and he runs the big Supra meet down in texas. I'm not just visiting over here to flame occasionally, I like rx7's too, its just annoying when people just spout random bullshit. There is alot of dis-information on this thread.

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Actually the record holders name is Mike Carlin. 980RWHP and 746ft-lbs Torque at 36psi out of an SP77 turbo. He has a stock bottom end and he has HKS 264in/272ex cams in a ported head...

Mike's engine mods...

Engine:
SP77 S-Trim Turbo with .81 A/R – Polished
Stock Block
ADFX Ported Head with Ferrea 1mm Oversized Valves
ADFX Radius Valve Job
Crower Valve Springs & Retainers
ARP Cylinder Head Studs
Accufab 90mm Throttle Body
HKS Header (Jet Hot Coated)
HKS GT Wastegate
HKS Racing BOV Type II
HKS Twin Power Type DLI Ignition Amplifier
HKS Ti Exhaust
HKS 264 Intake Camshaft
HKS 272 Exhaust Camshaft
ADFX Racing FMIC - Polished
ADFX Ported Intake Manifold - Polished
ADFX 3.5" Downpipe
ADFX Race Aluminum Radiator – Polished
ADFX 3” Intake pipe with K&N Filter – Polished
ADFX Battery Box Mounted in Trunk
ADFX Coolant Overflow Tank - Polished
ADFX Radiator Cover - Polished
ADFX Polished Oil Catch Can
ADFX Oil Filter Relocation
ADFX Painted Spark Plug Cover
ADFX Polished Exhaust Housing Shield
NGK 3330 Plugs
Unorthodox Racing Lightened Underdrive Pulley Set
Unorthodox Racing Polished Cam gears
B&M Oil Cooler
Power Steering Cooler
Power Steering Relocation Kit
Relocated Optima Battery to Trunk
TRD Oil Filler Cap
SPAL Electric Fan
Polished Valve Covers
NOS – 100 Dry Shot

By Peter, I'm assuming you mean Peter Blach, who also has a ported head with oversize valves, Ti springs and retainers and HKS cams with a 272 grind on a stock bottom end. He is making 958RWHP out of an SP74

Here is Peter's engine mod list...
Engine:
SP74 Single Turbo (Latest Generation as of May 2003)
RPS “1000 hp” exhaust manifold
4 inch full length downpipe-midpipe
HKS GT series wastegate
Greddy 3-row FMIC
Jet Hot 2000 coating on header, turbo, downpipe
Ported/Polished cylinder head modification (300 cfm at 385 lift)
EGR block off plates
HKS racing bov
HKS titanium exhaust
HKS 272 camshafts
K&N intake
One mm oversized Ferrea stainless steel valves
Crower titanium springs
Crower titanium retainers
Powerhouse front radiator panel
Unorthodox Racing cam gears
Greddy polished oil catch can
NX Wet Kit
Old 03-03-04, 01:26 AM
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To see some more INSANE Supra head over to T04R.com.

Here is a direct link to Peter's car..
Peter Blach's 1998 6-Speed

Here is link to Mike's car..
Mike Carlin's 1998 Silver 3-speed auto
Old 03-09-04, 10:49 AM
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I always thought that the rb26 had problems with breaking rods @ the 600-700hp level... but that was the only issue i heard about those engines..
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Originally posted by Flipn
I always thought that the rb26 had problems with breaking rods @ the 600-700hp level... but that was the only issue i heard about those engines..
I know rb25s making that power and are having no problems.
Old 03-15-04, 01:08 AM
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I am super jealous...I really would love to (after throwing a 3-rotor in my current 7) one day get another 7 and throw in the RB26dett, or I could just buy one I guess...would probably end up costing about the same...LOL
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When I say buying one, I mean a Skyline...sorry, I did not specify.
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PS, he's kinda right about the clutch thing, but you also have to think about the fact that if you're making 1400hp out of 2.6 liters (or even 2.8 liters if you have a stroker kit) You are going to have turbo lag clearly north of 6k rpms, that should be relatively easy to keep ahold of in traffic, however since signal auto's fastest GTR only has around 1200hp, I really don't think there's alot of car's with that much power, I'm guessing less than 10 in all of japan. Also if I'm not mistaken, the most powerful GTR on the planet is down in Austrailia, and just the shortblock costs 50 grand, no turbos, no fuel, no tranny, no anything. www.exvitermini.com IMHO one of the sickest cars on the planet. More than 1350hp, 13,000 rpm redline, doesn't use wastegates to control boost, it uses rpms. Sick. [/B]
Just an offhand tidbit, OS Giken makes a 3.0 liter kit, we're talking new block and everything, for the RB, supposedly good to 11,000 rpm too. Ah I even found it:
http://www.osgiken.co.jp/pro_spec/rb30kit.html
Only a mere 1.4 million yen...I think thats in the 12,000 dollar neighborhood if i remember my Yen to USD.
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Another factor would be regarding weight.... if you take a look at some 2JZ swaps, which i suspect would be roughly the size of an RB26DETT, look how much is in front of the front wheels, that could lead to hideous handling

still... if your dragging, go for it, any RB is a badass motor, and an RB20 would be a big less compromise as far as size and handling goes.
Old 03-30-04, 02:08 AM
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well no doubt to fit the I6's in there you need to make custom engine/transmission mounts anyway, so you can set them back a bit more in the car to help offset the weight.
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hi guys i am the answer use are all looking for i have a rx7 series 2 with a rb30detRb26dett Swap-s3000489.jpg
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Old 02-28-09, 04:19 AM
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NICE! Only took 5 years to get an answer Definitely one "SIC RX7" Post more pics as your project progesses
Old 02-28-09, 09:01 AM
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you have seen my build thread, right? i have a rb25 fd
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Originally Posted by Flipn
I always thought that the rb26 had problems with breaking rods @ the 600-700hp level... but that was the only issue i heard about those engines..
The 26 rods are good for up to that much if prepped and done right.

The stock pistons are good for about 550-600 (Non N1 Block Pistons). Any more than that, and you want to upgrade to forged. It will probably hold up for some garage queen or occasional weekend car. Drive or beat on it, and those stock pistons will take a **** real soon.

At that power level, the RB will puke out it's oil pump, that's for sure. The oiling system on the RB sucks.

AXMDR787BOY: I have been to japan a few times, and well in the car community there too. 1400 hp daily driven skylines do not exist. In fact the 2jz-gte is 100x the bombproof motor the RB26 is. Just a fact. Top secret does wierd swaps, not because it's better, but because they can. The RB has higher revs and a more unique sound than the 2jz, but top secret does not have a limit as to what they spend on their builds.

How many 6 second 2jz powered cars exist: A few.

How many 6 second RBs exist: 0 (for now)

I know this: RBs take DEEP pockets to do right.
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Originally Posted by xlawcock
NICE! Only took 5 years to get an answer Definitely one "SIC RX7" Post more pics as your project progesses
hi if you want more pics visit this url http://www.ausrotary.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=166803
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so if i had a rb25 and tranny how would i go about puttin it into my rx7 local shop z1motorsports said it would be a pain to get in cause hav to custom make the mounts or something. idk if i have the motor and tranny what else would i need to make this swap work? or a 2jz. kinda tired of messin with the roterys no one over here knows what they are doing so hell with it

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Old 08-19-09, 03:00 AM
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The stuff people argue about on the internet.......


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rb25 swap

Originally Posted by pitbull287
so if i had a rb25 and tranny how would i go about puttin it into my rx7 local shop z1motorsports said it would be a pain to get in cause hav to custom make the mounts or something. idk if i have the motor and tranny what else would i need to make this swap work? or a 2jz. kinda tired of messin with the roterys no one over here knows what they are doing so hell with it
no all you have to do is use the standard rb25 engine mounts and cut a 12cm by 12cm 10mm thick plate and use it as a adapter plate for the exhaust side engine mount to crossmember but the gearbox mount bracket has to be completely made from scratch and the tailshaft has to be modded oh and you have to cut the bonnet and move the radiator.
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Originally Posted by pitbull287
so if i had a rb25 and tranny how would i go about puttin it into my rx7 local shop z1motorsports said it would be a pain to get in cause hav to custom make the mounts or something. idk if i have the motor and tranny what else would i need to make this swap work? or a 2jz. kinda tired of messin with the roterys no one over here knows what they are doing so hell with it
An LS1 and a t56is a much easier and cheaper route. For some reason that is much more controversial here even though it makes more reliable hp, better gas mileage and retains the 50/50 weight distribution.

If you have the money and really want something unique go for the rb
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damn am going to do the swap of the rb25det in my fc
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Originally Posted by Miata_mx5

AXMDR787BOY: I have been to japan a few times, and well in the car community there too. 1400 hp daily driven skylines do not exist. In fact the 2jz-gte is 100x the bombproof motor the RB26 is. Just a fact. Top secret does wierd swaps, not because it's better, but because they can. The RB has higher revs and a more unique sound than the 2jz, but top secret does not have a limit as to what they spend on their builds.
I have a mag with that rb26 supra in it and they said the reason for the swap was that a hard tuned 2jz will love to destroy gearboxes, diffs and tires. The rb26 doesn't produce as big a whack of mid range torque and therefore is a bit nicer on drive trains.
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I know there isnt as many RB26s in the USA, but there are thousands of highly tuned ones here, and though they can do the power, they are far from bulletproof.

Rotating iternals rarely fail, due to GrpA Homologation rules the standard rods, pistons, inlet, manifolds etc etc had to be used on the race car, so it has some great pieces.

BUT people here, despite so many producing amazing power and times over here, seem to have constant engine troubles, though I think most are oiling issues- Just fitting decent bearings, decent oil pump, and head oil restrictors is far from enough.

Id feel far less worried about my engine blowing if I had a JZ under the bonnet to be fair.
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I know this may be a little off, but go pick up the 4/10 issue of Super Street.... RB26 in an FD.

Fxckin Siiiiiiiick setup... Nearly 900 ponies.

The big question, though: 2J or RB in an FD shell?

1000hp Supras aren't anything odd (Hell, look at 'Titan Motorsports,' in Orlando FL. That's what they're known for), and the RB rocks just over 600 before popping the head open... While both are formidable swaps, My money is on one or the other...

The JZ has the ***, while the RB has the class.
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Sorry for reviving this thread from the dead but after reading this thread, I'm seriously wondering whether to do a RB26 swap with the 25 tranny for RWD or do a 20B swap. I guess it all comes down to cost. Which is less expensive?

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Both engines are in the same price range. I would assume the final costs would be similar.
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Reliability wise though, it does make more sense to go with the RB, correct?


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