Kingsoup

Found this in search. I've owned 3 supras and currently have a 280rwhp Mk3.

I think its really cool! 7mGTE's can be had for dirt cheap, and are quite powerful. Assuming you take care of it, make sure its got lots of oil, and a nice flat head with a MHG and good torque shoudl last long time.

Nice to see a GTE in a lightweight car like the FC, I can't see it adding more then 200lbs really. I've had a LOT of problems with my 7MGTE though, they are kinda like 13B's, you have to take good care of them.

They can withstand solid detonation, but like their solid oil pressure and cooling.

Can't wait to see some finished pics and maybe a movie!

Cory Simpson

Well that's nice... I don't give a **** what you have to say about it either.....


So out of love for the fello vert owner, I'm gonna be nice, and just ask you to keep you rude remarks to your self.....

onepointone

whats the status of your car man?

RETed

Ran out of money
Ran out of time
Ran out of patience

Pick one.


-Ted

Cory Simpson

There you go.


It's sitting in the gaurage, and it's got a 1G-GTE sitting in it (never going to run in it though, just acting like a big engine stand )

Thaniel

It's a shame you never got it running. I think you would have enjoyed it I got my nissan v-6 swap into a FC running and it's been loads of fun.

Cory Simpson

Ahhhh, 3rd gens are better

Cool_ManX

nice

MARTIN

1g sucks.. I saw that **** at 15lbs and the guy got like 202hp.

CompuBob

holy year ago batman!

Cool_ManX

I Need That Pics....

AXMDR787BOY

Fat chance. Project was dropped over a year ago.

Cool_ManX

mmmmm why? i will mount one 2jz. in a FC

Nihilanthic

FCs have giant engine bays, you could probably put in a Viper's V10.

I mean god Ive seen those wide *** modular ford DOHC v8s fit in there (the pushrod v8s are relatively small... and a bit lighter too) so the FC has no problem accepting virtually any engine. Oh, and because theyre all behind the front wheels, fat chance at ever making it signifigantly nose heavy :P

It could definitely be a viable swap, but if you want a lot of support and a community base behind it, an american v8 (hate on me all you want, you know Im right about this) and a trip to http://www.torquecentral.com/forumdisplay.php?f=11 would set you straight.

They could probably help with some of the mechanical aspects of the swaps, but the turbo 6s that everyone is familiar with is a 3800 v6 from a buick. Ive also heard someone is going with a supercharged v6 ala the Grand Prix, and those have tons of potential as well.

Cory Simpson

The project is DEAD, car has been hauled off for scrap, and all that remains are a driveshaft, and a set of motor mounts that are thrown over in a corner.....


If anyone seriously does want pictures, or is interested in buying the driveshaft/mounts, my E-mail is: astronaut_in_training@hotmail.com

RETed

Gotta give him credit...it took almost a year for this to end...


-Ted

Thaniel

the engine bay is not that big. The hood slopes very quickly and any engine with much height hits the bottom of the hood. Lots of conversions cut the hood and put on a scoop.

I put a Nissan V-6 in a FC but it required re working the subframe and firewall to get it in there without cutting a hole in the hood. Yah the motor is far back though.

Even this 7mgte swap modified the firewall.

Nihilanthic

Really? didnt think they were that tall. Guess you gotta pay to play with DOHC (with engine height anyway)

As far as a VG30DETT, I thought it depends on if its from a Transerse or lateral setup, with the intake and such. But well, I dunno exactly how it works, Im not going with it.

It does kind of make me glad that v8 swaps tend to go off without much of an issue except hood/steering rack clearance

MARTIN

if you are gunna swap a motor into a 7. Make sure the motor you are swapping in isnt a POS. The vg motors sucks dick, which is why people stick 2j's and rb's in the 300's.

Nihilanthic

VGs suck dick how, exactly?
I saw an aritcle on a buildup on one. Had a seriously stout low end, including a girdle STOCK, and everything else was also very beefy. Its also a shorter motor than a 2Jz, and has more displacement than most RBs seem to have, 2.6 liters - which is the same as the 13B, volumetrically speaking anyway.

Im going with a v8 anyway, but I was curious about it becasue easy turbo power is never something to scoff at it. Turbo 3.8s are also not unheard of... and can make some batshit insane power. The only catch is you more or less need a longer rear gear and that necessitates a C4 or Cobra pumpkin swap.

Cool_ManX

thanks i will send you mail.... for the pics..

AXMDR787BOY

First of all the VG ISN'T a POS. RB swaps in Z32s are about as common as a 2JZ in a 67 Mustang. The VG is a stout motor. The only thing that sucks about it the engine bay it came it. Too small to do anything major.

Second of all, you know what happens when you assume. He has a VQ30DE and a the Z33 six speed trans. Dumbass.

Nihilanthic- Could you stop with the bench racer 13B is really 2.6 liters? This has been gone over countless times for years..

Cool_ManX

im waiting for the pics

Nihilanthic

Sorry to be a dick here, but its not bench racing, its more like how you treat it when you tune a ECU for it, or pick a turbo while looking at a map. Thats more like homework before the race

It sucks, squishes, bangs, and blows, JUST like a 2.6. It gives off a tach signal just like a I4. It makes exhaust gas flow just like a 2.6. It burns gas just like a really rich running 2.6 Geometrically it fires off once every 180° of crank (eshaft) revolution - that 3:1 ratio people bring into play really doesnt matter, btw - JUST LIKE A I4!

The 13b fires a 650cc (half of 1.3L) charge every 180 degrees. The "rate" by which every piston engine (and thus ALL THE MATH) goes by is 720°. .65 * 4 = 2.6, ok? Sheesh. You can pat yourself on the back as much as you want getting off on the SMALL DISPLACEMENT AND HIGH SPECIFIC OUTPUT IRREGARDLESS OF THE BMEP!!11one thing until Jimlab finishes his v8, but the way it sucks, ignites, burns, and exhausts, is just like a 2.6 I4 that is realllly oversquare when you factor in the heat inefficiency. When you look at all of the math, it makes power and torque at the same rate in the same way as a I4 2.6 Its only a 1.3 if you go by only 360° - and if you do, then you either have to double it to compare it sensibly to piston engines, or measure every other one by 360°, effectively halving their displacements.

Its all part of the whole "apples to apples" thing.

AXMDR787BOY

I call you a bench racer because you are. You have ZERO first hand with any of these engines and yet act as though you do. I could care less if you call it a 1.3, 2.6, or any other number for that matter. Displacement means nothing in the real world. Only output matters. It doesn't matter how it gets there.

Mazda calls it a 1.3. Each rotor gives a power stroke per revolution; therefore, it is the same as a two stroke. Hence the 1.3 liters. Effectively all of the engine's capacity is being used for every rotation of the output shaft (as for a two stroke). The actual volume of air is twice that of a four stroke.

I all depends on how you measure it. Mazda measures the engine as a two stroke. As a two stroke engine IT IS 1.3liters. It has as much more in common with a two stroke than it does a four stroke. Oil is injected into the cumbustion chamber just as it is in a two stroke. If you measure it by it's power pulses and air intake. it would be close to a 2.6 liter I4. Does this make the 13B 2.6 liters? No. The 13B has a cumbustion chamber volume of 650cc per rotor. That is it. It doesn't matter how much air it uses, it's actual volume is the same. That means you are measureing it based on it's volumetric effciency? So would a PP motor be closer to 3.0 liters? They have a VE typically close to 100%

It may "ACT" like a high displacement I4, that doesn't mean it is one. There are similarites, but they are not the same. I'm not getting "high" on the low displacement thing. I meant what I said. This **** has been argued FOR YEARS. Not a couple, like 20 years.

"The "rate" by which every piston engine" IT's NOT a piston engine!