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Old 02-07-10, 09:50 AM
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ka-t fc

k so few months back bought my 3rd car 88gxl 75k og miles after owning an ae86 as my first car then going to an s13 i wanted a car that was a true sports car and wasnt a sloppy feeling pos so i got the fc, with the intentions of swapping a ka or sr

so i pulled the perfect running 13b an trans out only 75k sold the set for 400 had 600 saved bought a ka24de with all accessories and sr trans for 1k

thats where im at so far should have enough the 18th for fab work and wiring
Old 02-07-10, 05:19 PM
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note you are going to get flamed for this thread. but i say ROCK ON!!!!!

i have a KA24DE high comp N/A biuld in my old 240SX hatch before i sold it.

i've always liked the thought of KA20DE+T get some of those revs back but keep the superior KA head.
Old 02-07-10, 05:55 PM
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sounds bad *** to me you should definatlty post some pictures when you get it done
and if you need any parts pm me, like a 50 trim turbo, and anything else for a ka
my friend chris's 240 made 247 rwhp and tore it down to make more than 450 rwhp. got tons of extra parts
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Was always a fan of the Ka-t, i like anything thats somewhat different than the norm. But, i dont think i like the idea of buying an Fc because of the fact its a "true sportscar" and then throwing a diff motor in it. Not bashing by any means, i love the originality factor i just dont agree with the motor you chose.

But anyways throw some pics up, its still an interesting swap
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Originally Posted by 89fc3sgtu
sounds bad *** to me you should definatlty post some pictures when you get it done
and if you need any parts pm me, like a 50 trim turbo, and anything else for a ka
my friend chris's 240 made 247 rwhp and tore it down to make more than 450 rwhp. got tons of extra parts
would u happen to have 550cc injectors?bov? im going with a t28 set up just mild for now with fmic an run about 10 psi i drift not drag ka is a great motor and will do with the pics

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note you are going to get flamed for this thread. but i say ROCK ON!!!!!

i have a KA24DE high comp N/A biuld in my old 240SX hatch before i sold it.

i've always liked the thought of KA20DE+T get some of those revs back but keep the superior KA head.
thanks and yes i love ka buddy has one pushing 230hp at the wheels and higher tq plenty for me

Originally Posted by Big88chevy
Was always a fan of the Ka-t, i like anything thats somewhat different than the norm. But, i dont think i like the idea of buying an Fc because of the fact its a "true sportscar" and then throwing a diff motor in it. Not bashing by any means, i love the originality factor i just dont agree with the motor you chose.

But anyways throw some pics up, its still an interesting swap
thanks. kat is great man sr is too but ka for the budget builder is ideal for great power and good dd capable an dope mpg
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ka-t ftw!!...

goodluck on the project.
Old 02-15-10, 01:51 AM
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thanks thursday fab starts an wiring
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im not neccesarily 'in favor' of piston swaps but i dont hate on them either (i tinkered with several different motor ideas when i blew my 3rd 13b ) but this one sounds like a good idea! ka's are solid *** motors and like everyone has mentioned, their friggin truck motors (lots of tq). i think that a swap for a stock ka wouldnt be worth the trouble obviously but since you plan or turboing it dwn the line, i couldnt agree more with your choice. your adding weight, and its chain driven (i just have a mental block against chain driven motors, i know, its weird)but other than that i cant see any negatives; more tq, more reliable power, great aftermarket, LOTS of CHEAP replacement parts (unlike SR motors, people always getting rid of KA's). im actually excited to see how this turns out, gl man
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Originally Posted by *TOUCH*
im not neccesarily 'in favor' of piston swaps but i dont hate on them either (i tinkered with several different motor ideas when i blew my 3rd 13b ) but this one sounds like a good idea! ka's are solid *** motors and like everyone has mentioned, their friggin truck motors (lots of tq). i think that a swap for a stock ka wouldnt be worth the trouble obviously but since you plan or turboing it dwn the line, i couldnt agree more with your choice. your adding weight, and its chain driven (i just have a mental block against chain driven motors, i know, its weird)but other than that i cant see any negatives; more tq, more reliable power, great aftermarket, LOTS of CHEAP replacement parts (unlike SR motors, people always getting rid of KA's). im actually excited to see how this turns out, gl man
THANKS MAN
ka trans uber strong too i ended up trading my sr trans for ka
an yes it will be boosted but not just bolt on an go good tuning full rebuild moderate power gunna shoot for 250 at the wheels and maybe later on up the mmotor build bottom end up build for more power but for now 250 is the goal
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sweet, can't wait to see how this turns out.

BTW, the KA trans and SR trans are the same internally. Both are reliable up to 300-350whp...once you hit around 350, they're on borrowed time depending on how you drive it.

I like the KA, great torque and very reliable...plus there's HUGE parts availability and parts are super cheap.

Good luck with the project!
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going in this sunday to begin the finish the swap
Old 03-03-10, 10:28 AM
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should be running friday if driveshaft is done on time
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pics or it didnt happen
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Pics for sure.

Succeed where i epically had no choice but to fail.....

If my town wasn't so damn gay i'd have my stock body n/a ka up and running right now....

I'm so glad i didn't do it.

I couldn't live with myself staring at an ugly *** stock body s4 sitting in my driveway for another year.
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Originally Posted by NoPistons!
Pics for sure.

Succeed where i epically had no choice but to fail.....

If my town wasn't so damn gay i'd have my stock body n/a ka up and running right now....

I'm so glad i didn't do it.

I couldn't live with myself staring at an ugly *** stock body s4 sitting in my driveway for another year.
ugh.
still not done havent drove in two months
this really sucks should have been done an getting exhaust today but driveshaft shop is fuckking gay
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I guess i'll be seeing more of you in this section, haha!
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wow wtf didnt know you were a member so crazy
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ran drove wont idle font know whats up
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Looks good. Wont idle? Adjust the tps and check for vac leaks.


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you have any more pics of this build?
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what motor mounts,driveshaft did u use?
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I've had three S13's all of which held up great, two o fthe cars went 250k before I needed to change motors. Did alot of drifting on the pair. For drifting the KA is about the best route IMO. Cheap to find and fix, relaible and tried and tested. If I ever swapped a motor other then another rotary i'd do a CA18DET. Small, lightweight and high revs. Mainly for track racing of course. I'd like to keep the vehicles balance. Good luck on the biuld and lets see some running footage when you get her straightened out.
The KA isn't known for TPS failures. Poor idling as in, it surges then shuts off, or does it just low idle and shut down. If it's low, i'd check your IAC which is on the back of the intake manifold. You'll need a flathead to adjust it. If it is surging then like dude said above. Check for leaks. Those rubber gromets for the fuel injectors suck. lol, so unless they are new they might be a problem.
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KA-T's are beasts. I had a buddy that put one together with wiseco 9:1's, a S15 T-28, and crower turbo cams. Ended up putting down over 300 on pump gas @ 10 psi on a really safe tune.

I'm actually considering going the same route. Did you have any issues with the oil pan or subframe? Any problems besides the mounts and driveshaft?
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KA's are a dime a dozen....

Me and my buddy built his KA-T for his S13 coupe for around $3k total.

$75 for a high mileage dual cam KA
$450 brand new for a JE/Eagle piston/rod combo someone was selling on houston240 who decided to go SR. Pistons were 9.5:1 CR .020 over
$120 for a full nissan gasket set from a group buy off of zilvia.net
$500 for maching/cleaning/clearancing of block, head and crank.
around $500 for dual valve springs, TI retainers, and some Crower Stage 1 cams (package deal someone was getting rid of, also going SR)

the rest was getting ARP hardware, bearings, and getting a t4 turbo mani and misc/small items. We also got a great deal on a full fuel system kit. Denso Supra pump(new), 750cc injectors(used, cleaned by RC), used FPR, used rail and -6 lines and an fittings for $350 shipped.
We went with a 2871R($750 used) and were able to get 280hp/3xxtq at 8psi on a Jim Wolf reflash(only cost us $250 on a group buy which had 500 people and we waited nearly 2months to get the ecu back from JWT), and at 20psi we did 380hp/365tq.

But it wasnt easy..... it took us nearly 6months to look for great deals on all the parts we got, and we also had friends who lived in areas with a high 240 population back when drifting was the best thing since sliced bread.

This was years ago tho.

Since then the motor made 420hp/410tq on e85 at 20psi on really aggressive timing 2 years ago and went with 1000cc injectors. since then the motor has held up to drifting and highway pulls.


But my friend wanted some more power potential and wanted more of a highway car, so he ditched the KA-T in favor of a RB25 with a large 35R 1.15 a/r pushing somewhere around 550hp on stock block @ 25psi on e85. Only engine mods are ARP headstuds and headgasket.
Just simple fuel mods, turbo mani, turbo, FMIC, DP and a Mines Reflash with SAFC(i said WTF too but it works) and MBC
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Amazing!! you made your car Slower than an N/a rx7 grats

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