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Sketch_hs 05-26-09 02:07 PM

1jzgte into FC build thread!!!!!!!
 
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I'm starting a 1jz swap in a 1988 Turbo II FC

Just got the car last week. 1jz engine is on the way and today is rotary removal day :)

I'll try and make this a complete build thread that would help anyone who wants to do the swap. There will be detailed wiring instructions and engine mount templates (maybe, lol)

Here is the car as she sits right now:

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Will post again once the engine is out....

SirCygnus 05-26-09 03:59 PM

thats TOO clean to not have a rotary in it.

Sketch_hs 05-26-09 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by SirCygnus (Post 9239490)
that's TOO clean to have a rotary in it.


FIXED! lol



Yeah it's a good starting point.... interior needs works though.

Rotary is about 1/2 way out. Taking a break (95* here in sac!)

Sketch_hs 05-26-09 06:30 PM

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OUT GOES THE ROTARY!

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That's enough for today for me!

More tomorrow.....

mr_4g 05-26-09 06:37 PM

somehow, the car is now allot better.

maac0953 05-26-09 06:39 PM

whats wrong with ur motor and do you live in FL?????????

Sketch_hs 05-26-09 07:25 PM

Low compression.


Sacramento, CA

Sketch_hs 05-27-09 11:52 AM

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Step 2:

Clean engine bay!

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/IMG_1191.jpg

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Little time with a pressure washer and some simple green goes a long way....

NoPistons! 05-27-09 12:06 PM

I spy a smudge where the afm is supposed to be.

Do it again!

Sketch_hs 05-27-09 01:28 PM

lol ^^


I'll clean it more once the car is running with a 1jz lol

Next I need to pull harness of the rotary engine... i'll need some parts of it!

mr_4g 05-27-09 03:09 PM

So clean. Should polish the paint with something soft, like the cats.

im.a.real.vegetarian 05-28-09 03:11 PM

Clean car bro.It will look dope when you finally have the 1jz in :)

ibekinq 05-29-09 03:50 AM


Originally Posted by Sketch_hs (Post 9242062)
Next I need to pull harness of the rotary engine... i'll need some parts of it!

by chance do you know what exactly wires you need fron the harness?
trying to do mine but dont have a stock harness to work with.

Sketch_hs 05-29-09 10:49 AM

^^

You'll need the plug from the harness that goes to the body

It also goes to the wiper motor, cruise control etc


Then you'll need the wires, plugs and sensors from the coolant temp sending unit for the gauge cluster and the oil pressure sending unit. I think they trace all the way back to that same body connector...


You'll need the complete fuse/starer harness also. It connects to the battery and runs along the side of the engine bay, all the way down the transmission. A lot of important things go through this harness like power for the vehicle, charging system, connection to the starter relay etc.


I'm just getting started in the wiring and don't have all the answers yet.... I'll try to have a wiring guide up sometime in the futures as I wire it up. I'm still waiting for the new engine and wire harness to arrive

ibekinq 05-29-09 02:48 PM

Ok I just thought that you needed more things that that. I have a running car but my ecu harness is a haltech thought you needed more off the main.

I am also waiting on my motor. Jhot is pertty good everyone that I have talk to says you can always count on having the motor to be running from them

Sketch_hs 05-30-09 09:10 PM

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Still waiting for the motor so I started doing some interior work... most of the blue stuff removed:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/IMG_1192.jpg

And my new door panels are the first parts to arrive! :D

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mr_4g 05-30-09 09:12 PM

wash interior. now.
done yet?

Sketch_hs 05-31-09 08:29 PM

There was progress on the interior today... pics tomorrow when it's all back together

Sketch_hs 06-01-09 01:39 PM

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Progress on the interior:

Here is how it started:

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Strip interior:

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Parted out a black s5, most are a direct match. The carpet was filthy!

Hand scrub with laundry detergent and pressure wash clean. Took all day to dry out:

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While it was drying I started cleaning and putting the rear interior back together... yes some parts are still blue, some parts don't interchange because of the s5 power seat belts.

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Re installed carpet, was kind of a bitch to get it lined up right, but it's good now and it's nice and clean (and smells great!)

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CLEAN!

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Moar later :D

Sketch_hs 06-01-09 10:28 PM

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Interior pretty much done for now.... can't wait for the damn swap to arrive so we can get to the good stuff.

Anyways here is the 90% complete interior (seats and steering wheel are probably temporary)

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Got everything really cheap and I think it turned out pretty well :D

im.a.real.vegetarian 06-03-09 06:48 AM

damn im jealous i want my interior black not that ugly blue.

Sketch_hs 06-03-09 10:19 AM

^^ part out a car and swap it over!

It's not really hard. Just time consuming!

clokker 06-05-09 03:37 PM

Interior looks great.
Too bad you didn't wait till the swap was finished before reinstalling it.
Life would have been a lot simpler if you didn't have to work around the dash/seats, etc.

Sketch_hs 06-06-09 01:38 AM

^^ not much to do under the dash. everything can be accessed from the harness by the ECU plugs and the engine harness

Sketch_hs 06-09-09 11:14 PM

ANOTHER delay from engine supplier.


FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

TeAm-FaTaL 06-11-09 11:03 PM

Keep us updated.. Looking to do the same swap.!!

Sketch_hs 06-16-09 06:10 PM

motor should be here tomorrow!

Sketch_hs 06-17-09 06:59 PM

Day late again :/

Sketch_hs 06-18-09 05:08 PM

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Overnight parts from japan!

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Actually took about a month :/

Motor looks very good no broken sensors or shipping damage. Very complete.

Guess I wont know for sure till i start her up but compression feels great turning it over by hand

ibekinq 06-19-09 03:57 AM

man i hope mine looks as pretty when i get mine.............im still debating on selling my motor or just waiting till i blow it..........

Sketch_hs 06-19-09 04:26 AM

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Tight squeeze!

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Here it is just resting in the bay. Going to fab up mounts tomorrow.

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yay i'm tired

Sketch_hs 06-19-09 09:31 AM

Today im going to try and fab up the mounts.

Basically you need to position the motor perfectly and just make them! But getting the motor to the exact right spot can be pretty hard!

The absolute key to this step is taking your time and getting it right the first time.


On an interesting note, the way the oil pan (rear sump) fits with the subframe of the FC is beautiful. Almost like it was meant to be :D

Tight fit about everywhere though!

There will be more pics and a progress report later.

electricalbox 06-19-09 09:46 AM

Looking great...Get back on HT! :P

Sketch_hs 06-20-09 05:11 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by rogue420 View Post
Are you gonna try to get the a/c working?
Yes, but there isn't much room.



*Mounts are mostly done. Motor is in the car and perfectly centered/aligned!

Transmission mount was pretty easy. The engine mounts are a little harder.

The current problem I have is that the FC rx7 mounts are too weak and soft for the bigger massively more torquey motor.

I can literally flex the rx7 mounts in my hands! JUNK!

This leaves the motor too loose when installed. I can actually shake it back and forth a small amount. Unacceptable.

So the FC rx7 mounts are very simple. Basically a hockey puck shape with two studs. Im going to have to fab up something more solid (but not so much as the interior gets rattled apart at idle!)

MOAR LATER!

ibekinq 06-20-09 06:07 PM

one question...... I've been looking into the radiator i mean fabing mounts are fine but what fan are you going to use? I've been hearing that the stock fan works better than the aftermarkets on jz motors. the question well, request, is if you could put on the stock fan and measure how much room is left. would be greatly appreciated!

THANKS

Sketch_hs 06-20-09 07:47 PM

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All in place!

Used some random polyurethane parts I had and made the engine mounts nice and stiff!

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http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...ounted1jz3.jpg

Radiator mounting needs to change:

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Shifter needs to extend 3-4 inch

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Making the mounts was time consuming... I need to buy a plasma cutter ASAP!

More later. It's too hot to keep working today.

Sketch_hs 06-20-09 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by ibekinq (Post 9304104)
one question...... I've been looking into the radiator i mean fabing mounts are fine but what fan are you going to use? I've been hearing that the stock fan works better than the aftermarkets on jz motors. the question well, request, is if you could put on the stock fan and measure how much room is left. would be greatly appreciated!

THANKS


No room for stock fan or even stock radiator mounting. It needs to be moved.

I'm using a slim 2800 CFM FAN

leftcoastdrifter 06-21-09 03:48 AM

looks like your swap is coming along nicely. you'll have to come to a meet when it actually drives. don't pop your hood though, wouldn't wanna make anyone cry lol.

Sketch_hs 06-21-09 04:28 PM

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Extending the harness, about 3.5 feet. Lots more wires left! About 100 total :/

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Notice the OCD here. I'm soldering and heak shrinking everything (of course!)

i'm also cannibalizing a 2jzgte JDM harness I got with another motor. It was already cut and the ecu connectors were smashed so i'm putting the wires to good use.

i'm also using the same color wires to extend the harness, taking the OCD to a whole new level :D

Should be done with extending the harness in about 3-4 hours :|

ehime 06-21-09 05:56 PM

Looks great, who'd you buy your engine through?
How much did you pay for it? Congrats on going
down the "Other Road" lol.

TurboII RudeBoy 06-21-09 06:10 PM

your doing a couple things wrong but i'll help
 
your don't need to cut the harness!! it will actually leave the ecu in the right location. you just need 5 wires off the 1jz ecu to splice into. the ground, the 2 batt powers(ig power), the battery constant(memory), and start signal if you really want to. evrything else you can use off the 1jz harness is already where it needs to be. email me at condolence187@aol.com formore in depth info. i hope you just built pedastils off of the rx7 subrame and didn't mount the 1jz mounts on an angle. anyways the build looks good keep up the good work.

Sketch_hs 06-21-09 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by TurboII RudeBoy (Post 9305764)
your don't need to cut the harness!! it will actually leave the ecu in the right location. you just need 5 wires off the 1jz ecu to splice into. the ground, the 2 batt powers(ig power), the battery constant(memory), and start signal if you really want to. evrything else you can use off the 1jz harness is already where it needs to be. email me at condolence187@aol.com formore in depth info. i hope you just built pedastils off of the rx7 subrame and didn't mount the 1jz mounts on an angle. anyways the build looks good keep up the good work.

The harness is way too short to reach an acceptable mounting location...

besides i'm almost done.

Sketch_hs 06-22-09 12:27 AM

next i need to take the engine back out, finish and paint the mounts then:

* install my shifter extension

* thoroughly clean engine

* remove oil pan and bang out the dents (yay shipping)

* join RX7 charging and starting harness to 1jz motor

* Separate cruise and window wiper harness from rx7 harness and run it

* modify heater core outlet and inlet to fit

* mount radiator + fan and fan wiring

* run cooling system, fuel system, intake and charge lines

* make custom down pipe to fit stock RX7 exhaust system

* have custom drive shaft made

* custom clutch hydraulic line

* custom power steering lines


Probably more i'm forgetting!

driftking777 06-22-09 09:23 AM

Looking good man. Keep it up!

my_tinker_toy_fd 06-23-09 09:13 PM

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just saw your thread and i just want to share to you what i have done something diffent from the rest on an FD swap. enjoy

just got it done last week it runs and drive i just need a good paint job

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mr_4g 06-23-09 10:23 PM

Are you done yet?
why do you work so slow?

Sketch_hs 06-24-09 12:56 AM

need some help with the wiring! I hooked up the battery constant, ignition switched power and grounds but no power to the injectors or ignitor no spark no fuel etc. I think I need to wire the harness connectors into the RX7 Fuse box... I don't have the supra fuse box!

however it turns over great and the fuel pump is working!

TurboII RudeBoy, any help?

Eul_Rx-7 06-24-09 01:17 AM

[QUOTE=my_tinker_toy_fd;9310707]just saw your thread and i just want to share to you what i have done something diffent from the rest on an FD swap. enjoy

just got it done last week it runs and drive i just need a good paint job
Can you post some pics of your engine mounts, tranny mounts, and diff mounts set up? I was just thinking of going this route also with 7m-gte setup...looks more promising after seeing your car.
also any setup is greatly appreciated!

Sketch_hs 06-24-09 09:09 AM

^yeah sure,

are you using the 7m fuse box and powering it that way?

Eul_Rx-7 06-24-09 01:08 PM

^Thanks,

I've decide to just go with a 1jz-gte with the R154 tranmission. I think I need some info on wiring it up if it is just a few wires that need to be extended and wired into certain parts. I rather do it myself than spend almost $500 dollars to have someone rewire it. Any wiring info or tricks is greatly appreciated.

Sorry if I'm Hi-Jacking your thread.


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