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Old 09-04-09, 05:45 AM
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I can appreciate the fabrication and work that goes into building a mini truck...

Bagging, modifying suspension, etc... And you're right, they're all about being clean. Good smooth welds, chrome in the engine bay... I do like the looks of them...


Personally, not my thing, as I like to raise my trucks up and get them more dirty. But when a truck is done up right and looks good, I can give credit where it's due.
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ok, so im pretty sure there is going to be cooling issues?

am i going to need to upgrade my fan and radiator?

also i have heard oil cooling issues? any truth to that?
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picture for reference of what we"re dealing with here =)
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well, guess i cant post pics on here...
is there a certain post count to post pics?
Old 09-04-09, 11:51 AM
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I don't know about post count. Resize the pics to less than 256k and upload them using the "manage attachments" and then copy the link and paste between[img] and[/img]
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Originally Posted by mymmeryloss
ok, so im pretty sure there is going to be cooling issues?

am i going to need to upgrade my fan and radiator?

also i have heard oil cooling issues? any truth to that?
You WILL need to figure out how to mount an oil cooler, regardless of engine... Even the NA engines have huge oil coolers.

I suggest in front of the radiator or under it.

Use the stock truck radiator for the time being and monitor coolant temps. You can upgrade later, as there will be a LOT of room under the hood when you swap engines.
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im completely gaugeless right now, so i will definately look into a temp gauge.

heres a link since they wont post, if anyone is interested in seeing what we are working with here..
http://www.okshowpics.com/displayima...bum=130&pos=52
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^

Yeah, you're gonna need to run a custom manifold anyhow. Factory location of both FC and FD turbos will probably melt that passenger's side tire.
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ok.
well hell lol.
are u talking custom as in home built or something aftermarket?
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^ Custom is always home built.

I'd find something that puts the turbo up high and either forward or aft of the engine. That should get it away from that tire.

Like I said, get the engine in there first, run it NA if you have to. Just see what you're working with.

My truck was a 4x4, so I still had the inner fender and the tire was a foot away from the engine. I probably could have used the stock turbo setup...

Custom truck calls for custom parts.
Old 09-10-09, 09:31 AM
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The guy I bought my turbo engine and everything from was doing a swap into a B2200 with a 12A. There was ample room for everything, but since he's dropping it, I'd say go NA, because any decent turbo setup would fail with relocation. Or he could sacrifice dropping it a bit in lieu of making more reliable power, having a cooler engine bay, and he could do something not many mini truck drivers can - drift. I know OP wants an FD motor, but not why... seems like a wasteful expense, when similar gains can be had for far less. And these are mini truckers, they don't know a whole lot about rotaries.

To OP, get the truck with the 12A in it, the engien should be mounted to the front subframe, with the engine's front cover doing all of the mounting, supported by the trans.

You'll take that 12A front cover and bolt it onto your 13B, the 13B will then shoehorn in - happily. Then you have to figure out transmission mounting, which shouldn't be difficult, since it may be use stock supports.
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i just want the awe factor from the swap when im at a show and people are like are u f'ing kidding me when they see it and then to be able to drive it away with the blowoff valve going off of the 13b would be totally worth it to me, so i would like to do the fd or turbo II swap.

i have no idea how or where to start with a custom turbo mani. that is one thing that i know needs a lot of thought put into it for air flow and such. is this something a muffler shop could fab up? im sure it wouldnt be cheap, but like u said i could source a keg and go n/a until i get everything figured out.

so oil cooler and fabbing up a turbo mani. alright, now we are getting somewhere.

i really do appreciate all the advice, but stop trying to turn me off from the turbo swaps lol
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You're starting from the wrong end.

Get it together and running, first.
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i guess i dont fully understand what u mean by that statement..
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im starting from the wrong end?
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wanna explain?
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You need to make a running, functional vehicle before you can do anything else.

You have done other custom trucks, right?
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+1.. Get it running and moving on the rotary FIRST... Then add the turbo.
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yes i have built other trucks..
ok, i see what ur saying now...

im trying to get more familiar with the rotary, but im more hands on than anything, and there are no rx7s here so its tough...
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oh, btw, im putting inner fenders in when i redo the firewall(trailer fenders molded in) so do u think that will help with the turbo problem on my tires?
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ok, my firewall is cut out and i am ready to weld in the sheetmetal and was just making sure im not going to need to do anything to the tranny tunnel or anything to make room for any of the parts? i know the rotary is smaller and should have no issues, but i just wanted to check..
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You shouldn't. But it all depends on your setup.
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k thank u..
working on getting some rims sold so i can start buying some parts.. yay
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ok, well all i have found is complete engines.
im sure i am just going to buy the complete swap and see what i have to do from there.
i figure i should have no problem selling whatever i dont need?
well atleast i hope...
once again, i appreciate the help
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ok, bringing back the dead thread.

so i am finally at a point where i am ready to buy an engine, and i am pretty sure i am going with either an s4 or s5 longblock with tranny and ecu and all the wiring.

i sold my engine and tranny and exhaust so i am going to mate the whole setup up and then have a driveline fabbed up for me.

any thoughts?

will this be my best bet?

the truck is now rhd also, so hopefully i wont have to move the turbo too far.

aslo will i have any problems with lag if i relocate the turbo?

this is also another reason i want to go single turbo. i realize mazda put a lot of work into making the sequentials work in sucession and i dont wanna mess that up.

i can get the fd engine for a few hundred more and if i dont have a problem relocating the turbos then i may still go with the 3 rotor, but as of now i am satisfied with going with the 2 rotor single turbo.

comments please. this swap will be bought with tax money.

thanks


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