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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 11:47 AM
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RX2 Camber plate options

Been looking at several camber plate options that will work with Function Form Type 2 Coilovers, all look promising but look to be expensive. And to be honest not sure if they'll work with the F2's. I'm leaning towards the Techno toy tuning, less cost, american company.

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TECHNO TOY TUNING - $190 + upper hats $60 + shipping
https://technotoytuning.com/mazda/rx2



KMAC - $364 + EXPENSIVE shippng
http://www.ebay.com/itm/131362262022?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 04:23 PM
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I was looking into those too.but will need to remove a coilover and take it apart for measuring.
looks like cutting the strut tower is a must too.
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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 05:36 PM
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ground control would be another option, they might not list them on the site, but they used to race Rx2/3/7s so they've done it before
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 10:44 PM
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I sent Jay from ground control some strut towers about a month ago . Ground control is in the process of making rx2 camber plates and they are being made so that we don't need to cut the strut tops .I'll keep you posted
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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 03:01 AM
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Awesome mattallac! Absolutely keep us posted!
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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 05:53 PM
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I also found these out of Australia. It appears these are sold as a complete coil over package. Looks like this style of camber plate would not require any cutting of the strut towers. I contacted the company to see if they would be willing to sell me just the camber plates. Are these similar to what you are having done mattallac?

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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 05:59 PM
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Friend of mine just installed a set of those bad boys on his sedan.but hasn't drove car yet due to aerospace big brakes and wheel clearance.but I wonder if to adjust camber the strut top has to be unbolted?which would make it a hassle.
I called technotoy tuning and talked to them,need to take one of my form function coilover off and measure shock diameter.
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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 10:23 PM
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I have made spacers like that for my car and I was not to pleased with the results . I talked to Jay from ground control today , he said he has rear plates ground control has made for the fc shocks in the rear (no adj. of course )Jay said they are working on the camber plates as we speak and they will be made to be used with fb struts .
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Old Mar 17, 2015 | 12:58 AM
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Have had quite a few really good experiences with T3, currently have their full suspension lineup on my first gen. Would recommend to anyone, if you have any questions or even have an idea for a different type of part call Gabriel up and they can make it happen.

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Old Mar 17, 2015 | 12:22 PM
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@turbo_dave - that would be interesting to see that setup in person, and to confirm that the camber can be adjusted without disassembly. But if T3 can come up with an adjustable setup for the F2's, that would be great!

@mattallac - I also wondered if having the spacer/camber plate would change the geometry in any adverse way.

@atheadwins - aside from the cost, I like the idea of supporting U.S. made after market products, I'll have to contact Gabriel thanks!
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Old Mar 17, 2015 | 11:21 PM
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The bottom line on the front suspension is to get the desired settings . I personally like 1/2 degree of neg camber in the front of my cars. The rx2 with fb struts are a little bit of a pain in the *** as far as camber goes . I have re speed +1" lower control arms w/ miata ball joints from re speed , I showed jay from ground control and he said they looked pretty weak . I would think a lower control arm with adjustment (like racing beats old fb arms ) would also be a good alternative .
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Old Mar 17, 2015 | 11:25 PM
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Those kmac style ones are the go for rx2's as they can be adjusted without disassembly. You just need to loosen the nuts on the strut top.
I have the old Noltec styles ones on my car and they are great. Unfortunately Noltec sold the design to Wilkinson suspension who I believe has stopped producing them.
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Just took of a coilover from my car (form functions type 2's)and got it measured.will call tomorrow and talk to technotoy tuning and see what's up.i will keep you guys posted.
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Talked to one of the guys at technotoy tuning and gave him the measurement I took.he said he does have them in that diameter,so we are good to go.he asked to measure two other things just so he gives me the correct ones,will remove my coilover again tonight or tomorrow and get those measurements so I can place my order.

Downside is you do have open up the hole on the shock tower.which I'm fine with,not sure about the rest of you guys with form functions tho.


On a side note I talked to my friend about his coil over set (Australian pictured above) from acbronmotorsports and he said he still needs to open up the shock tower hole in order to adjust.

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Either way seems like there's no easy adjustability with the stock RX2 strut tower design.

I was trying to avoid having to alter the shock tower. Since I've never used camber plates, I would imagine once they're set to the desired angle, they probably won't be adjusted again. I suppose I could figure the angle, then install, which seems like a hassle, but at least the camber can be adjusted.

Great info turbo_dave! Let us know what the final result is!
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Originally Posted by RX2-Mazda-Fan
Either way seems like there's no easy adjustability with the stock RX2 strut tower design.

I was trying to avoid having to alter the shock tower. Since I've never used camber plates, I would imagine once they're set to the desired angle, they probably won't be adjusted again. I suppose I could figure the angle, then install, which seems like a hassle, but at least the camber can be adjusted.

Great info turbo_dave! Let us know what the final result is!
Did you not read my post?

There is a way with the stock rx2 strut tower design without modification.
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Old Mar 22, 2015 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RX2-Mazda-Fan
Either way seems like there's no easy adjustability with the stock RX2 strut tower design.

I was trying to avoid having to alter the shock tower. Since I've never used camber plates, I would imagine once they're set to the desired angle, they probably won't be adjusted again. I suppose I could figure the angle, then install, which seems like a hassle, but at least the camber can be adjusted.

Great info turbo_dave! Let us know what the final result is!
in a street car you're probably going to set the camber to something like -0.5 and not touch it much. so having to take something apart to adjust isn't a huge deal. it is possible to make it so you don't need to pull apart and adjust, but it would take a redesign, or some kind of custom weird tool to get in the uncut factory hole.

for what its worth, BMW's are the same, teeny hole in the shock tower.
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Old Mar 23, 2015 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by .::evil inside::.
Did you not read my post?

There is a way with the stock rx2 strut tower design without modification.
Yes!! They are by far the best setup for adjustability (camber+caster), I suppose you get what you pay for. The cost + shipping is almost double. Functionality and cost are both factors I'll take into consideration before purchasing. Thanks .::evil inside::.!

@j9fd3s - that was my thinking. Since I have no experience in the subject, great to hear all the input!!

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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 07:34 AM
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Yeah that's fair enough, I understand those kmac ones do cost a premium however you don't have to chop your car up to make them work which is something I'm always happy to pay more for.
I'm not even necessarily suggesting you use kmac items as I've only ever heard bad things about them. However using a similar design, like the old Noltec ones, provided you can find them would be ideal.

@j9fd3s - You're on the money there mate, most people in a street application just set and forget. It's the initial setting that can be a pain though, as with old cars like these if you set both strut tops the same it's unlikely the total camber will be the same on both sides.
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