Mazda might make a NEW RX-3..
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Mazda might make a NEW RX-3..
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http://rotarynews.com/view.php?id=158
our sources tell us some of this might be true!!
We know Mazda has been snooping around this story @ RN, so leave us your comments.
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http://rotarynews.com/view.php?id=158
our sources tell us some of this might be true!!
We know Mazda has been snooping around this story @ RN, so leave us your comments.
Thanks,
Bern
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Re: Mazda might make a NEW RX-3..
Originally posted by Bern
Check it out..
http://rotarynews.com/view.php?id=158
our sources tell us some of this might be true!!
We know Mazda has been snooping around this story @ RN, so leave us your comments.
Thanks,
Bern
'83 GS Turbo
'71 RX-2
Check it out..
http://rotarynews.com/view.php?id=158
our sources tell us some of this might be true!!
We know Mazda has been snooping around this story @ RN, so leave us your comments.
Thanks,
Bern
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'71 RX-2
Why they did not go after and capture a market that was theres for the taking has always been a great mystery to me.
Could you imagine a RX 4 styled muscle car, desinged to compete with models like the Mustang. Maybe with a friendly little 20b in it?
Anyways, I would be very interested in a car that followed the old, RX 2, 3, and 4 platforms.
Thats my 2 cents
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That story is highly conjectural, I think. But I do think that ProtegeRx-3 pic is nifty looking.
The problem is that a retro version of the RX-3 would not sell. The Rx-3 is FAR FROM recognizable to the general population.
A retro T-bird works because everyone knows what a T-bird is. A PT Cruiser works becuase everyone has seen fat-fendered hot rods. A retro Rx-3 would cause 99.9% of all people to go "huh?"
Mazda needs "WOW!", not "huh?"....People have said "huh?" to Mazda cars enough already.
The problem is that a retro version of the RX-3 would not sell. The Rx-3 is FAR FROM recognizable to the general population.
A retro T-bird works because everyone knows what a T-bird is. A PT Cruiser works becuase everyone has seen fat-fendered hot rods. A retro Rx-3 would cause 99.9% of all people to go "huh?"
Mazda needs "WOW!", not "huh?"....People have said "huh?" to Mazda cars enough already.
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Originally posted by antiSUV
The Rx-3 is FAR FROM recognizable to the general population.
A retro T-bird works because everyone knows what a T-bird is. A PT Cruiser works becuase everyone has seen fat-fendered hot rods. A retro Rx-3 would cause 99.9% of all people to go "huh?"
Mazda needs "WOW!", not "huh?"....People have said "huh?" to Mazda cars enough already.
The Rx-3 is FAR FROM recognizable to the general population.
A retro T-bird works because everyone knows what a T-bird is. A PT Cruiser works becuase everyone has seen fat-fendered hot rods. A retro Rx-3 would cause 99.9% of all people to go "huh?"
Mazda needs "WOW!", not "huh?"....People have said "huh?" to Mazda cars enough already.
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Originally posted by antiSUV
That story is highly conjectural, I think. But I do think that ProtegeRx-3 pic is nifty looking.
The problem is that a retro version of the RX-3 would not sell. The Rx-3 is FAR FROM recognizable to the general population.
A retro T-bird works because everyone knows what a T-bird is. A PT Cruiser works becuase everyone has seen fat-fendered hot rods. A retro Rx-3 would cause 99.9% of all people to go "huh?"
Mazda needs "WOW!", not "huh?"....People have said "huh?" to Mazda cars enough already.
That story is highly conjectural, I think. But I do think that ProtegeRx-3 pic is nifty looking.
The problem is that a retro version of the RX-3 would not sell. The Rx-3 is FAR FROM recognizable to the general population.
A retro T-bird works because everyone knows what a T-bird is. A PT Cruiser works becuase everyone has seen fat-fendered hot rods. A retro Rx-3 would cause 99.9% of all people to go "huh?"
Mazda needs "WOW!", not "huh?"....People have said "huh?" to Mazda cars enough already.
I don't think they would be looking for a nostalgic release, but rather a car that would be in the same arena as a Camary, or an Accord. One of those dime a dozen cars. A car like this with a rotary in it is what would differentiate it, and cause people to buy it. I think it would sell very well.
Also remember,the more cars that they can sell with a rotary engine in, the more chance the rotary has at survival.
This is truly Mazda's niche. It is really the only reason they were able to break into the market. It is what they are known for. they should continue to expand on that, and exploit that.
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I read the thread and it seemed like people were talking about Mazda producing a modern rotary-powered small sedan with retro Rx-3-like styling queues.
I'd be the first to agree that it would be cool, and perhaps even profitable for Mazda to build a Protege-like car on the Rx-8 platform with a rotary engine (depends on the success of the RX-8). I was just opining that calling it a new Rx-3 and marketing it as the second coming of the RX-3 would be stupid since hardly anyone has a clue what an RX-3 is.
Yes, Mazda made their name with the revolutionary wankel in the 70's, but there were plenty of teething problems. They tried to put the wankel in everything under the sun but the truth is that the wankel is not inherently suited for every type of vehicle. It works best in small/light sporty cars which can best capitalize on it's stronger attributes (low cg, revvyness, and power from a small package.)
As much as we love them, the facts are that wankels still do not get great gas mileage, nor do they have the torque that most americans crave. Becuase of those factors and others, you will not see a 3300 lb. rotary-powered "Accord-fighter" from Mazda.
I'd be the first to agree that it would be cool, and perhaps even profitable for Mazda to build a Protege-like car on the Rx-8 platform with a rotary engine (depends on the success of the RX-8). I was just opining that calling it a new Rx-3 and marketing it as the second coming of the RX-3 would be stupid since hardly anyone has a clue what an RX-3 is.
Yes, Mazda made their name with the revolutionary wankel in the 70's, but there were plenty of teething problems. They tried to put the wankel in everything under the sun but the truth is that the wankel is not inherently suited for every type of vehicle. It works best in small/light sporty cars which can best capitalize on it's stronger attributes (low cg, revvyness, and power from a small package.)
As much as we love them, the facts are that wankels still do not get great gas mileage, nor do they have the torque that most americans crave. Becuase of those factors and others, you will not see a 3300 lb. rotary-powered "Accord-fighter" from Mazda.
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The idea of a new RX-3 over at Mazda would be in the small compact segment... a car to compete with the Honda Civics, Nissan Sentras, Ford Focus, etc.. A small lightweight compact "RWD" chassis, not a mid-size sedan.
Great input here guys.. I hope you leave some over at
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Great input here guys.. I hope you leave some over at
RotaryNews.com where Mazda will read it and you can also read what others have said.
Thanks,
--Bern
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YES!!
Larger displacement RENESIS motor with possible forced induction.
300+hp regardless of the motor being N/A or turbo/super charged.
Lightweight (less than 2800lbs)
Extremely high handling limits
Unique styling and design
No compromises
Mazda understands that any new vehicle carrying the RX-7 moniker will have live up to the 3rd generation FD RX-7. We have actually been told as much by key Mazda people. They understand all of the shortcomings, and more importantly, the streghtens of the FD, and will/have addressed and/or improved on them, as to not make the same mistakes twice. The new RX-7 will be a car designed and built with the spirit of the FD, through and through!
300+hp regardless of the motor being N/A or turbo/super charged.
Lightweight (less than 2800lbs)
Extremely high handling limits
Unique styling and design
No compromises
Mazda understands that any new vehicle carrying the RX-7 moniker will have live up to the 3rd generation FD RX-7. We have actually been told as much by key Mazda people. They understand all of the shortcomings, and more importantly, the streghtens of the FD, and will/have addressed and/or improved on them, as to not make the same mistakes twice. The new RX-7 will be a car designed and built with the spirit of the FD, through and through!
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They would be smart to keep with some of the design from the older Rx3 too, even if they only used a little part of it. Like the round tail lights, those but newer design and laid out would be neat to see on a new Rx3 
I don't care if they call it RX-3 or RX .5!! However this is exactly what Mazda needs to do. Have a SMALL type vehicle with a rotary engine on it, just like the ol' good days. Furthermore the Miata should be build so that if somebody wishes to replace the engine in favor of RENESIS.
That's what mainly attract the Honda boys, a light weight\small vehicle that is capable of no hassle engine swaps. That and affordability!!
That's what mainly attract the Honda boys, a light weight\small vehicle that is capable of no hassle engine swaps. That and affordability!!
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Originally posted by KNONFS
That's what mainly attract the Honda boys, a light weight\small vehicle that is capable of no hassle engine swaps. That and affordability!!
That's what mainly attract the Honda boys, a light weight\small vehicle that is capable of no hassle engine swaps. That and affordability!!
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REPOST REPOST from above
Originally posted by firstgen82
Wonder if it will be fwd?
Wonder if it will be fwd?
The idea of a new RX-3 over at Mazda would be in the small compact segment... a car to compete with the Honda Civics, Nissan Sentras, Ford Focus, etc.. A small lightweight compact "RWD" chassis, not a mid-size sedan.
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