This car owes me nothing!!!
01-24-14, 11:56 PM
#1
This car owes me nothing!!!
Well we are in the middle of this "polar vortex" and all my other cars have been incapacitated in some way due to the weather conditions so I was left to commute to my 2 jobs from brooklyn to queens and then to the bronx and back to brooklyn for the last 8 days in my 78 GLC....she has been a trooper to say the least. Temps as low as real feel -4 degrees, 13 inches of snow...no choke stripped nikki 12a 4speed.
just thought I would share...god I wish it would warm up!
just thought I would share...god I wish it would warm up!
Last edited by cfamilyfix; 01-24-14 at 11:58 PM.
01-25-14, 11:30 AM
#3
Part of me feels bad for using it in such harsh conditions, but to be honest I probably drove it more this last week than I did this whole past season. It def saved my bacon since my Civic has 2 cracked wheels now after hitting a pot hole, and the miata MIGHT have lost an engine (its too buried in snow right now to deal with)...
01-29-14, 09:56 PM
#4
It looks sweet in the snow ! Always had a soft spot for rotary GLC's , most people don't even remember them. I saw a rally prepped one compete years ago with a 13B PP I think from Alaska , it was insane. Got an article in a mag somewhere about a dealer that used to do conversions in the mid 80's .....
01-30-14, 12:05 AM
#5
The car has been up for sale here in ny for a while with no bites, so maybe it will come apart for a redo this summer or something. We did a lot of rwd 626's back in the day with the occasional GLC wagon popping up here and there. I will probably hang on to this one. I have had it a while now and taken it to CT, Delaware, Boston, Atco NJ, etc. so plenty of good times. My son looks at it with a twinkle in his eye too, he's 14 now so just a few years until he be asking for the keys to something lol.
01-30-14, 12:55 AM
#6
I'm glad you're having second thoughts about selling it. I would be sad if you did.
Hmm, for a redo, maybe try a long primary exhaust or something? Really tax your rotary and welding knowledge. The results should be incredible. I'm still designing a small siamesed presilencer for mine to fit in the limited space available (ask and I'll provide the specs). Or just leave it at a perfectly adequate short collected 2.5" system and throw the Camden supercharger in it! Of course if I pulled the trigger and did the long primary, the power with the SC would be, as I said, incredible. It's not just the power, but the response, the driveability, the sound. Everything. Just waiting for better weather like you.
Hmm, for a redo, maybe try a long primary exhaust or something? Really tax your rotary and welding knowledge. The results should be incredible. I'm still designing a small siamesed presilencer for mine to fit in the limited space available (ask and I'll provide the specs). Or just leave it at a perfectly adequate short collected 2.5" system and throw the Camden supercharger in it! Of course if I pulled the trigger and did the long primary, the power with the SC would be, as I said, incredible. It's not just the power, but the response, the driveability, the sound. Everything. Just waiting for better weather like you.
02-03-14, 11:51 PM
#7
Thanks Jeff. Right now its buried in about 10in of snow, but I have been secretly collecting parts for improvements. I have a 12 street port built and ready to go in as well as an old school RE road race header which would of course will prompt a new exhaust set up. A 79 5speed sits waiting as well as an fc alternator for all the charging system upgrades I will ever need. To go with the 12a is a RE weber set up (see a theme here?) as well as a new carter 4070 . I would love to go direct fire ign but this may not be the engine for that...the 6port set up on the 79 will get that treatment.
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02-04-14, 06:48 AM
#9
Glad you're going to do a long primary. 
Be prepared to mod one of the pipes where it goes past the idler arm. Thw clearance is tight.
A theme? What, like an upgrade in every way? Well then you really, really should do a direct fire upgrade. Think about this: The reason it ran as well as it did during the bad weather is due to the Nikki being a pretty good design. However the Weber is less forgiving. So you really should do a direct fire upgrade in the GLC because there are no down sides and it will overcome some of the problems 2bbl carbs have on rotaries (imperfect mixture here and there etc). The easier starts alone are one of the best reasons.
Be prepared to mod one of the pipes where it goes past the idler arm. Thw clearance is tight.A theme? What, like an upgrade in every way? Well then you really, really should do a direct fire upgrade. Think about this: The reason it ran as well as it did during the bad weather is due to the Nikki being a pretty good design. However the Weber is less forgiving. So you really should do a direct fire upgrade in the GLC because there are no down sides and it will overcome some of the problems 2bbl carbs have on rotaries (imperfect mixture here and there etc). The easier starts alone are one of the best reasons.
02-08-14, 12:21 AM
#14
Im sorry Jeff...I think it was in one of Ray Green's threads that you said going direct fire with lapped irons would accelerate the oil control problem that I was eventually gonna have....its usually late at night when I do the forum thing so I could have easily mis read.
02-08-14, 02:42 AM
#15
Um, guys, end play has nothing to do with lapped irons. End play is set by the thickness of the thrust assembly only. Not sure how making irons thinner than they should be affects the needle bearings in the thrust assembly in any way.
cfamilyfix, I don't remember saying that but I can predict what will happen. On first startup your engine will smoke. A lot. Then it will continue to smoke for a while. Then the smoke will start to reduce until it is almost gone. Then at some point, maybe after a year or two, but depends on mileage, it will begin to smoke on startup again. This is the end result of lapped irons.
During this time you will also experience reduced compression and harder starts from accelerated wear of the side seals and corner seals. Fortunately however the now leaky oil seals will artificially and temporarily raise compression during cranking for easier starts, but then you have that smoking problem I mentioned.
Upon teardown almost nothing will be reusable. All side seals will be junk. All corners junk. All oil seals junk. All springs should be chucked due to increased heat from higher friction of the soft iron surface. The rotors themselves probably wouldn't be any good after all that. I've had to throw the rotors away in many lapped engines I've torn down. Mostly Hayes. Junk. The rotor housings are usually hit or miss, interestingly enough.
You basically can't win with lapped irons. The only people who do gain something are those charging money for it. Crooks.
Lapping should just never be done at all on our modern nitrided irons. If you paid someone to lap your irons, you would have been better off buying good used ones. But this thread isn't about that, now is it. This is about how awesome your rotary powered GLC is.
cfamilyfix, I don't remember saying that but I can predict what will happen. On first startup your engine will smoke. A lot. Then it will continue to smoke for a while. Then the smoke will start to reduce until it is almost gone. Then at some point, maybe after a year or two, but depends on mileage, it will begin to smoke on startup again. This is the end result of lapped irons.
During this time you will also experience reduced compression and harder starts from accelerated wear of the side seals and corner seals. Fortunately however the now leaky oil seals will artificially and temporarily raise compression during cranking for easier starts, but then you have that smoking problem I mentioned.
Upon teardown almost nothing will be reusable. All side seals will be junk. All corners junk. All oil seals junk. All springs should be chucked due to increased heat from higher friction of the soft iron surface. The rotors themselves probably wouldn't be any good after all that. I've had to throw the rotors away in many lapped engines I've torn down. Mostly Hayes. Junk. The rotor housings are usually hit or miss, interestingly enough.
You basically can't win with lapped irons. The only people who do gain something are those charging money for it. Crooks.
Lapping should just never be done at all on our modern nitrided irons. If you paid someone to lap your irons, you would have been better off buying good used ones. But this thread isn't about that, now is it. This is about how awesome your rotary powered GLC is.
02-08-14, 11:17 AM
#17
In the snow its pretty much the same as any one's RX7...after the 10 days of commuting in it we go blasted with more snow. White knuckle driving experience all the way home 37 miles. I was so wound up after making it home that I took it to the local mall empty parking lot and decided to have some fun in the snow with it. It was a blast and just what I needed. On the 11th day my fuel pump finally gave up the ghost, but that was fine since I fixed the civic and was able to use my daily again.
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