tandolla

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I'm going down this friday and i am racing a Honda Civic Hatch. v-tech of course just so we know what our ars can do. im stripping rear intieror. and i dont know what else i should do. i got like 3-4 hundred miles on a new oil change running moible1 5-30w. oil. and intake and 4 puck clutch... what else should i do im not going to be running either AC or PS belts. .. and bad struts all the way around. ( not bad but not good ) should i run on normal or sport sus.? i will also have strut tower bars if that helps my launch at all.? ( probly not but you never know ) .... ? Any suggestions to help me beat a honda .. he is running stock b16 jdm besides intake. he said he should be running 15 to 15.1 track time. and i should be running 15.4 .... PLZ i dont wanna lose to a honda.!! lol .......... !!!!

ANY REPLYS anythihng little!!!!! !

KompressorLOgic

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if u dont have an exhaust system, then id unbolt yr exhuast?? u could remove your whole cat back, that will add some hp and remove about 55 lbs from the car , and not be toooooo loud,

Built GXL

wut does the civic have done, honestly most civics r slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

MWMburton

but quick, that civic weights 2,000lbs. and with that b16 its around 140-160 hp and practically negative tourqe. the thing has and immense amount of top end, even more than a rotary. i'd say it'll be close but im pullin for you cause rotaries = ten times better than a honda and 5 times better than anything else, thats my bias.

Built GXL

mitch, u know civics r slow, look at starbucks, 95% of them r slow, sure u have ur semi-built b16's here, and ur turbo d15's there, but run of the mill civic=slow

Drift_Kid

lol a stock b16 and hes thinking he gona run a 15.1!?!?! more like a 16.2 but you never know. and with you being NA you should be running a high 15. and have you draged befor and know what rpm to launch at? do you have an LSD? if so you should take him from the start. but if you dont have an LSD, then weld your diff. and it'll be like a full locker/2 way LSD. find some nice tires and lower your psi to 20. get some race gas. and you should walk away from him.

ninjaracing13

no race gas no race gas, find the shittiest gas you can find, its an n/a and they run better with quicker burning, lower octane fuel go get some arco 87

also, if you got time, switch to an e-fan. seems to make the car rev a little free'r with less parasitic loss of the clutch fan. careful with dropping the air pressure too low because what you gain on the lauch you'll lose on the top end. also, max out the front tire pressure so there is less loss from having to roll the front wheels

Upgrayedd

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Well just so all of you know you are SERIOUSLY under-estimating a Cicic hatch with a B16... With an AVERAGE driver it would run a low 15, high 14... With a good driver (which this owner IS) mid to low 14's. And the internals are not stock, so who knows it could be a low 14's car. Nothing drastic, but it does have a few extra goodies in the HEAD. Tandolla you WILL lose if this is the yellow/black hatch I am guessing it is. Trust me I know this kid and the guy who does his engine swaps/building is a personal friend of mine who I used to work with for 3 years as well... He's got a turbo D16 hatch that runs mid/low 13's. Sorry guys, the N/A doesn't have enough to beat a DOHC hatch....

Icemastr

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You are telling us a civic with a JDM 1.6L DOHC Vtec motor swap and an intake is almost as fast as an FD? I think people talk a lot of crap about times their cars could do when they hear about someone on an Internet forum who has been drag racing for a long time get a quick time. If you know the owner of this car and he has actually gotten a mid or low 14 with the exact setup he drives around normally then thats different. Good tires even in the 14 second range can make a huge difference as well. Just like a lot of FD owners with an ECU, intake, exhaust, and intercooler say their cars can run high 10s low 11s. This race sounds like a drivers race to me. Sounds like the cars are similar HP numbers with him probably having the edge in weight which sounds like a drivers race. If you can launch good try and make it a shorter race and you will have a better chance with RWD. Other than that add some nitrous if you are seriously worried.

bstrange99

How about this thought? Don't worry, just race. It's not like you're throwing down on "pinks". You have the same chance of winning as the other guy. I really hope you don't think you'll never lose a race. Losing isn't shameful at all, even to a honda. It is, however, a good way of evaluating your car, and your skill. start at the bottom, lose a few races if you need to, and keep working at it. From the sound of nervousness in your post, I'm thinking you should be more focused on racing against your previous runs, and previous skill.
My .02 cents

Upgrayedd

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IF it is the guy I know YES his car has run mid 14's... And you can't compare HP numbers to make an accurate estimate of who's gonna win. Just cuz one car has more HP doesn't mean it's gonna win. When will people realize that.... If HP matters why would my 97 Acura Integra LS beat Type R and GSR Integras of the same years?? Sure they have more HP but what if they can't drive?? Or what if their HP is all top end... Or bottom end? Too many factors. My opinion is based off of my knowledge and observations which makes it MY opinion. A mid 15's N/A won't beat a mid to low 14's hatch. It's that simple. Who would be to the end first? 15.6 or 14.4??

BTW I've never heard an FD owner say thier FD runs 10's, unless it actually does! Most FD owners are "ricers" as most people would call them... Now if you were to say that a hatch owner says his car runs 10's that would be more believable that he'd be saying something stupid.

TOOSHORT_88

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I went on a Rx7 cruize last summer all TII's and one fd, and we met up with some honda's later on... 95 hatch b16 kept up with fd rolling launch though...
About ideas???
go on a diet
race in whitie tidies to save weight...
shave your head to save weight
start your car then take out battery will run off alternator..
remove reinforsement bar fron and rear ..
take out everything but 1 seat
remove hatch to save weight(might get a little nippily in whitie tidies might want to go with a man thoong instead)
I can go on but i am laughing my *** off.....
seriously you will loose against a stock b16 vs na rx7

saltyslug

depends on the hatch also, the earlier 88-91 are light. my friends with a b16a runs high 14's with a slippin clutch and 17's. he also has a header and wide open exhaust(sound familiar??) and all msd ign. don't forget about the trannies with them either, cheap lsd, short ratio gears, and you can pound the living **** outta them. with a good driver that swap is easily putting them in the low-mid 14sec range. better make sure that block says b16 also cause the gsr engine looks exactly the same and is even more powerful. just know what your up aginst. do the e-fan and exhaust and drop your clutch like you mean it and you will be close.

whats funny is my auto 626 with 11-12 lbs of boost and stock chip can still own him. its really close but I always have a car or two on him.

RLG DESTROY U

I hope he wins. I wonder what happened? Good luck dude!!

F0RSAKEN

The FD should run mid to high 13's stock. As for the chances of winning this, a stock JDM b16 should be making ~160hp/125lbft or so, which is roughly equal to an FC N/A, except the FC weighs 300-400lbs more than the hatch. Assuming equal driver skill, or more likely the civic driver having more skill, and equal tires, the civic is gonna walk all over the RX.

Kouta

edit: I fail.
Anyways, just go out there and beat him :3