A good sized percentage of oil sold in the northwest comes from the midwest, the refineries for Chevron, Tesoro(Which refines Shells oil there), and ConocoPhilips are all in Salt Lake City and pipe the oil into Pasco. The vast majority of oil from Alaska is shipped out of the country for profit and other complicated reasons. When the Exxon Mobil merger happened they had the chance to bring a lot of Alaska's oil to the United States and they didn't. I think you are confusing China with Japan as Japan has fairly strict pollution controls, the terrible air quality was back in the 70s.

15-20% of the U.S. Oil production from the gulf is what I have been hearing from my oil company reps. Very little of it reaches this side of the United States, however they now need to have oil shipped from our region to makeup for their huge lack of production.

 

As of yesterday, Most of Kitsap County is $2.73 ish for 87 and $2.93 ish for 92. I'm sure its higher today...

 

This is starting to affect my drinking.

 

Lol


2.85 in Corvallis, OR for 87

3.05 for 91

 

Anyone know why the shell station is consistently 10 cents less than ANYWHERE else? I'm thinking that the shell corp gets all of its gas, or most of it, from some other rig/s than the one that was affected by the hurricane, thus the prices the stations pay the suppliers aren't really changed much at all. But then because everyone else raises prices, they can too, what are people going to do about it? By raising it but leaving it 10 cents less still, they get all the customers and make even more profit because they were able to raise prices so high.

Anyone have an opinion? Does that make sense? I'm kinda curious...

 

2.87 at shell for reg, but every other station is 2.97 or 2.99

 

shells gallons are smaller????

 

Shell gallons have more water?

 

No, Shell its great, but they have a little more sulfer in the gas. Doesnt matter though, you'll just be smelling it out of the exhaust since a cat. can't filter it.

Cheveron is the best by far.

Texaco, I havnt seen many around.

Arco has more water than than Lake Washington has fish.

 

 

Hrm. didnt realize i put two than's :\

 

The station owners don't set thier own prices on gas. They typicaly make a profit of 1.5 to 3 cents per gallon. Generaly they don't even own the pumps. So in reality, they're actually losing money from the increased prices. They make thier money from inside sales, someone fills up, decides they want a candy bar and a soda, etc... So the less they spend at the pump, the more they spend in the store. If you spend $26.00 filling up your 7, chances are you're going to go in and buy that bag of chips for .99 cents. While you're in thier you'll see some kind of little stick that goes on your key ring that has some cool lights on it, and what the hell, it's only 3 bucks. But if you spend $40.00 filling up the same car, you're just going to get in the car and drive away, stressing about how much money you just spent on gas.
If the united states were to go one day without purchasing any fuel, it would have a staggering effect on the gas industry, and would force them to lower prices just to recover from the blow.

 

So I understand that gas production is down. So what about all the drivers in the gulf coast who aren't buying gas because their car is wrecked or under water?

The media helps push the price up by telling us gas is going up so everyone goes out and fills up their tanks........creating the shortage.

It's all a huge scam. Im just going to buy as little as I can. The gas companies are worse than the looters.

 

EXACTLY!...Don't believe the Hype!

 

While you may not believe the hype the price's are going up none the less.

 

premium 92 3.00 here in olympia 9-6-05

 

I wonder if any of us will be driving our 7s to the next izzy's meet?! I want to drive mine but it costs 40 to fill it up and I get about 275 miles to the tank (13 gallon tank). Not bad mileage for a carbed 1st gen but I only get that good of mileage because pretty much all of my driving is freeway. Really getting hard to sell it now with everyone needing fuel efficient vehicles.

 

I actually bought the thing because it gets better mileage than my 65 Fairlane or my 62 T-bird, the two other options that I had.

Plus it doesn't need premium.

I buy all my gas on Ft. Lewis, it is at least about 10c a gallon cheaper (for now).

 

Screw it, I am actually looking for a a tdi jetta wagon, If I can find one with a 5 spd it will be close to 50 mpg. So thats my plan for now. With an auto closer to 45, but its way bigger than a metro and it can run on french fry oil if i want. That gas price as greating pretty *** in mi ing sp, I was filling up for 55 dollars in jan and yesterday i spent 90 dollars at the same gas station.

 

Shell stations are not consistently 10 cents less than anywhere else. Shell's wholesale price to stations is the same in proportion to other major brands as it was before the hurricane. They have been affected by the hurricane as well, the shell stations are not making high profit by getting all the customers. How do I know this? My family owns 3 shell stations and hauls the gas for all the company direct sold shell stations in Washington.

No shell's gallons are not smaller.

No they do not have more water. Shell V-power has 5 times more additives than is required by federal law. Shell gasoline is rated as a Top Tier fuel by major auto manufacturers as well as Chevron and ConocoPhilips. Arco and Tesoro are not rated top tier fuels. Chevron was the first to be rated a top tier fuel.

Chevron is definitely at the top for fuel but I wouldn't consider shell any worse. Texaco was purchased by shell, the rights to the brand were purchased by Chevron so Chevron could sell gas through gas stations in areas that already had Chevrons. All the old Texacos lost their contracts and had to rebranded (Deadline was by January 2006 so you still see some old ones). New Texacos are starting to be brought up by Chevron.

Arco gasoline has the minimum additives required by federal law and the maximum alcohol allowed.

Station owners do set their own gas prices. They also own their own pumps (unless they are financing or leasing equipment or property in which case a bank does) Prices are based off their competitors in the area, the volume they have to do to fulfill their contract, and their purchase price of gasoline from their brand. When gas prices go up the gas stations and distributors are hit hardest. Gas stations will try and keep their prices low in order to maintain their volume so the whole market usually trys to stay down despite rising costs. You are correct that most gas stations operating profit comes from inside sales, however at our stores when prices go up we see little decrease in inside sales from lack of money. The decrease in sales will come from raising our prices too high above our competitors which brings less people to our stores. Gas stations do not typically make a profit of 1.5 to 3 cents. In order for a convenience store to give you a decent return on the amount of money invested you need to make over 10 cents per gallon just to make it worth the investment. With the current gas prices it costs 10 cents per gallon just to run a credit card which accounts for 65% of all our gas sales through our stations. Wholesale prices at the racks for Pasco, Seattle, Moses Lake, and Spokane are all around $3.00 for the major brands right now, plus there are the costs of hauling etc. Most of our stations are sellign at cost or close to it now meaning they are losing .10 per gallon right now on credit card purchases but if we raise our prices we will have a significant cut in volume since none of our competitors are moving up and we will lose our rebate from Shell or Chevron since we recently rebanded many of the stores and hurt our inside sales.

Believe what you want but gas usage in the gulf has experienced a very small decrease in gas consumption if any. The Southwest is a very large area, only a very small percentage of the population is without their vehicles.

 

Right...........I heard on the news today that gas consuption was down 4% over the last week............thats why the price is only up $.40/gal. I still remember last year when $1.50/gal was high.

 

I know... I would kill to have to pay that price again... but I don't see that happenin' any time soon. With those gas prices I filled up my old 3/4 ton truck for $45, and that was for a 35 gallon tank.

 

Hell, I can remember when gas was $0.84 a gallon for 2 weeks, two years ago. It's only going to get more expensive from now on.

 

hell. i can remember when gas was $0.24 a gallon (min wage was $1.35). the big pain in the butt will be when the price starts dropping and WA state starts adding gas tax (since you dont notice it cause you're so happy the price is dropping!)

 

All because of that stupid monorail project within Seattle.