Power FC Tuner in Oregon/Washinton?
08-22-18, 11:30 AM
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Power FC Tuner in Oregon/Washinton?
I searched but most threads were outdated.
Looking to get my FD tuned in the next month or so. Currently have a Power FC that I want to get tuned. Is there anyone specific in the area that does good PFC tuning for rotaries and knows what they're doing?
Looking to get my FD tuned in the next month or so. Currently have a Power FC that I want to get tuned. Is there anyone specific in the area that does good PFC tuning for rotaries and knows what they're doing?
08-27-18, 02:12 AM
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I recently went to Lawrence over at INTEC racing in Kent, WA. I was in the same predicament after my v-mount + new twins were all together. He did a great job and walked me through the whole process while I was there!
09-04-18, 12:47 AM
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No problem at all! To answer your question, I'm not sure about anyone located in the Portland area. I know Pineapple Racing is located around there, but I'm unsure if they do any sort of tuning. I have a few friends that live around the area though, so I'll ask around tomorrow and see if I get any info! I'll reply on your thread if I do.
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12-19-18, 10:08 PM
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This thread is almost two months old but to answer questions about the Portland area - PSI! Portland Speed Industries. Home - Portland Speed Industries
I have no affiliation with them, but they've tuned many Formula Drift, etc cars over the years and are well renowned in Washington. I would definitely trust them over Intec. They will 100% do PowerFC's.
U.P. Garage in University Place will also tune rear wheel drive cars using PowerFC but I can't say they specialize in rotaries, they're more of a Nissan shop. However, they deal with a little bit of everything. PSI would be my first stop.
I have no affiliation with them, but they've tuned many Formula Drift, etc cars over the years and are well renowned in Washington. I would definitely trust them over Intec. They will 100% do PowerFC's.
U.P. Garage in University Place will also tune rear wheel drive cars using PowerFC but I can't say they specialize in rotaries, they're more of a Nissan shop. However, they deal with a little bit of everything. PSI would be my first stop.
03-03-19, 11:46 AM
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I have a car that NEEDS to be done by a competent trustable known good rotary specialist IMO.
Have they done any group dynos as of late?
Would there be enough interest to get someone that knows what they are doing to come in and help sort the cars people want tuned correctly the first time?
Generally speaking we only needed ~5-10 people to make it viable before when we had Steve Kan come in IIRC
Is there enough people to even think about bringing someone good in?
Any interested people? Enough to even Start considering something like that?
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03-03-19, 07:51 PM
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im not sure if traveling tuners even do that any more? now days remote tuning is all the rage on more modern systems like the adaptronic.
Ive just been tuning my own car with the PFC my self these days, but would probably be interested in having a professional look it over once I get into higher boost and power levels.
what all is done to your car 101?
Ive just been tuning my own car with the PFC my self these days, but would probably be interested in having a professional look it over once I get into higher boost and power levels.
what all is done to your car 101?
03-04-19, 11:14 AM
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I second forcefed for anything rotary. Local tuners might be a little tough, my first stop would be finding Marc Hendrix, or spyder on here and see if he would touch it or have any suggestions. I’ve got a buddy that used to do it for a living but he only does his car and a couple of close friends now.
03-07-19, 04:59 PM
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What information would you desire to know?
Relevant details I think:
Fuel pump Bosch DSC03279
Base fuel pressure:38-40 Psi
Still have fuel temp sender active
No airpump
Double throttle removed
Using Chucks/Raymonds idle setup instructions with ISC and idle IGN control
MSD 6A ign amp
Pineapple large street port
850 primaries
1680 secondary with resistors
Steve Kan tuned map
Apexi 3 bar MAP sensor
Apexi boost control solenoid
IAT relocation, moved to right after IC outlet
GT35R 1.06 AR
Vmount IC
DP with O2 at end, RX7 Store/magniflow resonator midpipe,Racing Beat dual tip
I have kind of been away from the car for awhile...too long TBH, so forgotten quite a bit.
I think its a beautiful car that is built fairly well mechanically, but I just have zero confidence with the tuning despite spending a lot of time reading about it and trying unfruitfully.
I need first hand help.
If you can help, I am asking for help, even if only to locate capable help.
Last edited by rotarypower101; 03-07-19 at 05:58 PM.
03-07-19, 10:00 PM
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wow pretty nice car! how much boost are you running?
I had tuned my car with the twins, after slowly adding mods, and am working on tuning it with the 7670EFR now, just using a conservative timing map, and then tuning the A/F very conservative too, just aiming for something that wont blow up, vs a lot of power.
I had tuned my car with the twins, after slowly adding mods, and am working on tuning it with the 7670EFR now, just using a conservative timing map, and then tuning the A/F very conservative too, just aiming for something that wont blow up, vs a lot of power.
03-18-19, 03:44 PM
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wow pretty nice car! how much boost are you running?
I had tuned my car with the twins, after slowly adding mods, and am working on tuning it with the 7670EFR now, just using a conservative timing map, and then tuning the A/F very conservative too, just aiming for something that wont blow up, vs a lot of power.
I had tuned my car with the twins, after slowly adding mods, and am working on tuning it with the 7670EFR now, just using a conservative timing map, and then tuning the A/F very conservative too, just aiming for something that wont blow up, vs a lot of power.
I have been to multiple different people and for whatever reason it just has not been completed. Its literally the last step to make this car something I think is special.
It needs to run well, and restore some of the “production car” usability.
TBH I care very little for the power figure,I think I have all the parts to make it a cohesive “drivable/streetable car” with a comfortable usable power band, I would like to have the AFR tuned to increase/maximize allowable safe steady state cruising MPG and eliminate “any”/most all hydrocarbon smell. I want it to run reliably for any weather condition and remove many of the just plain silly quirks to the car currently.
Like it fooding if the correct startup procedure is not strictly adhered to. Or even on shutdown it will flood itself if not attended to correctly. Even things like finding a way to keep the idle at a low RPM without artificially inflating it because certain stimuli will allow the idle to dip too far for seemingly no reason, killing the engine.
Almost all my desires are of usability, and I just have not found anyone that can tell me what to do with that ambition or how to accomplish that aspiration.
I put a lot of time into trying to do it alone reading and following others advice, but that just isnt enough apparently, I need first hand help from someone that gets it, and knows how to do those things.
If you have any advice, I could really use some help!
08-19-20, 05:13 PM
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Old thread, but did you ever decide on a tuner in the PNW area? I'm converting to a single turbo and will need a tune very soon, but cannot figure out where to take it.
We have a few really good piston engine tuners around here like PRE and Surgeline, but no one that is experienced with rotaries. Only other option I see is remote
tuning, but the one I've been looking at (tuned by shawn) will not be cheap AT ALL when all is said and done.
$75 start-up map
$220 EGT setup with innovate thermocouple amp and cheap sensors (required by this tuner)
$500 Full power tune
$500-700 Dyno rental depending where you have it done
$500 Because I don't own a laptop.
$1350 Adaptronic ECU (required by this tuner)
_______________
$3145 Total
$2445 If I can sell my PFC for like $700
That's a lot of money for a tune, especially with what I have already spent on a turbo kit and fuel system....
We have a few really good piston engine tuners around here like PRE and Surgeline, but no one that is experienced with rotaries. Only other option I see is remote
tuning, but the one I've been looking at (tuned by shawn) will not be cheap AT ALL when all is said and done.
$75 start-up map
$220 EGT setup with innovate thermocouple amp and cheap sensors (required by this tuner)
$500 Full power tune
$500-700 Dyno rental depending where you have it done
$500 Because I don't own a laptop.
$1350 Adaptronic ECU (required by this tuner)
_______________
$3145 Total
$2445 If I can sell my PFC for like $700
That's a lot of money for a tune, especially with what I have already spent on a turbo kit and fuel system....
Last edited by atm0706; 08-19-20 at 06:30 PM.
08-19-20, 07:48 PM
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I ended up tuning my own car because of lack of options for a professional tune. It worked out very well because I can now make adjustments for new mods. Datalogit, wideband, yahoo/google tuning group, FC tweak, and this forum have all been very helpful for getting a solid tune. I figure blowing the motor is just as likely with me tuning it as anyone local. I've ran seq twin, non seq twin, and now a 7670 efr. I'm not sure that self tuning is for everyone but if your motivated you can definitely learn. You do accept some risk doing this of course.
Ryan
Ryan
08-30-20, 07:21 PM
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Old thread, but did you ever decide on a tuner in the PNW area? I'm converting to a single turbo and will need a tune very soon, but cannot figure out where to take it.
We have a few really good piston engine tuners around here like PRE and Surgeline, but no one that is experienced with rotaries. Only other option I see is remote
tuning, but the one I've been looking at (tuned by shawn) will not be cheap AT ALL when all is said and done.
$75 start-up map
$220 EGT setup with innovate thermocouple amp and cheap sensors (required by this tuner)
$500 Full power tune
$500-700 Dyno rental depending where you have it done
$500 Because I don't own a laptop.
$1350 Adaptronic ECU (required by this tuner)
_______________
$3145 Total
$2445 If I can sell my PFC for like $700
That's a lot of money for a tune, especially with what I have already spent on a turbo kit and fuel system....
We have a few really good piston engine tuners around here like PRE and Surgeline, but no one that is experienced with rotaries. Only other option I see is remote
tuning, but the one I've been looking at (tuned by shawn) will not be cheap AT ALL when all is said and done.
$75 start-up map
$220 EGT setup with innovate thermocouple amp and cheap sensors (required by this tuner)
$500 Full power tune
$500-700 Dyno rental depending where you have it done
$500 Because I don't own a laptop.
$1350 Adaptronic ECU (required by this tuner)
_______________
$3145 Total
$2445 If I can sell my PFC for like $700
That's a lot of money for a tune, especially with what I have already spent on a turbo kit and fuel system....
I would love to find someone that can be accessed locally to have their way with it so it runs like a production car and optimists fuel mileage, it has plenty of power…just needs to be refined with drivability and reliability.
I have read all the datalogit group posts…just fail at every attempt to modulate small topics in the way they outline them. And if I can’t get the small details right, I have little hope for the larger ones without making a mess and paying to learn the hard way.
Right now it has a Steve Kan tune from the last group dyno session in Oregon, it works…but TBH it is quite rough around the edges, nothing was dialed in, it has all the classic issues and none of the refinements and smoothed over edges that make it a delight to drive. Even the starting sequence is a lottery if started warm, backfires frequently at certain throttle inputs, tune seems temperature dependent, heavy unburnt hydrocarbon fumes and general unrefinement to the response to throttle input…
If anyone has any ideas I would really love to get some help with this specifically locally if possible, I really would like it massaged into a great running state. Fairly confident the hardware is not the issue in any way, just needs someone that knows how to smooth out the niggles.
Do the Pineapple boys deal in tuning at all, or have advice with that? I assume they are still around? Seems like thew last time I looked them up they might have moved shop down the street closer to Marine Drive?
08-30-20, 11:26 PM
#22
This is them I take it?
https://www.intecracing.com/services
Clearly I will be calling them to find out more details, however do you know if he explicitly has worked with PFC and 13BREW?
08-30-20, 11:51 PM
#23
Yup - that's them.
Lawrence personally owns an FC and tunes a lot of rotaries on PFC.
Here's one of the more famous rotary cars that INTEC has tuned.
1989 Mazda RX-7 GTX - What Would the White Comet Look Like Today?
Lawrence personally owns an FC and tunes a lot of rotaries on PFC.
Here's one of the more famous rotary cars that INTEC has tuned.
1989 Mazda RX-7 GTX - What Would the White Comet Look Like Today?
09-07-20, 06:36 PM
#24
Old thread, but did you ever decide on a tuner in the PNW area? I'm converting to a single turbo and will need a tune very soon, but cannot figure out where to take it.
We have a few really good piston engine tuners around here like PRE and Surgeline, but no one that is experienced with rotaries. Only other option I see is remote
tuning, but the one I've been looking at (tuned by shawn) will not be cheap AT ALL when all is said and done.
$75 start-up map
$220 EGT setup with innovate thermocouple amp and cheap sensors (required by this tuner)
$500 Full power tune
$500-700 Dyno rental depending where you have it done
$500 Because I don't own a laptop.
$1350 Adaptronic ECU (required by this tuner)
_______________
$3145 Total
$2445 If I can sell my PFC for like $700
That's a lot of money for a tune, especially with what I have already spent on a turbo kit and fuel system....
We have a few really good piston engine tuners around here like PRE and Surgeline, but no one that is experienced with rotaries. Only other option I see is remote
tuning, but the one I've been looking at (tuned by shawn) will not be cheap AT ALL when all is said and done.
$75 start-up map
$220 EGT setup with innovate thermocouple amp and cheap sensors (required by this tuner)
$500 Full power tune
$500-700 Dyno rental depending where you have it done
$500 Because I don't own a laptop.
$1350 Adaptronic ECU (required by this tuner)
_______________
$3145 Total
$2445 If I can sell my PFC for like $700
That's a lot of money for a tune, especially with what I have already spent on a turbo kit and fuel system....
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09-07-20, 06:38 PM
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This is them I take it?
https://www.intecracing.com/services
Clearly I will be calling them to find out more details, however do you know if he explicitly has worked with PFC and 13BREW?
https://www.intecracing.com/services
Clearly I will be calling them to find out more details, however do you know if he explicitly has worked with PFC and 13BREW?