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Old 09-11-07, 12:11 AM
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pilot bearing woes

ok so i killed my clutch in my t2, now im replacing everything and as i was taking the flywheel nut off, every time i turned the nut a pilot bearing-bearing rolled out lol, well so i call a shucks and they cant get me a pilot bearing removing tool, they dont even have one in whactom county , so anybody in the bellingham area have one that would be willing to let me use it for 5min and get my car back on the road.
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if you have a grease gun and a bolt your in bussniess all you do is fill the piolt bearing with greast and give the bolt a light tap in the center hole of the bearing and the grease will push it out
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hmm i might just have to try that, thanks
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Originally Posted by rotary-guy
ok so i killed my clutch in my t2, now im replacing everything and as i was taking the flywheel nut off, every time i turned the nut a pilot bearing-bearing rolled out lol, well so i call a shucks and they cant get me a pilot bearing removing tool, they dont even have one in whactom county , so anybody in the bellingham area have one that would be willing to let me use it for 5min and get my car back on the road.
Use a dremel tool with a cutting bit and just cut through the pilot bearing in two places--maybe 5 millimeters apart. Then use a flat-head screwdriver and bend your now "horse-shoe" shaped pilot bearing so that you can grab one of the "cut" ends with needle-nose pliers. Just start twisting and rotating the pilot-bearing until it's loose enough to wiggle out of there. Either that, or make another cut in it and just remove it in several peices. Make sure to use some compressed air and a twisted rag to clean out the 'hole' before gently tapping a new one in there.
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Just as an FYI, the Mazda Pilot Bearing tools are finally becoming available again after a long drought. One order took 6 months to receive, because we wiped out Mazda's North American supply and they had to have more made in Japan. However, things appear back to normal now. We have half a dozen spares, even after filling all the back-orders.
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i bought a tool from united auto electic in bellingham and it worked great, but now i have everything back together and im trying to get my tranny on but it will not mate to the motor, it gets pretty much there and then nothing, me and my room mate could not even get it to mate after 3hrs under the car, so if anybody has any ideas on that i would like to hear them lol.
thanks for all the advice so far
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Originally Posted by rotary-guy
i bought a tool from united auto electic in bellingham and it worked great, but now i have everything back together and im trying to get my tranny on but it will not mate to the motor, it gets pretty much there and then nothing, me and my room mate could not even get it to mate after 3hrs under the car, so if anybody has any ideas on that i would like to hear them lol.
thanks for all the advice so far
Remove the clutch disk from the engine and attempt to slide just the removed disk over the imput shaft (with the tranny out from under the car). There's a chance that the spline-teeth on the clutch are either damage or might actually be the wrong size, thereby allowing the teeth to mate... If the disk alone doesn't slide smoothly onto the imput shaft--then you're basically screwed.

What brand is your clutch disk?
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no pilot bearing tool to pull it out use water newspapper and a hammer

If you don't have a tool you can try the grease 1st like kapn krunch say and if it dosn't work get bucket of water news paper hammer too.What you have to do is get the news paper wet and push abid at a time in to the hole were the pilot bearing sit ever time you push it in use the hammer to hlep pack the news paper tighter and tighter and your piolt bearing well pop off. Please let me know too if try my way it work or not.I never try it befor but i have see some one in Thailand do it and it did pop out. Hope this hlep good luck .
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the brand is exedy, with a act flywheel if that matters also lol, but im gonna do what you said erik just to be sure but i took the allingment tool and slid it in the old disk with no problem so i dont know
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the brand is exedy, with a act flywheel if that matters also lol, but im gonna do what you said erik just to be sure but i took the allingment tool and slid it in the old disk with no problem so i dont know
Believe me, the plastic allignment tool won't tell you as much as metal on metal... I know from experience what you're going through. Let's just hope yours actually works--I've got an unused 6-puck disk sitting here at my house because the fitment of the spline was too tight, and the company I bought it from refused to refund my money.... They wanted me to ship it back to them (on my own dollar) and then give them $30 to pay for return shipping. This was so they could "inspect" it, to tell me if they were going to replace it. I just cut my losses and said screw them.

They had basically packaged a no-name clutch disk with an ACT P/P and sold it as an "ACT clutch-setup!"... Bastards.
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i took the disk off the car and it fits on the tranny splines without a problem, now im just waiting to try it again but due to time and needing another person to help lift and guid im not too sure when ill have it in lol
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Gonna take a wild guess that your retainer ring got popped in as you were trying to shove it in. it can happen very easily if you are not aware exactly how it works or if you have not dealt with it before. That or you did not use a spline adjustment tool correctly when tightening the PP.

Ideally if you line it up and the engine is sitting level with the plane of the tranny, the thing will typically just fall right in and the “hard” part is getting the alignment pins to push into the rear plate.

I know its simple to just say its “easy”, but when everything is done correctly you really shouldn’t have to fight it that hard.
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[QUOTE=rotarypower101;7335641]Gonna take a wild guess that your retainer ring got popped in as you were trying to shove it in. it can happen very easily if you are not aware exactly how it works or if you have not dealt with it before. That or you did not use a spline adjustment tool correctly when tightening the PP.

Ideally if you line it up and the engine is sitting level with the plane of the tranny, the thing will typically just fall right in and the “hard” part is getting the alignment pins to push into the rear plate.

I know its simple to just say its “easy”, but when everything is done correctly you really shouldn’t have to fight it that hard.[/Q

retainer ring? i dont know what that is
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got it in, everything works, grippy *** clutch lol hells yeah, been out putting miles on it
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