NINjaX7

man... it's a long but awesome story, erik, garrett, steve, jason, would you like to start off?

kettlman

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you guys done all ready? that didn't last long.

now give up the goodies!

NINjaX7

I posted this up on my myspace page about an hour ago, this is what happened, i didn't name anyone though. It was really fun even if we didn't street race, which was kind of a dumb thing to do. Go ahead and start the flames right after:

So I posted a thread on the RX-7 forum to meet up with rx-7 locals for a friendly cruise for the afternoon. I decided that we should meet up at alderwood mall and plan things from there. There we were in the parking lot, one by one the 5 of us showed up. Three 2nd generations two white and one flat black, and two 3rd generations, my red 7 and a stock red 7, all turbo'd except one FC.

We roll out at and head towards alki beach via highway 99. Along the way we stop at the sears parking lot (which is the overflow parking lot for shoreline), and some of the guys decide to drift. One dude was doing 360's or what seemed to be, while i was nubbing it up just sliding around. We roll back out and now we're on aurora hauling *** on the roads. We entered the tunnels and hauled more *** going 90 through the tunnels, sounds pretty cool when all you hear is engine and blow off valve echoing off the walls.

At this point we're on the west seattle bridge heading towards alki. It was pretty damn crowded and there were a lot of people just rollerblading and riding bikes, virtually stuff i normally wouldn't do on my spare time. We hit a random turn and start speeding through back roads for a while. When we finally decided to rest, we hit up a viewpoint/park with a perfect site of the seattle skyline, and there was a group of honda kids. A couple guys stepped up and didn't believe that we had 1.3 liter twin turbos. So one guy challenged our crew, their fastest car versus, our slowest one (yeah nice challenge there). While they were assuming that I was the slowest since i had an automatic, I step up and take the offer. I agreed but only under my conditions, 40mph rolling start.

I'd say there were about 12-14 cars in all heading towards the "racing spot". Turns out it was meridian street on alki, a ******* public 40mph road. I move to the front of their pack to take on their "fastest" car. We hit the emergency lights and count to three while doing a rolling 40mph. I floor it and he takes on me first by a quarter car length, i start moving ahead of him, but my dumbass forgot to shift to the higher gears. i hit the rev limiter and he moves ahead of me, i shift up and now we're going about 125+ and the passing lights are literally straight horizontal lines. I take on him and move ahead. Looks like I won bitch, but not by much, i still give props to a hatch with a GSR swap for keeping up. Nearing the stoplight a cop pulls out behind us and me and him split ways. I get stuck at the light and think i'm done for, but luckily the cop decides to go for the hatch since it's loud as ****. I'm saved once again and probably the luckiest **** in the world. We all move to an industrial area and park there. While everyone else leaves, me and the rx7 crew stay behind and drift in the parking lot. After a little while, a cop turns on the blue and reds and we book it into an alley/business area and hide behind a taurus station wagon, yup our cars were that small to fit out of view from the entrance angle.

Upon leaving, the only guy that decided to leave early to head back home for tacoma ended up being pulled over. He took one for the team and got a $202 ticket for doing a circle at an intersection, bullshit claim. Overall, the night was good and ended it with some potato chips, and poker. Now i'm watching conan sitting on the couch, and tired as hell.

KompressorLOgic

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nice sounds fun, i woulda like to came, but i tried to change my brakes and and they went metal on metal so bad that it ate threw allmost half the rotor, so that ones toasted to a crisp. then i got really dizzy and allmost passed out tring to change them. i so figured i shouldnt do anything and get more rest. but im up again...

Icemastr

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http://www.scca.org

http://www.bscc.net

http://www.wwscc.org

http://www.ssscc.org

http://www.nwr-scca.org

Not gonna chastise you but if you want to have fun with your car heres some links.

vice

...damn

kettlman

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or you can do DONUTS on the freeway coming back from apple blossom. ha ha ha

ddub

Wow, you guys are smart.... Good to know you're going 125+ on public 40mph streets, I'll be sure to steer clear of your dumb ***.

kettlman

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what a dick response. if you don't like what you read, let it be. for being a mod you should realise that.

NINjaX7

hey thanks for the defense kettlman, it's cool though, everyone is entitled to their opinion. plus i did say start the flames. it was a public street but there were absolutely no cars in sight for the whole time i ran, it was the area where it was all warehouses on the side. probably a 1 and a half mile stretch with 1 or 2 cars going the other way while we were just cruising? but it makes no difference, what's done is done i can't change the past.

ddub

Aren't you a parent? For being a parent you should fear people doing stupid **** like this on public streets, yet you find it funny and seem to not care. Fine, that's your perogative and you can think what you want, but so can I. That's the thing with a public forum, if you're going to post on it you must be prepared to hear varying opinions and responses. I have my opinion, and everyone else has theirs. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean I have any less right to voice my opinion, especially when they're doing illegal **** like this.

Lately I have been ignoring the things I "don't like" but when I read stupid **** like street racing and endangering other people that these events can create, then I give an opinion. So what if one of these cars had killed someone, would you still be saying not to comment just because someone doesn't like it?

Oh well, like I said, you have your opinion and I have mine.

And me being a mod has nothing to do with this section. I'm a mod of a technical section, the Regional sections are more like lounges really with also meet info/events. Take a trip over the rx7club lounge and you'll see my post is mild compared to what some of those people do, seriously.

And I wouldn't get into any rule breaking/mod game here, if you think I'm breaking any rules (not sure if that's what you were implying, and I don't believe I am) than you are in no position to talk.

CODE BLUE 2

If your going to post something on these lines then be prepared to be bashed on. I think all of us have done some pretty stupid stuff in our time. (I know I have). I tend to agree that going those high speeds in an area such as the alki area, or any public area is not smart and in my opinion also stupid. Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion unless it becomes a huge ordeal. This is not a place for a flame war or a place for arguments especially when it becomes disrespectful towards another forum member, or a moderator. A moderator’s job is tough. There have been tons of times I’ve wanted to voice my personal opinions, but have refrained, because of my job. Our main goal here is to keep the peace and try to get along with one another.

13bpower

It was a good night.

People can cry about what other people do all they want. Won't change anything. Bring on more flames! I think its funny when people argue on the net. Sorry in advance if I don't answer anyones flames to my post, but I have better things to do.... like having a life.

Call you noobs later.

dr.jones63

Thats cool, one of my best friends from HS and me used to drive crazy back in the day. Fast forward 25 yrs and my friend son crashes his 95 z28 doing 100mph in a 25 and both of his buddies are now dead and my friends honor role, never in trouble son is incarcerated and won't get to graduate this year.

Opps, I forgot it's live for the moment. Personally, I prefer not having regrets.

Good luck

kristopher_d

Well, if you have a sports car that always does the speed limit, please sell it to someone who'll appreciate it. Speed limits are for Speed Tax Collection, not safety. Good judgement is for safety. No harm, no fowl. Honestly, if safety were the concern when it came to making speed limits, there'd be a dozen different limits posted along the highway, with different limits for different classifications of cars. Some cars are unsafe at even 60mph on the freeway, while most of our cars are perfectly safe at 100+. Get off your high-horses and go drive.

13bpower

Word to your mother.

ddub

How do you know you're safe? Maybe your not, maybe next time you try going 100+ you'll kill someone. How would you feel then?

I keep my speeding for the track; I have no reason to go 100 on the street.

That being said, I've said this before and I'll say it again. There are people I knew from my high school that died doing stupid **** like this that had the same mentalities as you, and they were not driving Hondas or anything like that, they were driving "sports cars." They also killed an 80 year old man in the process too. The only one that survived is now doing 7 years in jail.

How about you get off your high horse and realize there are speed limits for a reason, and you are not invincible? I can't stop you, and you're going to do what you want, but you sound like you think you can do whatever you want, whenever you want, with no repercussions and think nothing bad can come of it.

kettlman

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well, talking about high horses.........

obviously your friend did not know what he was doing. the mentality you are thinking of is not the reasons your friends didn't know how to drive. thats good that you feel that way, then we won't have to worry about you losing control and wrecking your car. as for some of us. well i am invincable. thats that. kris did tell you the reasons for speed limits. you can think what you want, but if it was for your reasons that you think. well every state would have the same speed limits across america. it's not like that. when i drive i know what my car can do and what i can do. if i get in a wreck and kill somebody, well then i will have to deal with the consenquences. hasn't happened and won't. yes i may be full of myself and seem conseded. but don't let my confidence fool you. i love speed. thats why i don't buy a street bike. cause i know i can hurt myself on one if not someone else. so i stick with the car. not as fast and quick. but i can control it much better and have no fear that what i do is not safe.

ddub

How exactly do you know though? How do any of you know if you are truly that good of a driver or that invincible? I'm not trying to badmouth anyone, but thinking you can do no harm and nothing negative will come from your actions is just poor judgement. Anything can happen to anyone, no matter how good or bad they think they are at driving. A little kid chasing a ball off the sidewalk in the city or something similar could easily happen. Are you going to be able to stop from going 100+ or swerve safely and not hit them? Maybe you can, and that's at least good to know.


Yes but they are similar across the country, and very few places, like Montana, have no speed limits in certain areas and that's only at night.


Once again that's great, and I'm not trying to badmouth you or anyone here, but any minor slip-up or slight hesitation, and that can all change. Yes if you kill someone you'll have to deal with it, but what about the family of the person you killed? Or the children if it was a parent? Or the parents if it was a child? You're not the only person that would have to deal with it, everyone that loved that person would too, and they'll never get them back after that.



Maybe some of you don't understand why I make such a big deal out of this stuff every time there is a street racing or similar thread. Well, how many of you have actually dealt with a death or injury or jail time of a friend (or yourself) from stuff like this? The people that still do it I'm going to guess none of you, but I could be wrong. I've seen way too much **** with cars and friends to every do anything stupid, and I guess I just have a biased opinion, but I'd rather be safe.

- When I was 13 one of my best friends' brother was killed by some street racers while he was crossing a crosswalk, those people were never caught or found.
- When I was 15 a person at my school got killed by someone speeding while walking on the side of the road, that person went to jail.
- Senior year of HS some people I knew (like described earlier) were street racing. Two drivers, one passenger in each car. They crashed into an ~80 year old man while going over the crest of a hill, he died, the driver/passenger of one car died, the passenger of the other died, the girl (who was 16 at the time) is now serving time in jail.
- My father has totalled 4 cars in my life, ONCE while I was inside of it.
- My father lost control and went off a cliff in his car, he survived thankfully.

It's probably because I've experienced all of that that I have these point of views. I would just rather not die, kill someone, or crash. Maybe it wont happen, I'm not a bad driver by any means and I have control over my cars, but I just don't want to risk it at all. I keep my fast driving for tracks and for going onto the freeway. Yes I speed on the freeway, but the most I'll go is 70-80 and I'll soon back off to 65-70. I just have no reason to go faster than that on public streets or the freeway.

My sports car is for a good/fun ride. I speed up very fast a lot and get to 35-40 fairly quickly on 35 mph streets, but I wont go any faster after I reach the speed limit. My thrill with my sports car isn't seeing how fast I can go for top speed, but it's seeing how fast I can accelerate from a stop, that's what gets my adrenaline going. Handling is a big thing for me too, and with my suspension I enjoy taking turns faster, but still in the legal limits, than normal cars.

Maybe I'm too conservative, I don't know, but those are my beliefs and I doubt they'll change.

kettlman

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so going 5 over the speed limit is OK? i understand your beliefs. alot of people are the same way, thats why they drive slow cars. nothing against them. but just cause somebody said they raced somebody. doesn't mean they are a dumb ***. thats what gets me the most, dick responses. so my hypocritical *** replies with another dick response. now if somebody always drives like that everwhere he goes. well the power of numbers is going to kick in. yes track driving is fun. but how fast can you get on a track. unless it's a real huge one. i've figured there are 2 types of people who buy sports cars. those who like to drive, and those who think the cars will make them look cool. everything shows in the end.

ddub

No its generally not okay which is why I try to not do it, but it is a lot better than 100-125+ :|

Sorry if it seemed like a dick response, but there are so many people in the world that have this "Fast and the Furious" mentality nowadays and think it makes them "cool" that when I read **** that sounds like it, which the original post extremely did, then I get annoyed and say something stupid like that. It's stereotyping, and stereotyping is human nature, without it we would have problems in every day life. However, sometimes stereotyping is bad when it is exagerated negatively and used a a metonym (truth) for that person/individual/idea, which I wasn't trying to do but sometimes it's hard.

And I think there are a lot more than 2 kinds of people that buy sports cars honestly, it all just depends on taste.

CODE BLUE 2

Well I guess Im one of those "get off my high horse peoples too" and will have to agree with Drew on this one 110%. Doing speeds of 100+ in an area such as alki just shows no common sense whether you know your car or not. So guess I should sell my car cause I don't drive it 120 miles an hour on Alki beach or in heavily populated areas. Its all good till you hit a kid on roller skates. As for driving a bit crazy....I have no problems driving a bit wild away from areas that are not so heavily populated, heck even on the freeway from time to time.

Rotortuner

[QUOTE=NINjaX7]

I'd say there were about 12-14 cars in all heading towards the "racing spot". Turns out it was meridian street on alki, a ******* public 40mph road. I move to the front of their pack to take on their "fastest" car. We hit the emergency lights and count to three while doing a rolling 40mph. I floor it and he takes on me first by a quarter car length, i start moving ahead of him, but my dumbass forgot to shift to the higher gears. i hit the rev limiter and he moves ahead of me, i shift up and now we're going about 125+ and the passing lights are literally straight horizontal lines. I take on him and move ahead. Looks like I won bitch, but not by much, i still give props to a hatch with a GSR swap for keeping up. QUOTE]


Sounds to me like you did the classic ricer flyby on him, thats always cool. Did you make sure and turn your hazards on too? Thumbs up to you. Whatever...

CJG

Derekcat

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I guess this really ought to be more of a question of location..

"screw around all you want outside of town, or on the freeway"
something like that...

I don't screw around in city... Except for like dDub said:
" I speed up very fast a lot and get to 35-40 fairly quickly on 35 mph streets, but I wont go any faster after I reach the speed limit."

There's no reason to go faster when you're still in city, too much junk in the way anyway...

wdwflash

Having been an EMT in years past kind of makes me not want to spread my guts all over the highway. The first time you come up on a dismembered body is an experience you will never forget. I like to go fast, but I also don't like to pay half my income on insurance or give it to some hospital. Fortunatly I live just a few miles from Bremerton raceway and can go there when I need a speed fix and not try to kill some elses children on the highway. Street racing is for chumps and wanabe racers. Theres a time and place for everything. If you want to break the speed laws, take it out into the boonys where the only one your going to splatter all over the highway is yourself. (It takes a lot longer for the meat truck to get to you though.) If you drive a first gen RX7 could you sign a donor card so I can have your parts when you splatter.