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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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ok listen to ME! when on the freeway the turbo IS NOT FULLY SPOOLED, this is when the NA will pull. and the guys racing had probably the heavier tII n the other had the 1990 gtu-s, there is lag when the turbo is not fully spooled!
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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There is now way a stock NA would even challenge a stock TII. I don't care if it was from a dead stop or at freeway speeds. Stock TIIs have no real lag at stock boost pressure. Nice find with the GTUs! Clean it up and keep it stock, other than rims and coilovers.
the GTUs has a 4.3 geared rear end which gives it great gearing advantage over all other FC models.

if you have never felt the benefits of a final drive / gear change then you need to find a way to try it for yourself.

its impressive what a small change in gearing can do.

definitely keep the GTUs as close to stock as possible!
lightweight suspension choice and lightweight wheels too, that way you can improve the two things a stock GTUs needs and keep with the lightweight theme for maximum performance gains.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MWMburton
ok listen to ME! when on the freeway the turbo IS NOT FULLY SPOOLED, this is when the NA will pull. and the guys racing had probably the heavier tII n the other had the 1990 gtu-s, there is lag when the turbo is not fully spooled!
brake-boosting will spool up a turbo on the highway for maximum boost at laucnh no matter the MPH, so if the turbo-car knows how to drive then the race is overrrrrrrrrrrr.

but for a split second decision to race, there is no replacement for N/A displacement
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 02:02 AM
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ya the diffirent gear ratio is insane..
5th gear has lots of power...
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 04:06 AM
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yah, this is what im talking about. just cause ur on the freeway doesnt mean ur full spool, so if the guys a noob to turbos or doesnt expect this guy to gun it he's gonna get pulled on.
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 12:09 AM
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Thinkin of sellin my car.
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 03:05 AM
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$1800?
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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the gtu-s? y?
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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I have my vert , and truck
i also have 88 gxl for sale real nice
The Gtu's is not being sold just yet i gotta clean it up and wash it and have her detailed then i will sell....
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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keep it, its soooo rare. if i had the money and a place to put it id buy it.
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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Ya its rare and all (thats why i bought it) not what i want. I want the s/5 TII with leather seats power windows. i drove her last week (GTU'S) and man she can handle ... this car would eat my vert or gxl in corners no prob, and my gxl has kybs and springs...
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 02:54 AM
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damn man, i wish i had the chance to pick up your ride at the deal you got.
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MWMburton
ok listen to ME! when on the freeway the turbo IS NOT FULLY SPOOLED, this is when the NA will pull. and the guys racing had probably the heavier tII n the other had the 1990 gtu-s, there is lag when the turbo is not fully spooled!
Dude, have you ever even driven a turbo car? Ya, if Im on the freeway in fifth doing 55, and just floor it, Im gonna get beat by anything. If Im racing something, say an NA FC, Im gonna slam it in third. THe highway is where turbo cars ARE fast. You see, when I put it third, or fourth, on the highway, Im at like 4 grand or so, instantly making full boost. Im gonna RUN away from that NA. You got a good deal on that car, but dont get no misconceptions that its fast. NA FCs, in stock form, are slow. You aint gonna keep up with a TII, or much anything else. Just keep it stock and drive it. Or TII swap or whatever.
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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Tanjo
Dude, have you ever even driven a turbo car? Ya, if Im on the freeway in fifth doing 55, and just floor it, Im gonna get beat by anything. If Im racing something, say an NA FC, Im gonna slam it in third. THe highway is where turbo cars ARE fast. You see, when I put it third, or fourth, on the highway, Im at like 4 grand or so, instantly making full boost. Im gonna RUN away from that NA. You got a good deal on that car, but dont get no misconceptions that its fast. NA FCs, in stock form, are slow. You aint gonna keep up with a TII, or much anything else. Just keep it stock and drive it. Or TII swap or whatever.
I never said it was fast i just said could handle....
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Tanjo
Dude, have you ever even driven a turbo car? Ya, if Im on the freeway in fifth doing 55, and just floor it, Im gonna get beat by anything. If Im racing something, say an NA FC, Im gonna slam it in third. THe highway is where turbo cars ARE fast. You see, when I put it third, or fourth, on the highway, Im at like 4 grand or so, instantly making full boost. Im gonna RUN away from that NA. You got a good deal on that car, but dont get no misconceptions that its fast. NA FCs, in stock form, are slow. You aint gonna keep up with a TII, or much anything else. Just keep it stock and drive it. Or TII swap or whatever.
to answer ur question, yes. yes i have driven a turbo car b4 and it was fast, very fast. but what i was saying around 2 or 3 months ago was that when ur crusing on the freeway (stay with me) ur not at full boost. and crusing is not a 4k in 5th, crusing is like 2500 in 5th with light throttle. this is where the na has a major advantage. besides like i said earlier as well the gtu-s is LIGHT! lighter than a TII, espeacially a s4 tII (i think it was the 89 or 90 that weighed 3200 curb weight).
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 12:09 AM
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How can you say na fc's are slow? If you can find a good fc thats all original they and in problem free condition are very quick . People who say na fc's are slow must have gotten one that was beat and tired motor, or motor was rebuilt. Most of these rotor heads that rebuild there own motors dont know what they are doing .
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 04:50 AM
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Im not knocking FCs, but to me, a stock NA fc is not fast. I like FCs, would love a TII. Even a well sorted NA for autox use. But, all of my cars, my FB, my 5.0 fox, probably even my 323 would beat one. I know my FB would walk away from one, my fox would run away from onw, and my 323 shitbox would at least keep up with one, if not pull on it a little. In my book, 14.5 1/4s is where cars start to be 'fast'. My FD is 'fast'. My fox was 'fast'. My FB and 323 were 'quick'. An NA fc is a 'spirited drive".
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 05:30 AM
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any change on the deal tooshort? hahaha.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Tanjo
Im not knocking FCs, but to me, a stock NA fc is not fast. I like FCs, would love a TII. Even a well sorted NA for autox use. But, all of my cars, my FB, my 5.0 fox, probably even my 323 would beat one. I know my FB would walk away from one, my fox would run away from onw, and my 323 shitbox would at least keep up with one, if not pull on it a little. In my book, 14.5 1/4s is where cars start to be 'fast'. My FD is 'fast'. My fox was 'fast'. My FB and 323 were 'quick'. An NA fc is a 'spirited drive".
Please tell me your 323 is boosted or is heavily modified. If not, there is no way you can "keep up" with a healthy NA FC. I've owned several 323s (boosted or otherwise) and NA FCs.

People continue to claim that GSL-SEs are faster than NA FCs simply because they "feel faster".

NA FCs are not fast, but they are by no means slow (unless we're talking about automatics or 'verts).
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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Ya, it was a stock 88 GT. And I never raced an FC in that car, but judging on races against FCs in my other cars, I would estimate it would keep up.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 05:34 PM
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Ya, it was a stock 88 GT. And I never raced an FC in that car, but judging on races against FCs in my other cars, I would estimate it would keep up.
Cool, I had an '88 GT a couple of years ago. I sold it for an '88 GTX.

I somewhat agree with you, off-the-line and through the lower gears a GT could hang with an NA FC but the B6T runs out of power pretty quickly on the top end. Not to mention the fact that a GT has the aerodynamics of a brick LOL.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Tanjo
Im not knocking FCs, but to me, a stock NA fc is not fast. I like FCs, would love a TII. Even a well sorted NA for autox use. But, all of my cars, my FB, my 5.0 fox, probably even my 323 would beat one. I know my FB would walk away from one, my fox would run away from onw, and my 323 shitbox would at least keep up with one, if not pull on it a little. In my book, 14.5 1/4s is where cars start to be 'fast'. My FD is 'fast'. My fox was 'fast'. My FB and 323 were 'quick'. An NA fc is a 'spirited drive".
ok one thing real quick ok. the fc's (na) can go very fast it may take a while but my buddy sold his and the guy who got it was in a high speed pursit and was going 140 plus! yah, slow i dont think so. and i own a fb it may be a lil tired but it is semi quick in the right situation but a na fc would beat it. and the 323, it being completley stock would get whooped, i use to pull on my buddys 323 in my fb b4 he got exhaust, granted it was on the touge when this was going on. na fc's aint slow by any means but they arent the fastest car u can get of course. but again not slow, espeacially a gtu's ok!
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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Your freinds 323 is either NA, or he cant drive, cause a GT or GTX put out 130hp, and the GT weighs around 2200#s. Gearing is short and lag is not an issue. As stated above, they are quick off the line, once you get traction.


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Cool, I had an '88 GT a couple of years ago. I sold it for an '88 GTX.

I somewhat agree with you, off-the-line and through the lower gears a GT could hang with an NA FC but the B6T runs out of power pretty quickly on the top end. Not to mention the fact that a GT has the aerodynamics of a brick LOL.
Ya, I REALLY didnt want to sell it, but I had too. It was just sitting in my dads driveway, while I was at Basic and tech school. I finally gave him the go ahead to move it, and he sold it for 800 bucks to some guy who had no idea what it was. It kills me to know that its probably blown up or wrecked by now, and Ill probably never have another like it. At least I got my money outta it, and then some. I bought it from a kid I worked with who had no clue what it was for 600 bucks. LOVED that car.
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Ya, I REALLY didnt want to sell it, but I had too. It was just sitting in my dads driveway, while I was at Basic and tech school. I finally gave him the go ahead to move it, and he sold it for 800 bucks to some guy who had no idea what it was. It kills me to know that its probably blown up or wrecked by now, and Ill probably never have another like it. At least I got my money outta it, and then some. I bought it from a kid I worked with who had no clue what it was for 600 bucks. LOVED that car.
Sounds a lot like my experience complete with immediate seller's remorse!

I picked my GT up for $750 and drove it everyday for a year and a half. Then I decided I wanted a GTX and sold the car to my little sister's boyfriend for $1000. He had no idea what it was and drove the sh** out of it before selling it for a loss. I'll probably never come across another GT, I WISH I STILL HAD THAT CAR!
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 12:51 AM
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Your freinds 323 is either NA, or he cant drive, cause a GT or GTX put out 130hp, and the GT weighs around 2200#s. Gearing is short and lag is not an issue. As stated above, they are quick off the line, once you get traction.




Ya, I REALLY didnt want to sell it, but I had too. It was just sitting in my dads driveway, while I was at Basic and tech school. I finally gave him the go ahead to move it, and he sold it for 800 bucks to some guy who had no idea what it was. It kills me to know that its probably blown up or wrecked by now, and Ill probably never have another like it. At least I got my money outta it, and then some. I bought it from a kid I worked with who had no clue what it was for 600 bucks. LOVED that car.

yah its na and im not sure if its a gt, i know for a fact its not a gtx cause fwd but it is definatly under 2200 lbs. yah and its quick but i beat him in top end and from there i was gone. one second he was on my *** and in around 3 he was considerably further. and i dont think he'll have a problem with traction, it has exhaust and it has like 15's with 205's or somethin on them he hooks up everywhere.
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