Check it out! 1989 GTU's
ok listen to ME! when on the freeway the turbo IS NOT FULLY SPOOLED, this is when the NA will pull. and the guys racing had probably the heavier tII n the other had the 1990 gtu-s, there is lag when the turbo is not fully spooled!
Originally Posted by 2887s
There is now way a stock NA would even challenge a stock TII. I don't care if it was from a dead stop or at freeway speeds. Stock TIIs have no real lag at stock boost pressure. Nice find with the GTUs! Clean it up and keep it stock, other than rims and coilovers.
if you have never felt the benefits of a final drive / gear change then you need to find a way to try it for yourself.
its impressive what a small change in gearing can do.
definitely keep the GTUs as close to stock as possible!
lightweight suspension choice and lightweight wheels too, that way you can improve the two things a stock GTUs needs and keep with the lightweight theme for maximum performance gains.
Originally Posted by MWMburton
ok listen to ME! when on the freeway the turbo IS NOT FULLY SPOOLED, this is when the NA will pull. and the guys racing had probably the heavier tII n the other had the 1990 gtu-s, there is lag when the turbo is not fully spooled!
but for a split second decision to race, there is no replacement for N/A displacement
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I have my vert , and truck
i also have 88 gxl for sale real nice
The Gtu's is not being sold just yet i gotta clean it up and wash it and have her detailed then i will sell....
i also have 88 gxl for sale real nice
The Gtu's is not being sold just yet i gotta clean it up and wash it and have her detailed then i will sell....
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Ya its rare and all (thats why i bought it) not what i want. I want the s/5 TII with leather seats power windows. i drove her last week (GTU'S) and man she can handle ... this car would eat my vert or gxl in corners no prob, and my gxl has kybs and springs...
Originally Posted by MWMburton
ok listen to ME! when on the freeway the turbo IS NOT FULLY SPOOLED, this is when the NA will pull. and the guys racing had probably the heavier tII n the other had the 1990 gtu-s, there is lag when the turbo is not fully spooled!
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Originally Posted by Tanjo
Dude, have you ever even driven a turbo car? Ya, if Im on the freeway in fifth doing 55, and just floor it, Im gonna get beat by anything. If Im racing something, say an NA FC, Im gonna slam it in third. THe highway is where turbo cars ARE fast. You see, when I put it third, or fourth, on the highway, Im at like 4 grand or so, instantly making full boost. Im gonna RUN away from that NA. You got a good deal on that car, but dont get no misconceptions that its fast. NA FCs, in stock form, are slow. You aint gonna keep up with a TII, or much anything else. Just keep it stock and drive it. Or TII swap or whatever.
Originally Posted by Tanjo
Dude, have you ever even driven a turbo car? Ya, if Im on the freeway in fifth doing 55, and just floor it, Im gonna get beat by anything. If Im racing something, say an NA FC, Im gonna slam it in third. THe highway is where turbo cars ARE fast. You see, when I put it third, or fourth, on the highway, Im at like 4 grand or so, instantly making full boost. Im gonna RUN away from that NA. You got a good deal on that car, but dont get no misconceptions that its fast. NA FCs, in stock form, are slow. You aint gonna keep up with a TII, or much anything else. Just keep it stock and drive it. Or TII swap or whatever.
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How can you say na fc's are slow? If you can find a good fc thats all original they and in problem free condition are very quick . People who say na fc's are slow must have gotten one that was beat and tired motor, or motor was rebuilt. Most of these rotor heads that rebuild there own motors dont know what they are doing .
Im not knocking FCs, but to me, a stock NA fc is not fast. I like FCs, would love a TII. Even a well sorted NA for autox use. But, all of my cars, my FB, my 5.0 fox, probably even my 323 would beat one. I know my FB would walk away from one, my fox would run away from onw, and my 323 shitbox would at least keep up with one, if not pull on it a little. In my book, 14.5 1/4s is where cars start to be 'fast'. My FD is 'fast'. My fox was 'fast'. My FB and 323 were 'quick'. An NA fc is a 'spirited drive".
Originally Posted by Tanjo
Im not knocking FCs, but to me, a stock NA fc is not fast. I like FCs, would love a TII. Even a well sorted NA for autox use. But, all of my cars, my FB, my 5.0 fox, probably even my 323 would beat one. I know my FB would walk away from one, my fox would run away from onw, and my 323 shitbox would at least keep up with one, if not pull on it a little. In my book, 14.5 1/4s is where cars start to be 'fast'. My FD is 'fast'. My fox was 'fast'. My FB and 323 were 'quick'. An NA fc is a 'spirited drive".
People continue to claim that GSL-SEs are faster than NA FCs simply because they "feel faster".
NA FCs are not fast, but they are by no means slow (unless we're talking about automatics or 'verts).
Originally Posted by Tanjo
Ya, it was a stock 88 GT. And I never raced an FC in that car, but judging on races against FCs in my other cars, I would estimate it would keep up.
I somewhat agree with you, off-the-line and through the lower gears a GT could hang with an NA FC but the B6T runs out of power pretty quickly on the top end. Not to mention the fact that a GT has the aerodynamics of a brick LOL.
Originally Posted by Tanjo
Im not knocking FCs, but to me, a stock NA fc is not fast. I like FCs, would love a TII. Even a well sorted NA for autox use. But, all of my cars, my FB, my 5.0 fox, probably even my 323 would beat one. I know my FB would walk away from one, my fox would run away from onw, and my 323 shitbox would at least keep up with one, if not pull on it a little. In my book, 14.5 1/4s is where cars start to be 'fast'. My FD is 'fast'. My fox was 'fast'. My FB and 323 were 'quick'. An NA fc is a 'spirited drive".
Your freinds 323 is either NA, or he cant drive, cause a GT or GTX put out 130hp, and the GT weighs around 2200#s. Gearing is short and lag is not an issue. As stated above, they are quick off the line, once you get traction.
Ya, I REALLY didnt want to sell it, but I had too. It was just sitting in my dads driveway, while I was at Basic and tech school. I finally gave him the go ahead to move it, and he sold it for 800 bucks to some guy who had no idea what it was. It kills me to know that its probably blown up or wrecked by now, and Ill probably never have another like it. At least I got my money outta it, and then some. I bought it from a kid I worked with who had no clue what it was for 600 bucks. LOVED that car.
Originally Posted by Bluecoop91
Cool, I had an '88 GT a couple of years ago. I sold it for an '88 GTX.
I somewhat agree with you, off-the-line and through the lower gears a GT could hang with an NA FC but the B6T runs out of power pretty quickly on the top end. Not to mention the fact that a GT has the aerodynamics of a brick LOL.
I somewhat agree with you, off-the-line and through the lower gears a GT could hang with an NA FC but the B6T runs out of power pretty quickly on the top end. Not to mention the fact that a GT has the aerodynamics of a brick LOL.
Originally Posted by Tanjo
Ya, I REALLY didnt want to sell it, but I had too. It was just sitting in my dads driveway, while I was at Basic and tech school. I finally gave him the go ahead to move it, and he sold it for 800 bucks to some guy who had no idea what it was. It kills me to know that its probably blown up or wrecked by now, and Ill probably never have another like it. At least I got my money outta it, and then some. I bought it from a kid I worked with who had no clue what it was for 600 bucks. LOVED that car.
I picked my GT up for $750 and drove it everyday for a year and a half. Then I decided I wanted a GTX and sold the car to my little sister's boyfriend for $1000. He had no idea what it was and drove the sh** out of it before selling it for a loss. I'll probably never come across another GT, I WISH I STILL HAD THAT CAR!
Originally Posted by Tanjo
Your freinds 323 is either NA, or he cant drive, cause a GT or GTX put out 130hp, and the GT weighs around 2200#s. Gearing is short and lag is not an issue. As stated above, they are quick off the line, once you get traction.
Ya, I REALLY didnt want to sell it, but I had too. It was just sitting in my dads driveway, while I was at Basic and tech school. I finally gave him the go ahead to move it, and he sold it for 800 bucks to some guy who had no idea what it was. It kills me to know that its probably blown up or wrecked by now, and Ill probably never have another like it. At least I got my money outta it, and then some. I bought it from a kid I worked with who had no clue what it was for 600 bucks. LOVED that car.
Ya, I REALLY didnt want to sell it, but I had too. It was just sitting in my dads driveway, while I was at Basic and tech school. I finally gave him the go ahead to move it, and he sold it for 800 bucks to some guy who had no idea what it was. It kills me to know that its probably blown up or wrecked by now, and Ill probably never have another like it. At least I got my money outta it, and then some. I bought it from a kid I worked with who had no clue what it was for 600 bucks. LOVED that car.
yah its na and im not sure if its a gt, i know for a fact its not a gtx cause fwd but it is definatly under 2200 lbs. yah and its quick but i beat him in top end and from there i was gone. one second he was on my *** and in around 3 he was considerably further. and i dont think he'll have a problem with traction, it has exhaust and it has like 15's with 205's or somethin on them he hooks up everywhere.



