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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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Angry aaw Crap...Failed Emissions!

Tried to roll my newly purchased T-II through emissions this week. I thought it would be pretty easy, since my N/A had no problems passing with disintegrated pre-cats...
I got the car warmed up for 20 minutes or so on I-5, then rolled in only to be told that my idle was too high for the test to start. My RPM gauge was indicating around 800 RPM's, but the screen showed a consistent 1250-1350 RPM's. Can the RPM's really be off by 500 from indicated?
I was thinking Bulls**t, they must have the wrong setting...so they tell me to turn on the heat, the stereo, crank the wheel...all to no avail.
Finally, the lead dufus comes over hits a button and starts the test anyway.
The failing results were:
HC: Cruise Emissions= 450 (Limit= 160)
CO: Idle Emissions= 1.57 (Limit= 1.2)

The car has an RB exhaust, new plugs, filter and all fluids changed. The owner didn't have the car "Smog" ready for CA, but I didn't think this would be a problem up here.
I would be ready to pay the $150 to get a waiver, but I'm also looking to get connected with a top mechanic who can keep my new baby in top condition.

So does anybody know a place to go which knows rotaries and is emissions certified? I've tried calling Mark with Mt. Peak Automotive (has giving me great service in the past), but his number seems out of service...

Maybe I can make it to the meet down in Olympia next Monday, and get some more education on my ride...I must confess that I'm in the infancy stage in knowledge on modded turbos ;-)
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 11:12 PM
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Send a PM to Mark. Im sure he checks a few times a day.
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 11:35 PM
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what are these "emissions" you speak of?


























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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Gregs
what are these "emissions" you speak of?


























Better learn it. WA is trying to enact the california emissions laws/regulations for ALL areas in WA meaning that all counties will have to pass now, and it'll be stricter.
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by dDuB
Better learn it. WA is trying to enact the california emissions laws/regulations for ALL areas in WA meaning that all counties will have to pass now, and it'll be stricter.
oh well, im good for the next year

ive never owned an emissions passed vehicle, and ive owned 5 cars so far all registered etc..
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Gregs
oh well, im good for the next year

ive never owned an emissions passed vehicle, and ive owned 5 cars so far all registered etc..
Yah it'll still have the law for 25+ years means no test, so that's good. But they're trying to get this inacted by like 2007-8 or something, some chick was talking about it in one of my classes and I got pretty sad heh.

Guess I'll need to pick me up a 1st gen by then
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 12:23 AM
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i doubt it will happen, but you never know with this state
were you all aware about the petition to get rid of front plates (kinda off topic)
its looking priomising
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 12:29 AM
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Try this thread it should solve your problem. dDub' wrote it

https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/how-pass-emissions-state-no-visual-not-use-alcohol-404646/

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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 12:32 AM
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Yah it did, but if we adopt the cali emissions laws/regulations that means we'll have a visual too

All that'll do is just make me get even more creative


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Ahhh you edited ur post lol. Yah that thread I wrote worked awesome for our current emissions laws with no visual. It was simple but took some setting up and thinking by me, worked out well.

Now I just gotta hope the cali laws dont get enacted, damn visual >:|

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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by CODE BLUE 2
Send a PM to Mark. Im sure he checks a few times a day.
I'll try that, Thanks! I also found a second number- I'll give that one a try tomorrow...finally got a Friday off from work.
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by spokanerxdude
Try this thread it should solve your problem. dDub' wrote it

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=404646
Yeah, I'm somewhat new here but did have the smarts to first run a search and read through that thread. That's some great info...don't think I would want to go through all that pain just to pass emissions though.
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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I wonder if it would be possible to do a "complete body and engine swap" from a second gen to a first gen. Basically just rip off the vin plates and swap em. Then you could call your 2nd gen a 1st gen and get by on the 25+ yr rule.

I bet the people at the DOL would laugh at me, but I feel like trying it someday.
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Oxbrain
I wonder if it would be possible to do a "complete body and engine swap" from a second gen to a first gen. Basically just rip off the vin plates and swap em. Then you could call your 2nd gen a 1st gen and get by on the 25+ yr rule.

I bet the people at the DOL would laugh at me, but I feel like trying it someday.
Swapping VIN plates is completely illegal and if you're caught you'll get in trouble. Not only that but some of the VIN #'s on the car are stamped on the firewall and such.
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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they dont look at the car when you register it. i could be done but i wouldnt reccomend it...
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 02:39 PM
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what about all the logging trucks down in the southwest washington area or all the old ugly nasty v8 cars theat belch out more crap and 5 rotaries put together?
or you could do what my bro does find family or friends that live in non emissions counties and get the car registered there
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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Trucks/semi's/etc. kinda vehicles have different emissions regulations than normal cars, just like buses and diesel cars too.

As far as the "nasty v8" cars, they have to pass the same way as we do, so ask them.
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Oxbrain
I wonder if it would be possible to do a "complete body and engine swap" from a second gen to a first gen. Basically just rip off the vin plates and swap em. Then you could call your 2nd gen a 1st gen and get by on the 25+ yr rule.

I bet the people at the DOL would laugh at me, but I feel like trying it someday.
I use to work for a company that would send the same truck through with different plates each time to get all the delivery trucks to pass.when i started driving a bread truck i would give the tester a loaf of bread and they wouldnt even bother top hook up the truck.
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 12:27 AM
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A nice guy named Nate with Bothell Import Auto referred me to F & F Auto Clinic. He seemed to like my car and was quick to point out that he isn't an expert on rotararies, even though his Bridgeported FC was parked in their lot.
According to Nate F & F can handle emissions on rotaries, and could get me either passed or waived without having to sacrifice horsepower...I guess I'll find out soon enough.
Nate also mentioned that Import Autos rotary specialist Steve had passed away last year. I believe I have heard his name mentioned here in the forums before...
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