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Old Nov 3, 2011 | 10:38 AM
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Damn, I'm almost never at Cayuga since Sparta is only a 20 minute drive from my place.
What car do you have this summer I'll drive out to london
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Old Nov 5, 2011 | 10:31 AM
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FC, 13B 6 port, bridgeport, GT40R, 500 RWHP.

Next year I'll actually have some tire on the car at Sparta so I should be able to lay down some respectable times for the HP level. As opposed to mid 12s on 215s.
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
FC, 13B 6 port, bridgeport, GT40R, 500 RWHP.

Next year I'll actually have some tire on the car at Sparta so I should be able to lay down some respectable times for the HP level. As opposed to mid 12s on 215s.
I went 11.40 on a 225 what's your point
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by rx7joes
I went 11.40 on a 225 what's your point
My point was that I need tire at my power level to put down some respectable times. A 300HP 2nd gen with a set of cheater slicks is about as fast as my car in the 1/4 mile with my 215 all seasons. Your 1st gen is also a solid axle car.
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
My point was that I need tire at my power level to put down some respectable times. A 300HP 2nd gen with a set of cheater slicks is about as fast as my car in the 1/4 mile with my 215 all seasons. Your 1st gen is also a solid axle car.
Go to grannysspeedshop.com he offers suspension mods for second gens as well
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 09:28 AM
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Whoa, are you suggesting I put a solid axle in my 2nd gen? No way, I'm not big into downgrading cars. If I was building a pure drag car I'd definitely go that route but for an all around car that I want to toss through corners, use at the autocross, beat on at the drag strip and drive all the time, it's not an option. Since my car has RB springs, KYB AGXs and full poly bushings it already out handles me quite easily. Plus with a set of cheater slicks and a bit of squat dialed into the rear, I'd be in the high 10s (next spring...).

There were several mini-meets at Sparta last year and I assume we'll do the same thing this year. Hopefully you can make it down. There's another owner (AndyD on this forum) with an LS1 2nd gen.
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 09:49 AM
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well i think it would just be best to go with a 13B-t and modify that. just my 2 cents.
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
Whoa, are you suggesting I put a solid axle in my 2nd gen? No way, I'm not big into downgrading cars. If I was building a pure drag car I'd definitely go that route but for an all around car that I want to toss through corners, use at the autocross, beat on at the drag strip and drive all the time, it's not an option. Since my car has RB springs, KYB AGXs and full poly bushings it already out handles me quite easily. Plus with a set of cheater slicks and a bit of squat dialed into the rear, I'd be in the high 10s (next spring...).

There were several mini-meets at Sparta last year and I assume we'll do the same thing this year. Hopefully you can make it down. There's another owner (AndyD on this forum) with an LS1 2nd gen.
Sounds good is it a big meet
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Old Nov 12, 2011 | 10:30 AM
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It depends. If we actually organize one there's usually 8 cars or so. There hasn't been a London meet for a while so I'd think next year one should take place.
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 03:56 PM
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I let the OP drive my FB. Hes hooked. Old school rotary ftmfw.

Im gonna help him find an 84-85 SE and get him started on a similar build to AC's Cosmo projects 6 port.

Hes kinda a rotary n00b lol. I actually put the whole rx7 stuff into his head Such a terrible influence.
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 04:08 PM
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hmmmmm
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 07:56 PM
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4 rotor sounds intriguing
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 11:34 PM
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i think i wanna try and build a 4 rotor
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 02:43 AM
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lol a 4 rotor dang you jumped right past a 3 rotor. good luck running that let alone building it..

go for the turbo
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Slim13rx
i think i wanna try and build a 4 rotor
That being the case, head over to the 2nd gen forum builds subforum. There is currently someone building a 4 rotor. You'll see what's involved.

You don't need to do the same machine work he is doing if you buy a kit from Kiwi RE or similar, but the kit does cost $7,000 NZ last time I checked. http://www.kiwi-re.com/wwd_showroom_cat10_2.php . And you'll need to supply your own housings, rotors, seals, gaskets, irons, oil pan, dry sump, intake, exhaust, EMS, fuel system, etc. etc.

But really, why? How much power do you need? 400HP is easy out of a street ported 13B and a 400HP RX-7 is stupid fast. It's a 10 second car with traction. 600HP out of a 20B is fairly standard these days and that falls into the "insane" category for street cars. 4 rotor power levels go up from there, even NA.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
That being the case, head over to the 2nd gen forum builds subforum. There is currently someone building a 4 rotor. You'll see what's involved.

You don't need to do the same machine work he is doing if you buy a kit from Kiwi RE or similar, but the kit does cost $7,000 NZ last time I checked. http://www.kiwi-re.com/wwd_showroom_cat10_2.php . And you'll need to supply your own housings, rotors, seals, gaskets, irons, oil pan, dry sump, intake, exhaust, EMS, fuel system, etc. etc.

But really, why? How much power do you need? 400HP is easy out of a street ported 13B and a 400HP RX-7 is stupid fast. It's a 10 second car with traction. 600HP out of a 20B is fairly standard these days and that falls into the "insane" category for street cars. 4 rotor power levels go up from there, even NA.
400hp aint no ten second car you need 500hp and a 2500 pound car so aim a little higher and loose some weight because getting in to the tens ain't the easiest
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 02:53 PM
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Aaron Cake, you're seriously overestimating how much power an NA 4-rotor can make. Even the 787B only made 670 HP, and a build like that is far out of reach for most of us, and certainly wouldn't work in a street car. A better example is the Scoot 4-rotor, which allegedly makes 365 HP with a peripheral port 12A-based motor and a streetable exhaust system (it's unclear whether that's at the flywheel or at the wheels, but I'm assuming it's at the wheels). Which is about right considering the output of most street-driven p-port 12As. Still plenty fast, but it's not stupid power. Getting the same numbers from a 13BT is easy, with less weight and less cost.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 03:24 PM
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damm it thats such a good ? i was think about that same thing two nites ago dont get me wrong im a rotorhead till i die. but a 2nd gen rx7 with a ls1 will be ur answer keep it in mind.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 08:03 PM
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yeahh uhm deff a no for the v8 ideas that just ruins the car..I'm havin my buddy help me decide and my main build is gonna be around the SE. Thanks AC for the info.
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