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Old Mar 8, 2016 | 07:28 PM
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To turbo swap s4 na or to rebuild

I am aiming for a dd and weekend play car max HP goals 300 far far future but my question is to reach my goal is it better and more cost affective to t2 swap? Or is the na capable of that kind of power? Would it be in the same price range as it would take a t2 to make that power?
My motor is obviously on its way out hoping it lasts another year
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Old Mar 8, 2016 | 09:07 PM
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Honestly, all of these questions have already been answered ad nauseam on the forum, but here is the simple answer.

You're not going to hit 300whp with an NA 13B easily. It takes large bridge ports, or peripheral ports. Not a daily driven type of build at all, and it takes 9000rpm to get that power.

It's honestly easier and cheaper to just buy a T2. You will hear this answer many times over. It is not cheaper to do a T2 swap correctly, than it is to just buy one and proceed from there. Many have tried the cheap route and have ended up spending WAAAAY more than they expected. With a T2 swap, expect to rebuild whatever engine you get your hands on, unless it came from a running, driving car you saw with your own eyes that also has good compression.

Here is a link to a site that breaks down the simple way to 300 whp. The whole site is very valuable for information. Some of the info is outdated (like using a FCD), but for the most part it's a useful guide. FC3S Pro v2.0: From Mild 2 Wild - Power


Do some research. Search the forums. Check out some build threads, then get to work on your project and plan. Good luck.
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Old Mar 8, 2016 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ACR_RX-7
Honestly, all of these questions have already been answered ad nauseam on the forum, but here is the simple answer.

You're not going to hit 300whp with an NA 13B easily. It takes large bridge ports, or peripheral ports. Not a daily driven type of build at all, and it takes 9000rpm to get that power.

It's honestly easier and cheaper to just buy a T2. You will hear this answer many times over. It is not cheaper to do a T2 swap correctly, than it is to just buy one and proceed from there. Many have tried the cheap route and have ended up spending WAAAAY more than they expected. With a T2 swap, expect to rebuild whatever engine you get your hands on, unless it came from a running, driving car you saw with your own eyes that also has good compression.

Here is a link to a site that breaks down the simple way to 300 whp. The whole site is very valuable for information. Some of the info is outdated (like using a FCD), but for the most part it's a useful guide. FC3S Pro v2.0:Â* From Mild 2 Wild - Power


Do some research. Search the forums. Check out some build threads, then get to work on your project and plan. Good luck.
That's literally all I wanted to know and thsbks for the advice about rebuilding the swap so those good deals for blown seal t2 motors would be best bet? I've read a lot about the na to turbo l, that's why I chose s4. I am lead to believe it is not to bad for someone with mild experience to do the s4 t2 harness merge.
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Old Mar 9, 2016 | 10:04 PM
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Getting a blown engine is so hit and miss. You never know exactly what is wrong until you break the engine open. Sometimes it needs seals. Sometimes it needs rotor housings. Sometimes it needs everything from plates, housings, rotors, and bearings. That is why I recommended you buy a running T2 instead of swapping.

Yes, the S4 harness merge is slightly easier, but then you are dealing with old wiring that may be good. It may be bad. Most people recommend to just get a standalone for a swap into an NA chassis because the harness may be no good. Most JDM import engines have been sitting for years and were probably pressure washed by a kid making $0.12 a day, so it may not even be good for a core.
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