RX7Turbo19

I currently have power in the ignition, all the way to that white plug on the coil, but the coil isnt throwing a spark to the spark plug. Also my starter hasnt even kicked in when trying to turn the car over. Yes I am getting voltage outta the B/R wire on the ignition. Yes on the circuit open relay that spliced wire ran to a B/W wire.

RX7Turbo19

Yes i am currently getting all power thru the ignition all the way to the white plug on the coil in the picture i showed you earlier. The wire that was spliced and rewired onto the black box was rewired to a B/W wire.

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Looking at the clearer pic I provided do you have/had the Red wire connected to the B/W wire that is next to the Blue wire in the relay? Yes or no? Also,it's best to ask all questions and or supply info in this thread so it is all in one place rather then going back and forth between private messages and this thread. Also other members need to see this to learn from or voice their opinion. Correct me if I'm wrong but in some pics the Red wire is connected on both ends and in others it is only connected on one end. Is this accurate?

EDIT: There are two B/R wires in the ignition switch. One is in a two wire plug along with the Blue wire which you have provided pics of. Is this the B/R wire that you say has voltage? This B/R wire should have voltage w/key to on. The other B/R wire is in a plug all by itself and has voltage with the key to "start." This B/R wire is part of the starting circuit and it needs to have voltage on it w/key to start to get the starter to turn over. There are other wires involved in this start circuit for this B/R wire does not go directly to the starter solenoid, but it begins here on this particular B/R wire. Does this wire have voltage w/key to start or not?

RX7Turbo19

The red wire was connected from the bigger gauge B/R on the ignition to the B/W wire that was cut on the black box.. The wire snipped on the black box is beside another B/W wire and on the other side of the snipped wire is Blue/R. Yes the wire has voltage when the key is turned to "on".

satch

iTrader: (1)

Clarification: You're saying the B/W that was spliced into on the relay is located on the top row far left. Yes or no?

Does the B/R wire that has its own plug in the ignition switch have voltage w/key to start. Yes or no?

RX7Turbo19

Top row, middle wire that was spliced into. Yes, the single B/R wire does get power when turned to start. Also, If I dont try to start the car for a bit, when I turn the key from lock to on i get a buzz now then thats it and it wont do it for awhile.

satch

iTrader: (1)

The top row middle B/W wire should have voltage w/key to on. Does it?

Top row far left does this wire (either B/R or B/W) have voltage w/key to start?

Does your car have the factory alarm or not?

RX7Turbo19

yes top row B/W wire does have voltage when key is on.

top row far left is B/W and has voltage with key to start

yes car does have factory alarm

satch

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This is good news! One last thing dealing with the Circuit Opening Relay. Lets see if your fuel pump is working if you don't know it already. So if your not sure if the fuel pump works then go to the "black box" and jumper the solid Black wire(bottom row far left) to the Brown wire(bottom row far right) and then turn key to "on" and the fuel pump should engage.

RX7Turbo19

Ok so I tried to use a wire to the 2 spots you told me and I went back to the fuel pump and it didnt turn on at all. The ground on it is rusted right out! Im wondering if I should try ande ground it cuz I am getting power thru the blue wire on the pump, but not the red and b/w. Could the ground just be bad?

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By virtue of the Blue wire having voltage means that the relay is doing its part. Now there are 4 wires that should connect to the fuel pump. Blue is for power, Black is for ground and the other two are for the fuel gauge and the low fuel light in the idiot light cluster. So the problem has to be either with the ground or the pump and hopefully it is the ground wire so I would redo it and check it again.

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When you want to focus on the starting circuit and get the starter to turn over you need to do as follows. On some cars there is a simple switch known as the "interlock switch" and it prevents cars from being started unless the clutch is depressed. If your car has this switch it would be located towards the top of the clutch pedal and houses two wires, one being B/R and the other being Black/Green. The B/R wire is the wire from the ignition switch that has its own plug at the ignition switch so this wire needs to have voltage w/key to "start." So if the car has this interlock switch the voltage from the B/R wire is then passed on to the B/G wire so check to see if this wire has voltage as well w/key to start.

The B/G wire then goes to the "Starter Cut Relay" which is a relay box located next to the Main Relay. If you do not have the interlock switch then the B/R wire goes straight to the Starter Cut Relay. This relay has only one plug w/four wires to it while the Main Relay has two plugs connected to it to differentiate the two relays from each other.

Now if you have the interlock switch that means there would be two B/G wires at the Starter Cut Relay, otherwise w/o the interlock switch there would be just one B/G wire. If you have two B/G wires then one has voltage w/key to on while the other would have voltage w/key to start, otherwise if there were only one B/G wire it would have voltage w/key to on.

Now if you have two B/G wires at this relay then jumper a wire between the B/G wire that has voltage w/key to on to the Light Green/Yellow wire and then turn the key to start and the starter should turn over. If this relay only has one B/G wire then still jumper this only B/G wire to the LG/Y wire and try to start the car to see if the starter turns over properly.

Under either scenario the starting of the car should put voltage to the B/W wire in this relay and this B/W wire goes to the starter solenoid.

The jumpering of the two wires in this relay bypasses the alarm just to see if the starting circuit works or not w/o having to deal with possible problems from the alarm system.

satch

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I made an error in the above post. The wires that would need to be jumpered would be the B/G wire that has voltage w/key to start and the clutch depressed and the B/W wire "if" the car has an interlock switch on the clutch pedal.

If the car does not have the interlock switch then the B/R wire would be jumpered to the B/W wire.

stickeynotebanit@hotmail.com

we had the same problem we just beat on the starter till it turned over early we had found out a rat chewed through a spark plug wire luckly the guy who sold it to me had a full set in the back????