Need advice (FD)
03-26-17, 12:25 AM
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Need advice (FD)
Hi, so I've had my S6 FD (US) for about 2 years now) pretty much ever since I got the car I've had issues with my secondary turbo. I've been researching things and checking things for quite a while now with no luck. So pretty much where I'm at right now, my secondary turbocharger only works if it's under 20 degrees Fahrenheit or above 20 degrees for about 15 minutes. After that right at 4500rpms it makes an almost fluttering sound and my boost bounces from 4-5psi (usually 13psi) and at about 7,000rpm the secondary will kick back on and boost an even 9psi until redline. What I'm wondering is if there is any sort of temp sensor that is limiting my car? I've got Greddy intakes, Greddy hard intercooler pipes, tanabe catback exhaust, fluidyne radiator and silicone vacuum lines. Also have CWEST aero kit and vented hood. Engine was rebuilt by Mazda 17,000 miles ago. Sorry if I posted in the wrong section this is my first time on fourms.
03-26-17, 09:34 AM
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I'm not sure I understand your symptoms vs. temperature. But you shouldn't be boosting AT ALL until the engine is at full operating temperature.
Your car does monitor intake air temperature, but afaik, it can't restrict boost. I would more suspect a solenoid or a sticky actuator.
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...-stuff-802060/
A couple other links that might help, just in case you haven't seen them....
Turbocharger Overview
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...tified-841821/
As for the fluttering sound, seems like there are different possibilities...BOV or a solenoid issue. Search in the 3rd Gen. Specific section using terms like "flutter" in titles only and see if anything relates to what you have.
Your car does monitor intake air temperature, but afaik, it can't restrict boost. I would more suspect a solenoid or a sticky actuator.
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...-stuff-802060/
A couple other links that might help, just in case you haven't seen them....
Turbocharger Overview
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...tified-841821/
As for the fluttering sound, seems like there are different possibilities...BOV or a solenoid issue. Search in the 3rd Gen. Specific section using terms like "flutter" in titles only and see if anything relates to what you have.
03-27-17, 08:58 PM
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Sorry what I ment is once at operating temp I've only got 10-15 minutes before it starts acting up. I've checked most of my hoses I can get to and a couple of actuators. Now that I have my Toyota 4Runner back I'm just going to pull the turbos and check everything as I go. I'll check more into those links. Thank you
04-06-17, 11:52 AM
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I've gotten most of the rats nest exposed. I've checked everything up top and everything has passed their tests. (Thank you for that link btw, that is pure gold). The previous owner redid all of the vacuum lines with nice silicone line about 17,000 miles ago (about 10 years ago). Most of the silicone lines are tearing when I pull them off and the zip ties that are fastened to them are just shattering into pieces. So I defiently suspect a heat issue. I'll make more progress tomorrow but thank you for all the advice so far. I'll keep you all updated
04-14-17, 03:52 AM
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There is always a heat issue with the FD. Especially those still sporting the original twins...like mine. The zip-ties get brittle but unless disturbed, they hold just find. And while the silicone will tolerate the heat MUCH better than the OEM rubber lines ever did, they will tear if you're not careful. I've had the same problem when doing occasional work. Can't remember the source off-hand, but some use viton hoses which reportedly are like the best of both worlds.
Underhood heat can be mitigated by a few things. If you're ever able, deleting emissions. It seems to 'unpack" the engine bay and allows a little better air flow IMO. It also reduces those vacuum hoses and solenoids by about half. But mostly wrapping or heat coating your downpipe. And when you pull into the garage you get in the habit of popping the hood.
Underhood heat can be mitigated by a few things. If you're ever able, deleting emissions. It seems to 'unpack" the engine bay and allows a little better air flow IMO. It also reduces those vacuum hoses and solenoids by about half. But mostly wrapping or heat coating your downpipe. And when you pull into the garage you get in the habit of popping the hood.
04-14-17, 01:07 PM
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Normal zip ties won't hold up to the heat. You really only need ties on the pressure lines, not the vacuum lines (if they are good and snug). McMaster Carr sells heat tolerant ties, but they're pricey. Make sure you also check your actuators (turbo, WG, & pre-control)