Max HP on a 13b ?
Forced induction means that it produces a significant amount of boost, which the NA S5 does not. Nice try though. FYI, the other 13B DEI (Dynamic Effect Intake) engines use a similar effect, as do many other automotive engines that incorporate a Helmholtz resonator or similar inlet effect.
IMO, if you stay NA you don't really need a 2-pc eccentric shaft with center bearing as long as your rotating assembly is properly balanced and race clearanced.
what I would do:
-street ports primary and secondary
-semi peripheral ports on the rotor housings
-custom staged intake manifold to keep secondaries and semi-p ports closed until triggered
-rx-8 rotor gears or other hardened gears
-9.7:1 scalloped, lightened, clearanced and balanced rotating assembly
-2-pc ceramic apex seals
-oil mods (increased pressure, external line, etc)
-cooling jacket mods
-good tuning running premix
you could get or surpass 300 whp this way with a streetable and durable setup
what I would do:
-street ports primary and secondary
-semi peripheral ports on the rotor housings
-custom staged intake manifold to keep secondaries and semi-p ports closed until triggered
-rx-8 rotor gears or other hardened gears
-9.7:1 scalloped, lightened, clearanced and balanced rotating assembly
-2-pc ceramic apex seals
-oil mods (increased pressure, external line, etc)
-cooling jacket mods
-good tuning running premix
you could get or surpass 300 whp this way with a streetable and durable setup
IMO, if you stay NA you don't really need a 2-pc eccentric shaft with center bearing as long as your rotating assembly is properly balanced and race clearanced.
what I would do:
-street ports primary and secondary
-semi peripheral ports on the rotor housings
-custom staged intake manifold to keep secondaries and semi-p ports closed until triggered
-rx-8 rotor gears or other hardened gears
-9.7:1 scalloped, lightened, clearanced and balanced rotating assembly
-2-pc ceramic apex seals
-oil mods (increased pressure, external line, etc)
-cooling jacket mods
-good tuning running premix
you could get or surpass 300 whp this way with a streetable and durable setup
what I would do:
-street ports primary and secondary
-semi peripheral ports on the rotor housings
-custom staged intake manifold to keep secondaries and semi-p ports closed until triggered
-rx-8 rotor gears or other hardened gears
-9.7:1 scalloped, lightened, clearanced and balanced rotating assembly
-2-pc ceramic apex seals
-oil mods (increased pressure, external line, etc)
-cooling jacket mods
-good tuning running premix
you could get or surpass 300 whp this way with a streetable and durable setup
Does he specify a race class anywhere in the thread?
All I see is summer street driving with some track with a streetable not too loud 300 hp all motor goal. So that's the motor I'd build for this scenario.
All I see is summer street driving with some track with a streetable not too loud 300 hp all motor goal. So that's the motor I'd build for this scenario.
there's a well documented NA 20B with 9.7 rotors, ceramic apex seals, staged semi-p ports, etc. dynoed at 475whp. its somewhere in this or other rotary forum.
a 13B with similar treatment should be at a little over 300whp.
a 13B with similar treatment should be at a little over 300whp.
The hill climb motors had a similar setup, but a higher rpm and more tweaks. Horsepower = (torque * rpm) /5252. Therefore, high-rpm engines will produce a lot of horsepower even though they don't have much torque.
this is the reason i asked. it does make sense on paper, but i was curious to see if someone has actually done it yet. i am very aware of what Logan's car did when it had the 20B, but your previous posts assert "13B semi-pp", "get or surpass 300 HP", "streetable", and "durable" as established. and it's not that i doubt any of it is possible, it's just it may be a little bit "cart before the horse."
i'm going to poke around and see what i can find on these when i get some time. i am intrigued. outside of Millen when he used to run rotaries, i'm not very familiar with what setups hill climb rotary guys run.
SPiN Racing on this forum (although he is mostly on the other forum) has one of the old engines. If you ask, he may send you a picture of the display board that he brought to DGRR. It has a bunch of stats and pictures of the car. It's pretty neat, but unfortunately I don't have any pictures, and I'm also not sure how much information he wants to share on the internet.
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