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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 02:02 AM
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ok quick info and checklist 87 FC na, starter gets no power car will push start i can also turn motor by hand. When i got the car the ignition switch had already been popped so i figured i would ditch the switch and run a button start. Also might as well relocate the battery. A diagram for dummies would work, eletrical work is a chalange for me lol. Quick new parts list: plugs, wires, starter, fuel pump, battery, maf
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 10:06 AM
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When setting up the push-button start, did you make sure to use a relay for the starter circuit?
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 10:08 AM
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What are the color of the wires used in the button start?
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 04:33 PM
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i havent started anything yet i was hoping to get a diagram first so i wouldnt make any mistakes. The popped oem ignition switch is still connected (symptoms: acc and fuel pump work when turned to start position absolutely nothing happens) New swapped parts: plugs, wires, starter, fuel pump, battery. She also runs when push started. I would like to just run some swithes and a button start and relocate the battery.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 04:40 PM
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Lets clarify 'she runs when push started' get her rolling and dump the clutch. Sry to basically repost but PS3 wouldnt let me edit
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 05:27 PM
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To clarify, does the car normally need the clutch to be depressed to start the car or not, as there is a switch on some S4's that require the clutch to be depressed while the early S4's do not. If you have this Interlock Switch then this may well be your issue. We need to know this to get the ball running.

Interlock Switch: https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generati...switch-587144/

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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 10:58 PM
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Its dark here now so i cant see either but if i do have an interlock switch where do i go from there
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 11:59 PM
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The harness which feeds the switch will have two wires and they are Black/Red and Black/Green. The B/G wire would have voltage w/key to start and the clutch depressed. B/R supplies voltage to the switch from the ignition w/key to start. If both of these wires check out okay then your problem lies elesewhere.

You also need to tell us if your car the factory alarm or not.
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 01:30 AM
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no factory alarm i got the 7 just a couple months ago and the guy before me popped the ignition ya know, gone in 60 sec, style but yea first thing in the morning im just tryin to get her really running rather than having to push her like a skateboard and dumping the clutch is there away to bypass the clutch and interlocking switches and just totally rule that out
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 09:11 AM
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You're going to have to find out whether you have the switch in the first place or not. One step at a time. The Clutch Switch is not part of the starting circuit, but the Interlock is if equipped.
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Old Jun 8, 2013 | 02:40 PM
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Ok B&R wire has power with ignition in start position, while B&G wire has no power at all...
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Old Jun 8, 2013 | 02:41 PM
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my bad B&G has no power with ignition in start position and clutch depressed
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Old Jun 8, 2013 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by spncrdiesel
my bad B&G has no power with ignition in start position and clutch depressed
Isn't this what you stated in the previous post? Or are you saying B/R has no power w/key to start?
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Old Jun 8, 2013 | 05:03 PM
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i was just sayin that i had the clutch pressed while testing B&G
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Old Jun 8, 2013 | 05:13 PM
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If B/R has power w/key to start and B/G does not w/the clutch depressed then your Interlock Switch is the problem. If you jumper the two wires to this switch together then your starter should turn over w/key to start.
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