blindboxx2334

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so yesterday i traded this guy his 88 gxl for my trek fuel ex9. and yeah she needs a little work. anyways. so when i pop the hood the first thing i see is bolts, screwed into these janky terminals. so after he unscrews the bolt and moves it to a new location it finally starts after 3 or 4 times..


so today i go out and buy terminals. install em. and now the car doesnt even start. but when i was switching out the terminals i saw he had actually screwed into the terminal itself!! and the battery was a ford battery it was huge! (something like 750 cca while my friends 86 was 580...) so i tried it after i got the terminals on.. no start.. then i put my friends battery in it. no start. now i know my friends battery is okay because he drives on it all the time! so now im stuck..

but the only difference i noticed from yesterday to today was the starter wasnt clicking over trying to start the motor. it just cant die over night can it?! anyways any help? thanks.

Aaron Cake

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It would help us answer if you repost that in English.

blindboxx2334

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umm it is in english. you just have to read it....?

cliff notes:
it seems like the starter is going bad because there isnt that starter click like there used to be a couple of days ago. is that what you think it is? or is there something else i should look out for? thanks.

blindboxx2334

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or could it be the starter soleniod?

satch

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To check the starter place a screwdriver such that part of the screwdriver is touching the solenoid prong and the positive terminal at the same time while the car is not in gear. If the starter is good, plus the voltage connection is good, it should spin the starter.

Also, check the vid supplied and apply it to your car to see if this aspect of the starting circuit is making good connections between the battery and the starter. Do these things and check back with the results.

You can also check the blue plug located near the Main relay. With the key to start and the clutch depressed the Black/Green wire in this plug should have voltage. If it does have voltage then check for voltage again w/ the key to start and clutch depressed on the Black/White wire in the same plug. This B/W wire connects to the starter solenoid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry68G0C2Fyc

blindboxx2334

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hot damn, thanks for all the help. I will try this later today or on thursday when I m not working all day. I will check back in and give you a heads up!

funkjaw

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Kinda sounds like the car just isn't getting any power to me. Make sure to check all the fuses (under the hood and inside the car). Check all the wiring, make sure nothing is loose etc.., especially the black wire and connector that is by the battery and main fuse block. If that is loose or disconnected it is no bueno.

FelixIsGod29X

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Try pop starting it in 2nd gear if you really think the starter doesnt work.

blindboxx2334

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hmmm going to go look for this black wire right now... is it on a harness or what is it going too?

and all the fuses in the main fuse block are good.

oh btw i have 2 wires that meet at the positive terminal, i know one forsure goes to the starter.. but where does the other one go to?
just got back from cragen.. starter passed with flying colors.. would any of the fuses in the main fuse box inside the car be blown? is there an ignition fuse in the fuse box?? i just looked for the fuse box inside the car real quick but i couldnt find it.. is it on the driver or passenger side?

satch

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Of the two Black wires one does go to the starter and the other one travels to the engine fuse box. If your wipers or turn signals work w/key to on then you know that the battey is connected to the engine fuse box properly and the main fuse in the fuse box is good and the Black wire that goes fron the engine fuse box to the ignition switch is good and that the wire that picks up voltage at the ignition switch from the Black wire and redirects this voltage to some of the fuses at the interior fuse box is good as well.


Read this , live it , learn it.

You can also check the blue plug located near the Main relay. With the key to start and the clutch depressed the Black/Green wire in this plug should have voltage. If it does have voltage then check for voltage again w/ the key to start and clutch depressed on the Black/White wire in the same plug. This B/W wire connects to the starter solenoid.

When the key is turned to start the black wire from engine fuse box passes voltage onto the Black/Red at the ignition switch, which goes to the interlock switch (if equipped) high up on the clutch pedal. This switch requires the pedal to be depressed to start the car. If you have this switch then the B/R wire passes voltage onto the Black/Green wire which then shows up at the blue plug which I already tried to explain to you and its importance in starting the car.

So I ask you, do your wipers or turn signals work w/key to on?

blindboxx2334

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yes when the car is on the wipers, lights, blinkers work.. the whole shebang

edit: i need to try that test method you have in bold then when i get some time..

satch

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If the starter does not turn over when you attempt to start the car then find the dang blue plug and apply what info I provided for you.

EDIT: IF the starter does not turn over and you have voltage on the B/W wire as it leaves the blue plug then verify whether or not that this B/W wire at the starter solenoid has the voltage on it when the car is being started. If it does but the starter does not turn over then use info sourced from the video to figure if there is a voltage drop that is the cause for the starter not turning over and also clean up the solenoid connection which has the B/W wire.

blindboxx2334

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okay, sounds good, i think im going to get a couple of guys over here tomorrow who know a lot more about electrical **** than i do.. one of them owns an fd so he should know a little about this. my weak point is electrical, so its about time i learned


anyways thanks for all your help and i will post up the results!