direct fire ignition
#1
zooooom
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: white bluff tn
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
direct fire ignition
Is there anyway to get by without using a third ignitor to get direct fire on leading plugs on 1985 12a? Say like just a parralel jump from leading coil to an added third coil, or is the signal to weak to accomodate 2 coils. Im going to be doing this the suggested way soon but was stuck on the why 3 ignitores question..Also would like to use single gap jump on dizzy using leading wire connections for traling but im not clear on which one would go where or if it even makes a differance..Trying to start a build thread also but my images are too large so guess I need to read more newbie stuff and get it figured out.
#2
Dragons' Breath
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Pump Handle, SK. Canada
Posts: 1,129
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
Is there anyway to get by without using a third ignitor to get direct fire on leading plugs on 1985 12a? Say like just a parralel jump from leading coil to an added third coil, or is the signal to weak to accomodate 2 coils. Im going to be doing this the suggested way soon but was stuck on the why 3 ignitores question..Also would like to use single gap jump on dizzy using leading wire connections for traling but im not clear on which one would go where or if it even makes a differance..Trying to start a build thread also but my images are too large so guess I need to read more newbie stuff and get it figured out.
Quite simple really The reason you can;t just run another coil on the same Igniteors it just puts extra demand on them and makes for a very lazy weak spark . The first time I did the job I tried to to run the double coil from an 86 with 1 General Motors 4 prong HEI module and it cooked it almost immediately . I swapped to 2 trailing coils from a 86 and ran 2 gm modules From the leading pick up in the dizzy ( yes you can run more than one module from the dizzy pick up signal but from the module you need to run to only one coil )( you can use other types of modules also ,I just picked the GM ones because they are every where and most parts stores have them and they are quite cheap . )For me It makes for a very strong leading spark with no trailing and is simple to work on . There are lots of guys on the forum that have done some very nice ignition changes . Gerald m.
#3
zooooom
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: white bluff tn
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
direct fire
Thanks for the info Gerald that was exactly what I figured would happen but thought it was a legit question..Im going to build one soon with the GM s HEI s and a separate relay with contacts fed str8 from the battery,and probably not even bother with trailing at all................................. Pain is weakness leaving the body
#4
Dragons' Breath
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Pump Handle, SK. Canada
Posts: 1,129
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
Thanks for the info Gerald that was exactly what I figured would happen but thought it was a legit question..Im going to build one soon with the GM s HEI s and a separate relay with contacts fed str8 from the battery,and probably not even bother with trailing at all................................. Pain is weakness leaving the body
#5
zooooom
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: white bluff tn
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Thanks for that link its really going to help alot as we dont have a manual and looks like dont need one now. Emissions are not needed at all and hope to get it all bypassed and simplified soon.............................................. .................................................. .............................Last words of an Idiot.......WATCH THIS
#6
TaK
iTrader: (1)
I run a direct fire/waste fire system without trailing. With a turbo trailing is dangerous do to detonation. As for emissions the easiest way to pass is with an msd ignition. The multi spark discharge 3sparks +a waste spark = four sparks from 1 plug making trailing unnecessary.
A single msd 6a-l or sci-l will replace ur igniter and give a strong spark. It's one of the best upgrades for that car resulting in quick starts and smooth idle.
Run an msd waste fire setup with NO trailing ignition. U'll thank me later. If u want help with carb tuning or a good fuel system for that car let me know
A single msd 6a-l or sci-l will replace ur igniter and give a strong spark. It's one of the best upgrades for that car resulting in quick starts and smooth idle.
Run an msd waste fire setup with NO trailing ignition. U'll thank me later. If u want help with carb tuning or a good fuel system for that car let me know
Last edited by ghost1000; 01-01-13 at 06:00 PM.
#7
I would use an FC leading coil.
Is there anyway to get by without using a third ignitor to get direct fire on leading plugs on 1985 12a? Say like just a parralel jump from leading coil to an added third coil, or is the signal to weak to accomodate 2 coils. Im going to be doing this the suggested way soon but was stuck on the why 3 ignitores question..Also would like to use single gap jump on dizzy using leading wire connections for traling but im not clear on which one would go where or if it even makes a differance..Trying to start a build thread also but my images are too large so guess I need to read more newbie stuff and get it figured out.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
windom
Adaptronic Engine Mgmt - AUS
4
09-11-15 04:48 AM