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Old 12-18-11, 03:44 PM
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coolant issus after instal fmic

hello guys ai have intaslled a fmic intercooler in my 93 rx7 (jdm) and ai run 4 days and everthing ok but on day from coold starting the buuzer light from add coolant get on and the endine idle is crap white back fire afte warm up everting ok and buzzers goes off ai must fill now every 2 day a little coolant no coolant leak and no smok just white smoke when start the morning and the engine not overheating the ast is a little lower that original have your any ideas ? engine is rebouild and have plus minus 3500 mils
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Old 12-19-11, 12:57 AM
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make sure you fill it when the engine is stone cold. squeeze the radiator hose to help get rid of air in the system, and to make room for more coolant or water, whichever you like. are you using distilled water?
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A FMIC doesn't help with engine cooling, but from your post it sounds like you have AT LEAST two symtoms of a failed coolant seal. Other symtoms are listed below.
If your rebuild was done by a shop, I would take it back and talk to them about it.

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A coolant seal failure is a common problem....at least in the FDs of which I'm familiar. IMO it's the price for forced induction. Boost is power. More power= more heat= more stress. NA rotarys have the problem, but AFAIK, not nearly as soon as the FDs.

Still, before doing anything, make sure you have a failed seal. Besides the 'Champagne test" these are all the symtoms I can think of... but no single symtom by itself is confirmation. Many symtoms could be from other causes. However the more symtoms/conditions you have in combination, the more likely it is a coolant seal failure.........

*Stumbling idle on cold start-up that clears up quickly. The combustion chamber is fouled with coolant. As soon as it's purged or burned up, your car will run fine until the next cold start.
*Slightly sweet exhaust smell, especially on start-up. See above. Coolant is being burned and it has a distinctive smell.
*"White smoke" (steam) on cold start-up even in warm/hot weather. See above.
*A coolant over-flow tank that is over-flowing. This will usually result in a puddle under the car near the right front...the area of the over-flow tank. When coolant gets hot it expands and that's what the overflow tank is for. But with a failed seal the nature vacuum that forms and pulls that coolant back out as the engine cools down is lost. That leaves that coolant stranded in the tank and eventually it overflows.
*Coolant loss that isn't explained by a puddle on your garage floor. It's being consumed by the engine and going out the exhaust.
*Spiking temps that seemingly recover on their own almost as quickly. Air pockets in the cooling system allow steam to form. That will cause temp spiking. This is different than a rising temp just after a period of hard boost. It can happen as your steadily cruising down the highway.
*Boiling sounds after shut down even shortly after properly "burping" the system. See above.
*Failed coolant system pressure test.
*Failed test of coolant for hydrocarbons.
*Unusually clean plugs, or wet plugs if you pull them right away after starting the car. (Sometimes you can even smell the coolant)
*One or more episodes of serious overheating in the car's history regardless of miles. (from what I've read, 115 C./240 F. seems to be the critical number for OEM seals to begin to degrade)
*An otherwise well maintained and cared-for FD approaching 100K miles or so.

As for a bandaid, some have used one of the many "Stop-Leak" coolant additives to give them a bit more time but use at your own risk. While it's not anything that will leave you on the side of the road, a failed coolant seal can lead to errosion/rust/pitting of the coolant seal grooves in the irons. That can cause a junk iron and make the inevitiable rebuild more expensive.
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what about the sub-zero starting system that they have. you said you were starting the car on cold days right? well rx-7's have a sub-zero starting system that enjects some coolent into the engine for starting assistance when the temp is low enough.
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^It's been nearly 25 yrs, but what I remember about that system on my 81 was that it didn't make idle like "crap" on cold start. It also didn't cause the loss of coolant described by the OP. Certainly not enough to make the coolant buzzer go off.
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Hi guys Thanks for the help then when ai have enoug coolant in the engine the buzzer is off and the engine idle is perfect and when not enoug the idlee is a litle bit bad an when the booser goes of is the idle perfect a ai have see when ai fill up the engine ai not will the ast and white engine runing its no boobles coms from the filler blug and ai have see today morning ai have the under from the car completly white coolant the ohter days it was rain and ai can not see the weekend ai gonna go to the workshop to see fo the coolant problem
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try as i may i have no idea how to go about reading that last post. way to much spelling to try and work out
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