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Old Apr 12, 2021 | 09:45 AM
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"Barn find" first start

Hi All,

My neighbor has a 1979 or 80 FB sitting in his garage since the 80s. He wants help getting it out/sold. I'm considering maybe buying it off of him but want to make sure it runs first. I've built many BMWs before but never anything Wankel powered so want to make sure I'm not missing anything before trying to fire this thing.

Plan is as follows: Change oil/filter, coolant, plugs, battery. Drain gas. Replace fuel filter. Keep plugs out and prime till it builds oil pressure (if). Gap plus, install. Get a gascan and mix up correct ratio, run gas line to gas can and finally try to fire. Anything else I need to know? Should I disable OMP to start? Thanks and looking forward to showing pictures of this beauty! Did I mention she only has 14K miles?

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Old Apr 12, 2021 | 10:54 AM
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welcome to the forum, u have definitely come to the right place. need to determine whether it's a 79-80 SA or 81-85 FB. lots of differences from SA to FB, and some within the FB run. get some pix too if u can. how long has it been sitting and did it run when parked? even more so, why was it parked?
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Old Apr 12, 2021 | 01:33 PM
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Thanks! Just found out it's an 83. Neighbor will send the VIN later so I can see how it was optioned. Right now it has 4 flat tires and is surrounded by junk. Will dig it out this coming weekend and take pics. The interior is a time capsule besides the mold. Dash is completely uncracked. Carpets look like new. haven't been able to see underneath so I have no idea about rust, but hopeful the moisture in the garage was minimal.
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Old Apr 12, 2021 | 06:45 PM
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welcome to the board, Jake.

no need to disable the MOP before you start it. matter of fact, it might do some good to get a few ounces of oil in the chambers and turn it by hand before you try cranking it.

good luck with it.
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Old Apr 13, 2021 | 06:55 AM
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Does your neighbor remember why it was parked way back in the day?
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Old Apr 13, 2021 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by diabolical1
welcome to the board, Jake.

no need to disable the MOP before you start it. matter of fact, it might do some good to get a few ounces of oil in the chambers and turn it by hand before you try cranking it.

good luck with it.
Thanks for the tip! Lets hope it actually turns by hand....

Ordered the haynes manual, gets here on Thursday. Should have an update by this weekend.
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Old Apr 13, 2021 | 08:19 AM
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No 83 FSM, but I think the 80 may be close. Also has carb manual and other resources you may be interested in downloading free....

Mazda RX-7 Reference Materials
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Old Apr 13, 2021 | 12:00 PM
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just for the record, the 1985 manual is probably a little better for you than the 1980 one. it's not an exact match either (as Sgtblue pointed out), and you could probably get by with the 1980, but i would say the 1985's a little more mechanically relevant. i'm possibly splitting hairs, but i thought i should put it out there.
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Old Apr 13, 2021 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by diabolical1
just for the record, the 1985 manual is probably a little better for you than the 1980 one. it's not an exact match either (as Sgtblue pointed out), and you could probably get by with the 1980, but i would say the 1985's a little more mechanically relevant. i'm possibly splitting hairs, but i thought i should put it out there.
Based on the Vin it is probably a late 82 build - does that make a difference on leaning toward 80 vs 85?
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Old Apr 13, 2021 | 03:11 PM
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not really.. basically, the cars break down like this:

SA cars = 1979-80 and the FB cars = 1981-85. the FB cars are further split 1981-83 (S2) and 1984-85 (S3). from a general mechanical standpoint, the '83 is "closer" to an '85 because they are both FBs. an example of what i mean is the ignition system. the SA cars use points, the FB cars are electronic.
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Old Apr 14, 2021 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Sgtblue
Does your neighbor remember why it was parked way back in the day?
He says he doesn't remember, which scares me more than having a concrete reason.
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Update!

Turned the motor over by hand and it was disturbingly easy. Like, 0 compression. I read something about squirting a little oil in the lower spark plug hole. Is this recommended before using the starter to build oil pressure? EDIT duh, diabolical1 stated as much above. Any tips on adding? Like, 1 oz in, turn rotor, another oz, turn, repeat?

Regarding the rest of the car, it is so nice. 0 rust. The underbody looks like new. Clutch works and the tranny/shifter feels like butter (in a good way). I'm probably going to make an offer this week and will provide pics once in my garage. I would like to confirm compression before making an offer though, so any advice on testing this is helpful.

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Old May 27, 2021 | 08:52 AM
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About time I uploaded some pictures! Current status is: replaced the gas tank, got it running, and immediately popped a freeze plug behind the flywheel. Trans is out and should pull the flywheel tonight to replace freeze plug(s). Also got every hose from Mazdatrix, already replaced pads and all brake hoses, all rubber fuel lines, bled brakes, new plugs and plug wires.















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Old May 27, 2021 | 09:40 AM
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Pretty car! Looking forward to watching your progress on this!
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Old May 27, 2021 | 10:11 AM
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"Pretty" that's being very kind lol. The paint is hashed - needs a serious cut and buff. It was left uncovered in a garage and used for box storage To be honest I'm not sure how good it will come out. However the rest of the car is nice, and with the waxoyl treatment the underbody is completely rust free.
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Old May 27, 2021 | 10:23 AM
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Hopefully, you'll be able to clean up the paint without too much trouble. It's a seven, it automatically looks better than 99.9% of cars you'll see on the road.
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Old May 28, 2021 | 01:31 PM
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Success! Flywheel off and thankfully it is a freeze plug. Question, can I remove the rear man seal cover to make it easier to replace the seal?


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