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Old 09-26-09, 02:02 AM
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MN 12a troubleshooters needed

Ok, so I bought a 79 rx7 in non running condition, first mistake. Anyway I got it running after several issues. Fuel pump was bad so I replaced it with a universal one that works great. I also put the newer electronic ignition in because I hate points and gave the carb a thorough cleaning along with new gasket set, in other words rebuilt. I also removed all the smog pump and plumbing. I started the car and after the smoke cleared it ran great. Honestly I think you could have balanced a nickel on the air cleaner. Revved real smooth and fast. I then drove it up by my home so give the car a good wash and wax. That's when it hit the fan. Sitting there the idle became very rough and I had to baby the pedal to keep it running. It was warmed up at this time and not overheating. Then it quite running and I could not restart it. The next day I tried to restart it and it took alot of cranking but started. It ran rough and didn't rev smooth at all. Almost like it was only running on one rotor. I checked the timing, its right on. I cannot find the issue. Anyone else have a problem like this? I'm at the point that I think my engine is shot. Mainly because nothing else seems wrong. But to go wrong so fast?
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To eliminate the engine as a cause, see http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/blown.htm

But since you bought the car in non-running condition, and it was presumably sitting, an engine failure is a real possibility.
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That is exactly what I have been looking for. I will run some of the tests it calls for today. Thanks.
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Alright, I compression tested the engine and the front rotor gave me 75psi three times and the rear gave me 90psi twice and 100psi once. So I am guessing its time to rebuild it. I got it running again but it smoke real bad on start up. Once the choke was off it went back to running real good. And I thought, maybe its not to bad but when I revved it up to 4 thousand it smoked real real bad and then would not idle again and quite and would not restart so I just closed the hood. So its shot right.
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Maybe maybe not. Depends on how long it was sitting really. Could be that your new fuel pump is making too much pressure. You only need ~3 psi for stock carb whereas MOST universal external pumps run around 7. This could be where some if not most of your smoke is coming from.
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I do have a fuel pressure regulator I can put on to find out. I guess I figure since it recirculates the fuel from the tank to carb and back the psi would not be a problem. So far the fuel stays centered in the sight glass. But I will try the regulator, cant hurt.
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I put in the fuel pressure regulator and set it to 3psi with no improvement. Engine still runs poor and smokes really bad when revved. I just cant imagine something smoking that bad being good. I have another engine but am unsure of condition. I may try to get a compression test on it and maybe swap it in. Otherwise I am in the market for a good engine or a rebuild kit. The worst part is explaining to my wife why its going to cost more. lol.
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What color is the smoke? If the smoke is white, then it is probably coolant. If so, then I have had luck with Alumaseal (get this kind, nothing with copper), just dumped it into the radiator and after about a half hour the motor was fine. That was about 8,000 miles ago.
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It is white smoke but also smells very gassy. Does not smell like antifreeze. I thought that to. Once it starts and runs for about 30 seconds it no longer smokes until revved up to 4k. I will try that tomorrow though.
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Ok, now its running somewhat better but its still not perfect. I will just have to keep tuning it. The smoke had a big reduction in density today after putting in alumaseal yesterday. My idle is around 900 and gets a choppy if I turn it down from there. I have read that the breather on the fill tube can cause smoke. Looks like mine goes into some sort of diaphram housing. What if I hook that directly to the carb?
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Check out the "how to tune your idle" writeup over at Sterling's site:

www.sterlingmetalworks.com

Probably a lot of other info you could use too. Good luck...
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