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Old 07-17-05, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CHINOOO
Is it going to rain the whole day today over there?
Chino:

Ryan majored in meteorolgy in college, Maybe you should ask him... Saturday and Sunday I thought it was going to rain at the track but Ryan said that it 30% chance of rain.... While I was there Saturday I didn't feel one drop.... Today, if it rained 5 minutes at the track it was alot..... I just got off the phone with Ryan and he said the weather was like yesterday, no rain......
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..i dont know who ent but the 8.29 run from "Kamikazi " miata was un-beleavable!!!

Thats 8.29 ands i think 8.14 later in the day "Aspirated" ...No turbo or supercharger!!!!
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Cool I went Sunday. They ran till about 2:30pm and got the first round in for the Eliminations. The place was so packed that I had to park outside! Too bad the weather was bad. Hopefully there will be a raindate. So many beautiful rotaries!
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Originally Posted by Goopy
..i dont know who ent but the 8.29 run from "Kamikazi " miata was un-beleavable!!!

Thats 8.29 ands i think 8.14 later in the day "Aspirated" ...No turbo or supercharger!!!!

You forgot the massive shot of NOS................... car has the same setup as Bam Bam........
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Hey Ernie, I'm still here through tomorrow ... if you made the drive up to NY we could still do a shoot.

The event was awesome, it was great meeting all these guys I've known for years on the forum. And NEVER have I seen so many people nuts about rotaries in one place, incredible ... I'll be back for the rain make-up date!
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pan-ams

somebody mentioned that the pan-ams havent been the same since 97-98. i agree, but i'l tell you why it was better in years past. back in 97. puerto rico brought out all of the fastest 4 cylinders and rotaries of the time. you had sakura running high 7's, falito, flaco, gato racing, cheo gomez, quiles ect ect all running low 8's which at the time was awesome.
if puerto rico were to bring out some of there fastest cars like new falito 7.4's siguel running 6.8's, major league running 7.00's, nibo who is running in the 7.2's consistently. if they bring those cars and a few others who are running low 7's, the event would be better, the problem is that they are bracket racing. puerto rico wants to win the pan-ams so they bring cars that are not as fast, but consistent. when you run bracket only consistent cars win. thats why you see some many rotary nitro only cars running the event. they are consistent, therefor have a better shot at winning in bracket.
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Originally Posted by naldy31
somebody mentioned that the pan-ams havent been the same since 97-98. i agree, but i'l tell you why it was better in years past. back in 97. puerto rico brought out all of the fastest 4 cylinders and rotaries of the time. you had sakura running high 7's, falito, flaco, gato racing, cheo gomez, quiles ect ect all running low 8's which at the time was awesome.
if puerto rico were to bring out some of there fastest cars like new falito 7.4's siguel running 6.8's, major league running 7.00's, nibo who is running in the 7.2's consistently. if they bring those cars and a few others who are running low 7's, the event would be better, the problem is that they are bracket racing. puerto rico wants to win the pan-ams so they bring cars that are not as fast, but consistent. when you run bracket only consistent cars win. thats why you see some many rotary nitro only cars running the event. they are consistent, therefor have a better shot at winning in bracket.
well said........ when i said the pan ams haven't been good since the late 90's i mainly meant the quality of team usa cars........... you are right though about team puerto rico they also had better cars then too....... i also agree with the bracket racing issue, i also beleive this is also a factor why we always have a weak team usa, besides the fact team PR are the only racers being paid to show up for the event.
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Originally Posted by BOOSTD 7
Hey Ernie, I'm still here through tomorrow ... if you made the drive up to NY we could still do a shoot.

The event was awesome, it was great meeting all these guys I've known for years on the forum. And NEVER have I seen so many people nuts about rotaries in one place, incredible ... I'll be back for the rain make-up date!
When is the rain make-up date?
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Originally Posted by naldy31
somebody mentioned that the pan-ams havent been the same since 97-98. i agree, but i'l tell you why it was better in years past. back in 97. puerto rico brought out all of the fastest 4 cylinders and rotaries of the time. you had sakura running high 7's, falito, flaco, gato racing, cheo gomez, quiles ect ect all running low 8's which at the time was awesome.
if puerto rico were to bring out some of there fastest cars like new falito 7.4's siguel running 6.8's, major league running 7.00's, nibo who is running in the 7.2's consistently. if they bring those cars and a few others who are running low 7's, the event would be better, the problem is that they are bracket racing. puerto rico wants to win the pan-ams so they bring cars that are not as fast, but consistent. when you run bracket only consistent cars win. thats why you see some many rotary nitro only cars running the event. they are consistent, therefor have a better shot at winning in bracket.
It has NOTHING to do with those things...

It's more about power, and money; I don't know the whole story, but it all comes down to power and money. Everything started five or so years ago, when the PR team decided to race at Englishtown also, couple of weekends before the Pan-Ams at Atco. Somebody did not like that, and everything went south from that point on. Some also say, that the winners were not being paid...

Concerning bracket racing, hell there's not enough cars racing the same times, so bracket racing gives those backyard mechanics a chance at the trophy too. Nothing wrong with that
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Originally Posted by 73828793
besides the fact team PR are the only racers being paid to show up for the event.
You sure about that?
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Well Ryan donno if you got my message about why I didn't make it the 2nd day but here's some pictures of what I managed to run over in the middle of I-95, blew tire, spun around recovered and then limped the car home.

No deer attached to these there were just 20pieces of antlers strung across the highway like some creative spike strip.
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hahaha, that sucks.
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Originally Posted by RX7UP
When is the rain make-up date?
RAIN MAKE UP DATE IS SEPTEMBER 25

ohh pepeloco ran an incredible 7.47 not his pb but a nice *** pass indeed, Alot of the florida cars were having problems. only 5 qualified for team usa. La liciencado,El indio, world wide lexus,curian,and switche racing.
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Originally Posted by fbdrifterrx7
RAIN MAKE UP DATE IS SEPTEMBER 25

ohh pepeloco ran an incredible 7.47 not his pb but a nice *** pass indeed, Alot of the florida cars were having problems. only 5 qualified for team usa. La liciencado,El indio, world wide lexus,curian,and switche racing.
I wonder what cars will be there, I heard team PR is heading back home
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Originally Posted by KNONFS
You sure about that?
yes he pays for these cars to be here thats why joe sway did not like that some of those cars attended summer slam that year your talking about, also remember the incident when joe sway was choked at the starting line, causing problems with joe perez's people( partytime crashed shortly after ) race has neva been the same since..........

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Given the chance I would choke joe sway jr. myself, the guys an *******, he's tried to kick me off the track before because I didn't look of age and called my ID fake and kept it until I threatened him to give it back. Also promised to give my admissions fee back since i was there for press, never got that, and most recently told Ryan that to get press passes for RxTuner that we have to do something for him, the publication of the event is what magazines do for him, bleh Atco would be a much better track under different managment.
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Originally Posted by 73828793
yes he pays for these cars to be here thats why joe sway did not like that some of those cars attended summer slam that year your talking about, also remember the incident when joe sway was choked at the starting line, causing problems with joe perez's people( partytime crashed shortly after ) race has neva been the same since..........
and were still trying to recover from that incident to finally take the car out again. 7 years later
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Originally Posted by PoLaK
Given the chance I would choke joe sway jr. myself, the guys an *******, he's tried to kick me off the track before because I didn't look of age and called my ID fake and kept it until I threatened him to give it back. Also promised to give my admissions fee back since i was there for press, never got that, and most recently told Ryan that to get press passes for RxTuner that we have to do something for him, the publication of the event is what magazines do for him, bleh Atco would be a much better track under different managment.
That's why PR racers started racing at Englishtown instead of Atco couple of years ago, two years of it, and everything sucked afterwards.
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Originally Posted by 73828793
yes he pays for these cars to be here thats why joe sway did not like that some of those cars attended summer slam that year your talking about, also remember the incident when joe sway was choked at the starting line, causing problems with joe perez's people( partytime crashed shortly after ) race has neva been the same since..........
I know for a fact that they pay the transportation, but paying (like a salary) just to show up and be there...

I don't know man, the whole PR scene would be there

BTW - I had that crash on video , somebody borrow it and never returned it
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and were still trying to recover from that incident to finally take the car out again. 7 years later
Man that sucked ***, I was there

Glad you guys are coming out again
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Originally Posted by jdmluver
and were still trying to recover from that incident to finally take the car out again. 7 years later
You guys finally started working on the car....... last time i seen it, was still on jack stands covered up with the peices off to the side.
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Originally Posted by KNONFS
I know for a fact that they pay the transportation,
BTW - I had that crash on video , somebody borrow it and never returned it
thats what i meant, guys like Flaco who came all the way from Cali weren't given squat....
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Some people are missing the point.... Some just come out to compete with some great one of a life time competition and to be exposed to potential sponcers....
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Originally Posted by 73828793
thats what i meant, guys like Flaco who came all the way from Cali weren't given squat....
I can assure you, expenses are not nearly the same when you bring a car from across the state, than when you bring it from accross the ocean!
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Some people are missing the point.... Some just come out to compete with some great one of a life time competition and to be exposed to potential sponcers....
Nope, sponsors are not interested in cars that reside outside the US, many PR racers have competed in back to back events, for several months (almost winning the class), without a single sponsorhip offer.


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