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Old 04-27-06, 11:34 PM
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Exclamation Fairfax County Parkway Targeted Enforcement & Impound?!

I heard an until-now unsubstantiated claim that last week Fairfax County po-po were pulling over any car on Fairfax County Parkway which looked slightly modified, and were dishing out tickets left and right, and even impounding some. Anyone know/see/hear about this?

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Old 04-27-06, 11:42 PM
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YO thats fucked up man. IS there a ricer problem in Fairfax?

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Not really a ricer problem... We do have ricers, but we also have a LOT of ppl who hook up their cars.

EDIT: We have more of a "Fairfax County Police run tha streets" typa problem. They do *whatever* they want...it's crazy out here.

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Wow! Glad they are protecting all of us from that modified Honda with a fart pipe! Money, time and effort well spent after all they could be going after criminals such as rapists, murderers etc.
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Wow! Glad they are protecting all of us from that modified Honda with a fart pipe! Money, time and effort well spent after all they could be going after criminals such as rapists, murderers etc.
I agree but you don't get money from those offenders.
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last time i was in fairfax(2 yrs ago) i saw 1 black FD and no cops.
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What kinds of tickets can they give out for what kinds of mods?
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Any modification(non OEM) is technically against the law in fairfax county....it's complete BS. And just the other day on my way home from school (20 min drive), i saw 7 cops. 3 on the parkway within a 1.5miles of each other(driving). I saw 2 biker cops radaring infront of NOVA. And I saw 1 other cop on lee chapel driving. Don't know what was going down that day but something was for sure.
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yesterday on my way to a friends house, a 3 mile drive, i passed 4 cops, 1 of them seemed like he was following me. he made the same 3 turns i did and finnaly when i pulled into my friends court he slowed down, looked at me, and kept going straight.
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Where did you see the info about this enforcement program?
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Originally Posted by Brent 94
Any modification(non OEM) is technically against the law in fairfax county.
That's beyond BS. So if I lived in Fairfax County and my PD starts to leak, I can't replace it with an aftermarket PD that's guaranteed not to leak?
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Originally Posted by Brent 94
Any modification(non OEM) is technically against the law in fairfax county....
Not really. What kind of modifications are you referring to? I drive numerous modified vehicles and never had any problems. The Fairfax County laws are generally comparable the Virginia state laws with respect to equipment; mostly safety items, e.g. safety glass, etc. There are some oddball state laws such as one limiting the height of hood scoops to 2.25 inches. Usually those types are not enforced unless you have either done something else, the officer thinks you have done something else, or the officer is having a bad day. Maybe the county has decided to look for those things due to lack of enough real crime to justify the small army of police.

They are not doing it for the money. Fairfax County has plenty of $$ due to real estate assessments, and district court fines make up only about .25% of the county general fund receipts. (see page 24 of http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dmb/adv...zens_guide.pdf)
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Your state needs some crimes, maybe that'll be a way for them to focus on other things besides harassing people in "modified" cars.
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I read that (OEM EQUIP thing) in a brochure for fairfax county police so it may or may not be 100% true. I do beleive it was an anti- street racing packet. Whenever i get pulled over i get hasseled about aftermarket parts on the car. Lucky me though, cops are dumb and a simple, off the top of my head BS explaination for things with some technical info will send the officer for a loop and they usually move on. Cops in fairfax county are cocky ******** anyways, there are a few nice guys out there though.....luck of the draw for who pulls you over i guess.
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Originally Posted by Lt. Dan
Where did you see the info about this enforcement program?
Another forum. Wasn't much info...just a "I heard that..." comment. I was trying to substantiate it. So far, no dice.

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Not really. What kind of modifications are you referring to?
Exhausts, for example. You can't have ANY aftermarket exhaust on the car, b/c it's not "comparable" to the OEM exhaust. And that is COMPLETELY subjective. There's *no* way to win those tickets. Doesn't matter how quiet or subtle the exhaust is.

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Originally Posted by FDNewbie
Another forum. Wasn't much info...just a "I heard that..." comment. I was trying to substantiate it. So far, no dice.

Exhausts, for example. You can't have ANY aftermarket exhaust on the car, b/c it's not "comparable" to the OEM exhaust. And that is COMPLETELY subjective. There's *no* way to win those tickets. Doesn't matter how quiet or subtle the exhaust is.

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****, so a stock replacement from Advance auto or Pepboys or any other shop doesn't cut it?

I dunno if Mazda stocks parts for the FB. I cringe about thinking of the cost of a new manifold or something though.
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I live in Fairfax County, right off the park way.

I have no speeding tickets. Nor traffic infractions. But I do have 12 exhaust tickets and a couple no front tag tickets. Every time I take out my Supra, there is a 75% chance I will be pulled over and harassed for “illegal exhaust”. To tell you the truth, I do not enjoy my car anymore. You can’t in Fairfax. I have to look over my shoulder every second to make sure there is no police officer.

I will never be pulled over by a 40+ year old officer who has been with the force for many years, no. I will be pulled over by a 23-32 year old who recently got his badge.

I am sorry to say, but yes, I do feel that domestics that are modified have a better chance of not being pulled over rather then a import. Could this be why I never see domestics getting pulled over?

When is a police officer abusing his rights of power? In my opinion, when he ignores a domestic modified car over an import that is modified.

Giving cars that are modified tickets is how Fairfax County brings in most of its revenue from, believe it or not. This is one of the reason this county is one of the richest in the Untied States.

People have tried to get rid of the law, but why would the county revoke a law that nets them the most money in there pocket??? They won’t.

My proposal is for them (the law makers) to meet us at least half way on this. There are many automobile tuning enthusiasts out there who actually install upgraded parts that are better quality then the oem parts. Yes, the parts make the car faster sometimes, but if that person is driving the car and obeying the laws, then why make it illegal? They should make laws prohibiting pep boy fart cans and other none quality parts.

Many of the states like FL and TX for example I believe are very lenient to car modifications.

I have had conversations with a 61 year old retired Fairfax County police officer who is a car tuner enthusiast about how the Fairfax County police target me for fines because of my modifications and he couldn’t believe it.

Will Fairfax County change there laws? Not anytime soon is my guess.

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Originally Posted by FDNewbie
Exhausts, for example. You can't have ANY aftermarket exhaust on the car, b/c it's not "comparable" to the OEM exhaust. And that is COMPLETELY subjective. There's *no* way to win those tickets. Doesn't matter how quiet or subtle the exhaust is.

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Just to be clear, this is the law:
Originally Posted by Code of Virginia
§ 46.2-1049. Exhaust system in good working order.

No person shall drive and no owner of a motor vehicle shall permit or allow the operation of any vehicle on a highway unless it is equipped with an exhaust system of a type installed as standard factory equipment, or comparable to that designed for use on the particular vehicle as standard factory equipment, in good working order and in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise. An exhaust system shall not be deemed to prevent excessive or unusual noise if it permits the escape of noise in excess of that permitted by the standard factory equipment exhaust system of private passenger motor vehicles or trucks of standard make.

The term "exhaust system," as used in this section, means all the parts of a motor vehicle through which the exhaust passes after leaving the engine block.

Chambered pipes are not an effective muffling device to prevent excessive or unusual noise.
It seems the trouble has been convincing a judge that the exhaust was "comparable to that designed for use on the particular vehicle." Sounds like you need to pay your attorney more.
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I ran across this interesting little item in the Code of Fairfax County:
Originally Posted by Fairfax County Code
Section 82-6-29. Tail gates on vehicles.
(a) It shall be unlawful for the operator of any truck, trailer or other vehicle equipped with a tail gate, to lower or open the tail gate thereon, or to suffer or permit such tail gate to be lowered or opened, except during the time the vehicle is being loading or unloaded, and except during the time the load on the vehicle necessitates a lowered or opened tail gate as a support for the load.
(b) It shall be the duty of the operator of any such vehicle to see that the tail gate on such vehicle is kept closed or raised, except during the times hereinbefore specified.
(c) Any person who shall violate the provisions of this Section while driving through or within the County shall be punished by a fine of not less than Five Dollars ($5.00) nor more than Twenty Dollars ($20.00) for each offense. ((3-13-63; 1961 Code, § 16-166.)
There are quite a few pickup trucks being driven on the roads with their tailgates down without loads. Some even have little bars on top of the open tailgates.
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Originally Posted by cosmicbang
I ran across this interesting little item in the Code of Fairfax County:There are quite a few pickup trucks being driven on the roads with their tailgates down without loads. Some even have little bars on top of the open tailgates.
It's cause it covers up the rear tag and you can't get caught by cameras.
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Originally Posted by FDNewbie
Exhausts, for example. You can't have ANY aftermarket exhaust on the car, b/c it's not "comparable" to the OEM exhaust. And that is COMPLETELY subjective. There's *no* way to win those tickets. Doesn't matter how quiet or subtle the exhaust is.

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we have the same problem here in buffalo. the law states you CAN replace the exhaust system as long as its not louder than stock. do cops go around checking the db's? no. if they see one that isn't stock they pull you over, give a "modified exhaust" ticket, and theres no way you can win cause its your word against theirs.

i'll never forget, 2 yrs ago when i had my sr swapped 240sx, i was driving home from the track and this civic with NO exhaust pulls along side of me, and floors it (SUPER loud, it was an automatic and was raspy as ****) like 20 seconds later a cop is coming the other way, pulls a u-turn, gets behind us.... and pulls me over. comes to my window and i ask why i'm being pulled over, he says because he heard my exhaust from a mile away. i say well thats funny cause the car next to me had NO exhaust on it and he got the wrong guy. his response? "well your muffler looked bigger so i assumed it was you" HE HAD NO MUFFLER!
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Originally Posted by 7THSIGN
I live in Fairfax County, right off the park way.

I have no speeding tickets. Nor traffic infractions. But I do have 12 exhaust tickets and a couple no front tag tickets. Every time I take out my Supra, there is a 75% chance I will be pulled over and harassed for “illegal exhaust”. To tell you the truth, I do not enjoy my car anymore. You can’t in Fairfax. I have to look over my shoulder every second to make sure there is no police officer.

I will never be pulled over by a 40+ year old officer who has been with the force for many years, no. I will be pulled over by a 23-32 year old who recently got his badge.

I am sorry to say, but yes, I do feel that domestics that are modified have a better chance of not being pulled over rather then a import. Could this be why I never see domestics getting pulled over?

When is a police officer abusing his rights of power? In my opinion, when he ignores a domestic modified car over an import that is modified.

Giving cars that are modified tickets is how Fairfax County brings in most of its revenue from, believe it or not. This is one of the reason this county is one of the richest in the Untied States.

People have tried to get rid of the law, but why would the county revoke a law that nets them the most money in there pocket??? They won’t.

My proposal is for them (the law makers) to meet us at least half way on this. There are many automobile tuning enthusiasts out there who actually install upgraded parts that are better quality then the oem parts. Yes, the parts make the car faster sometimes, but if that person is driving the car and obeying the laws, then why make it illegal? They should make laws prohibiting pep boy fart cans and other none quality parts.

Many of the states like FL and TX for example I believe are very lenient to car modifications.

I have had conversations with a 61 year old retired Fairfax County police officer who is a car tuner enthusiast about how the Fairfax County police target me for fines because of my modifications and he couldn’t believe it.

Will Fairfax County change there laws? Not anytime soon is my guess.

Similar situation here...Since Ive lived in the NOVA area (approx 6 months) I have 5-6 exhausts tickets and a couple no front plate. I will admit that was with a t-78/open wg/and jic titanium exhaust system so it was very loud, but I DO NOT drive recklessly by any means and the exhaust would be the only thing to attract the officers...I have only driven the car about 500 miles in those 6 months to give a reference so it seems like everytime I drove the car I would get pulled for it. Since I was also to the point of not even enjoying the car anymore (in fairfax) due to constant harassment I plummed the wg back in, had a muffler welded into the midpipe and put the RB duals on the car. Since then I have had zero issues (knock on wood) with the police. It is sad to see how import cars get more publicity than domestics as well as serious crimes in the area

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It is said to see how import cars get more publicity than serious crimes in this area
yea meanwhile all the domestic muscle cars can run open headers and a cop will pull them over just to check the car out and compliment them.......

i will say tho i've run into ONE cool cop, he was a state trooper. he pulled up next to me on an off ramp while i was waiting at the light, i looked over and he's like "hows it goin?" at this point i'm thinking oh great what did i do now, say "pretty good , you?" .... and he says " really nice car, my buddy has one too, keep it clean!" gives the thumbs up and drives away
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I dunno... On my old Civic, to change the alternator, you could pull an axle or pull the exhaust... I opted to pull the exhaust. Drove to the parts store with no exhaust right past a cop and he had no problem.

I think the sportscar bit gets em... They want money. They don't wanna pull over a beater.
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I'll have to be careful again, granted my exhaust is off now...but i just stripped half my interior to get some work done in the next couple of weeks. Maybe it's time to drive the beater again until then.


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