4 port na drift moter
04-05-12, 03:03 AM
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goopy sells scatter sheilds for t2 trannys there number is 1-845-947-0007. I think im going to try and make a scatter sheild if I can find some metal laying around.
04-05-12, 02:38 PM
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Definitely going to go with the Goopy Apex seals. Started on getting ready to tear down my engine. Hoping to have it torn down all the way tonight so I can send out the Rotor Housings and Side plates to get the apex seal surface polished and Large Street ported.
04-05-12, 02:45 PM
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would a self made scatter shield be "race legal" (scca/nasa)? as long as it's made of 1/4" steel (or thicker)? does anyone have any pics of a scatter shield attached to a bellhousing?
btw, here in central fl we have a place call "Svinga brothers" who sells recycled metals, aluminum/pipes and all kinds of great goodies for cheap. should check your local yellow pages and see if somewhere like that is local to you.
btw, here in central fl we have a place call "Svinga brothers" who sells recycled metals, aluminum/pipes and all kinds of great goodies for cheap. should check your local yellow pages and see if somewhere like that is local to you.
04-25-12, 09:45 AM
#29
I'm looking into doing a weird/custom bridge port on my engine.
It's like a half bridge but the intake opening timing is not going to be super aggressive, i want it to be like inbetween a large street port and a bridge port. Would it be better for me to basically have the opening come in later by raising the base of it, or just make it come in later by making the opening narrower. If you guys need a better explanation ill try to illustrate it.
It's like a half bridge but the intake opening timing is not going to be super aggressive, i want it to be like inbetween a large street port and a bridge port. Would it be better for me to basically have the opening come in later by raising the base of it, or just make it come in later by making the opening narrower. If you guys need a better explanation ill try to illustrate it.
04-25-12, 09:59 AM
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save all the bullshit mods, do a large street port and put the money from upgrading the oil system and balancing and other crap and put that directly into buying a set of ceramic seals.
stock balance with the ceramics the engine will still easily be good for 9,000 RPMs of constant duty. forget the bridge if you want the best torque curve from start to end, streetporting will get you there but it will start to peak in horsepower at about 8500 at best with a streetport so you will be looking at around 200whp peak power.
why do people always have to attempt to overbuild these engines... wasting money in the wrong areas. that is what i would do for an n/a car i would be flogging, and delete the OMP and premix synthetic 2 stroke oil.
you will still have to also worry about upgrading the cooling system as well.
stock balance with the ceramics the engine will still easily be good for 9,000 RPMs of constant duty. forget the bridge if you want the best torque curve from start to end, streetporting will get you there but it will start to peak in horsepower at about 8500 at best with a streetport so you will be looking at around 200whp peak power.
why do people always have to attempt to overbuild these engines... wasting money in the wrong areas. that is what i would do for an n/a car i would be flogging, and delete the OMP and premix synthetic 2 stroke oil.
you will still have to also worry about upgrading the cooling system as well.
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04-25-12, 12:31 PM
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04-25-12, 02:28 PM
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save all the bullshit mods, do a large street port and put the money from upgrading the oil system and balancing and other crap and put that directly into buying a set of ceramic seals.
stock balance with the ceramics the engine will still easily be good for 9,000 RPMs of constant duty. forget the bridge if you want the best torque curve from start to end, streetporting will get you there but it will start to peak in horsepower at about 8500 at best with a streetport so you will be looking at around 200whp peak power.
why do people always have to attempt to overbuild these engines... wasting money in the wrong areas. that is what i would do for an n/a car i would be flogging, and delete the OMP and premix synthetic 2 stroke oil.
you will still have to also worry about upgrading the cooling system as well.
stock balance with the ceramics the engine will still easily be good for 9,000 RPMs of constant duty. forget the bridge if you want the best torque curve from start to end, streetporting will get you there but it will start to peak in horsepower at about 8500 at best with a streetport so you will be looking at around 200whp peak power.
why do people always have to attempt to overbuild these engines... wasting money in the wrong areas. that is what i would do for an n/a car i would be flogging, and delete the OMP and premix synthetic 2 stroke oil.
you will still have to also worry about upgrading the cooling system as well.
The thing is though, I feel like a power band that is strongest from 5k RPM to ~9k RPM would work best for an NA drift car.
The engine in my car was "Street Ported" by Rotary Shack thanks to the previous owner of the car. The response was decent but the top end power was nothing I would expect. It accelerated but not how I felt it should.
If you guys think ill get good power that'll make my rev's fly towards 9k RPM I will probably do that.
And regarding the seals, I'm convinced on getting the Goopy seals, I also heard they are a bit soft and will help great with conforming to minor grooving the rotor housing might have, seeing as they are used.
This is definitely a long learning experience but i love learning things first hand. I am trying to slowly familiarize myself with flow and timing, so that when I plan on doing a 6 Port turbo build w/ either S5 or S6 rotors I wont be going back and forth trying to figure out how to build a reliable TII engine.
Oh, and I already run pre mix, good ol' Valvoline 2 Stroke. Is synthetic better?
And for cooling, I have a Fluidine Radiator and always keep my coolant fresh. I would like to figure something out for the Oil Cooler but I'm sure they can handle the heat an NA produces.
04-25-12, 08:14 PM
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No... I wish I could afford that. I should've dynoed but went drifiting instead.
And as for engine stuff.
Weber 48 DCO ("tuned by Rotary Shack") :P
MSD 6A Box on leading plugs
Racing Beat 13B Header with a 2" Collector Pipe (Maybe that was my problem)
Apex'i GT Spec Exhaust (3"-4" to 114mm outlet pipe.
Once I do this rebuild I'm definitely going to keep an eye on A/F ratios and get a 2.75" Pipe for the collector
Ill try to post pics later today of the "Street Port" my engine had.
06-28-12, 02:44 PM
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I dont know where ive been will this thread kept going? well I can tell you im doing a lot of stuff differntly now Im going with s5 na rotors side cut and with a new cut that goopy does to the face of the rotor that drops the compression ratio slightly and lightens the rotors alot! and with that cut being done the rotating assembuly needs to be balenced. and im going with rx8 stationary gears and a 3rd gen eshaft. goopy resurfaces the the eshaft and I geuss they are going to make me custom bearings for it or somthing like that I have to take a trip up to goopy soon and talk to jon. and Im going with the judge ito street port so forget the half bridge port im going with the very large street port!!! and hope to make 200whp
. now I have another question what type of gas should I be running in this engine? I would think I should probably run 93 octane pump gas coz that will let me tune it prity agressively and not have to spend money on race gas.
. now I have another question what type of gas should I be running in this engine? I would think I should probably run 93 octane pump gas coz that will let me tune it prity agressively and not have to spend money on race gas.
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06-28-12, 03:28 PM
#38
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im going to run it na for a wile and probably next summer im going to add a turbo and push about 20psi of boost and make 400 to 500whp
06-28-12, 03:31 PM
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07-10-12, 10:40 PM
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dont waste your time and money. A stockport turbo motor with a compressor upgraded s5 turbo will be faster drifting than any N/A you could build and itll last longer to.
07-12-12, 08:29 AM
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I know I could get away with doing somthing like that for drifting. but I would much rather build a moter and set it up exactly the way I want it in stead of just droping a t2 in it and calling it a day. besides I will be turboing the moter im building in the futer any way.
07-18-12, 08:12 AM
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[QUOTE=fidelity101;11158527]well then find a happy medium
ok i finally got the moter built! I hooked it up 2 the tranny to day hooked up the starter and did a compression test. the front rotar was about 90psi on all faces but the rear was about 90psi on 2 faces and about 60psi on one face. i dont know why though? I clearensed all the side seals within speck and im about 99.9% sure i got the angle right on all of them. but my question is after the brake in will that face reading 60psi hopfully go up and sit closer to the other to faces around 90psi? im using rotor housings resurfaced by goopy, goopy apex seals, new oem side seals, adkins one peace corner seals with fd springs, and all new springs all around. I mean will I even notice one rotor face being 20 or so psi lower then the rest?
12-21-12, 12:13 AM
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I would doubt that any of them dont have enough clearens. they all fell in between .002 -.005 at the most. Im just hopeing everything frees up after the breaking is over! if its still short on compression do u think the moter will still run ok? coz if I dont really notice the slight lack of compression on that one face and I can get away with running it that way and still make decent power that would be ideal, coz right now I dont realy have a garage and I dont feel like takeing this engine back out in the cold and draging it back down to my basment and tear it back apart!
