BadAssRX-7

ok i have been thinking of getting ae6k or something when i do get my t2 swap done.... and along comes this group buy on the lt8's 650 with flying lead.. is the lt8 worth a ****? im not a computer person i dont know crap about open and closed loop and all that tech crap...can you all please inform me and give me your 2 cents on the microtech

kabooski

Seems you have a bad attitude there dude

read the threads there are a bunch of Q&A's already

BadAssRX-7

no its not a bad att. I dont know **** about computers in a car(or at home) im a 1st gen guy(fb) and i know CARBS. and i would stick to a carb but i cant get the power i want and the daily driavbility i want with a carb...so im going t2... and its not gonna be stock so i will eather waist my money on a piggy back setup (safc) or get a stand alone. I heat the BIG names all the time...haltec, motec, aem but i havent heard alot about microtech. so im simply asking is it worth a ****? like i siad in the 1st post i dont know anything about ecu's i dont know what a open or closed loop is hell about the only thing i doo know is a flying lead is unterminated .... no plugs. thats about it i just want some feed back on what people thing of the lt8...not a lecture about my att.
Thanks

rxeng

BadAss.
For someone new to the world of aftermarket EFI the Microtech is by far the easiest & simplest to use & understand.
Installation is also one of the easiest of all the other aftermarket ECU's as the Microtech runs all the factory sensors & coils without any modification whatsoever.If you have a basic understanding of auto electrical techniques then a Microtech will be easy for you to install.
To add to the simplicity,the Microtech comes with a base map in the computer to suit your particular engine.If you wire the unit up correctly,turn the key & the car will start,run,idle & drive well enough to drive to your nearest dyno for a proper tune.The base map is so good I've seen guys drive around for 2 years on the base map & be totally happy with the way it runs.
Ask any of the guys that have used it.There aren't too many unhappy customers.
Jon

BadAssRX-7

see now thats what im looking 4 good info. i will more than likly break in my motor with the stock setting then go tune it in a few k miles

No7Yet

BadAss,

The microtech will do everything you need it to do. I'm planning a very wierd setup, and the Microtech fits the bill for me, so for something as "normal" as a turbo 13B, you'll be fine.

The basics are that you can think of a standalone like a carb where you can set the jetting at every RPM point. The standalone will also perform all the choke functions automatically based on tuning. It also automatically compensates for cold weather or a cold engine, so you don't need to tune your carbs every season. Well, you also don't need to mess with a distributor - you just set the ignition advance/retard to where you want it for every RPM point available, as well as boost levels (or from vacuum to atmo at WOT).

Sounds pretty good, eh?

Join the list!

Brandon

Evil Aviator

What are you doing?

No7Yet

Yes.

Brandon

RotaryRevn

Bad *** Rx7, thats what I am plannning, I have a brand new motor and am probably gonna break it in with the map microtech gives me, then get it tuned later

Rotorious7

iTrader: (1)

I will be going fuel injection also and looking @ the LT8, got DEMO-please email me

@ blue_mountain@hotmail.com

Evil Aviator

Um, so why do you think a Microtech EMS is better for your project? I'm just wondering, because the Microtech products are very basic, and I wasn't aware that they could do anything special. What am I missing?

No7Yet

You're missing that even with an odd setup like mine, I don't require anything more than what the Microtech provides. I could do the job with an E11 or Wolf3Dv4, but I wouldn't gain anything except a much lighter wallet. And thus, if someone's going to walk down such a well-trodden path, the Microtech will surely be adequate.

Brandon

Evil Aviator

I will agree with that. Even a basic standalone EFI system like a Microtech can do wonders, and if you only need the basics, then there is no point in paying for unnecessary extras.

I didn't mean to pry, but I was honestly just wondering if Microtech had some type of special function now. I just like to keep up on technology when possible. Good luck with your project.

BTW, normally the LT8 would lighten your wallet as much as the other EMS products that you mentioned, were it not for your special group buy that undercuts the US Microtech dealers.

banzaitoyota

"BTW, normally the LT8 would lighten your wallet as much as the other EMS products that you mentioned, were it not for your special group buy that undercuts the US Microtech dealers." Such as a certain dealer in ?NJ: That claims all their is a US spec Microtech and thats why its 1500 BASE!!!

No7Yet

Now, now - let's not sling mud. Jon's extended this price to us, and that's all we need to know.

Brandon

RotaryRevn

Personally I have been looking at prices from several US Microtech dealers and it seems like they are trying to take advantage of the littleman hoping that we don't know what these things sell for in Austrailia, and know the currency exchange. I have always had good luck buying parts from Australia and have been able to get the parts at much cheaper than the US dealers will offer. I bought loadds of parts for my rx3 from down under with great sucess.

rxeng

Evil Aviator.
Have you had a good look through the new LT series Microtechs?????
You might get a big surprise at just how far the system has come in just a few years.The features will rival even some of the top end ecu's.
And for the price they cant be ignored!!!!
Be my guest,have a good look & give us all an honest opinion of what you think.I'm sure you will be impressed with the product you get for the price you pay.
RE gards
Jon

Evil Aviator

All hail the free market economy.

Finish your web site and I'll take a look.

Just from what I have seen of the LT series Microtechs on this forum, the main strides have been made in US user support. While I do maintain that this is one of the most important aspects of an EMS, I must still look at the meat and bones of the product, and quite frankly the Microtechs are a generation behind the newest Haltech and Wolf products that are in the same basic price range in the US. From what I have read of the LT8, the Haltech E11 and Wolf3DV4 have 10x better injector resolution, 4x the rpm bands, and 2-4x the load bands. I do realize that there is more to an EMS than these core assets, but the value of secondary controls, bells and whistles, and intangibles, is too subjective for comparison, and ultimately depends on the individual consumer.

Impressed with the product for the price? Yes, but only if the price stays at $800-850 USD for the LT8, hand controller, and software. That way its main competition is the $860 USD RB Holley carb kit, which basically means that there is no competition. When the LT8 price jumps to $1,200-1,500 USD, it now must compete with the E11 and Wolf3DV4, which seem to be slightly better products for most applications.

kabooski

Maybe it does not meet your ROAD RACING specs
there Dude.. But I really don't value opinions of road racers any way......

Turbo Timmy

I think the bottom line is get whatever system your tuner recommends and is most comfortable with. You can blow any motor with any standalone system out there.

10sec rx7

Dude chill

the way he wrote that was not bagging the microtech and he was answering a question.

to be perfectly honest i bet 90% of the turners that tune these other systems wouldnt even know what to do with all the extra resoultion the ecu has anyway, you will notice no difference in driving a well tuned microtech to a well tuned haltech,

Microtech = best value for money system in the world!

Dale

Evil Aviator

It's perfectly fine if you have that opinion, but road racing is where EFI is most valuable because even a horribly outdated carb is able to perform well at idle and WOT when tuned between 10-second runs. I have seen several ROAD RACING RX-7's perform extremely well with the old Wolf3DV3, which has similar rpm and load points as an LT8, and slightly less injector resolution. My point isn't that the LT8 is substandard, only that it does not have the resolution of the newest $1500 USD EMS products. If the LT8 is going to carry the same price tag as the other products, then I think it should have similar resolution. If the gurus at Microtech feel that less load and rpm bands are better for certain situations, then they can just add a resolution increase/decrease function as found on the Wolf3DV4. In defense of Microtech, the newest Wolf, Haltech, and AEM EMS products have only hit the market in the last few months, so Microtech isn't as far behind as it may seem. Regardless, if Microtech can sell a full EMS setup for under $1,000 USD, then there isn't really any significant competition in that price range at this time.

AusZenkiFc

Microtech LTX-8= $990 Australian

rxeng

The retail price on the LT8 is $1095 Aus.
The retail price on the LTX8 is $1345 Aus.This includes the coils.Some places advertise them for $995 but fail to tell you that they don't have the coils with them.

Rotorious7

iTrader: (1)

I live in Atlanta and my biggest concern is no help or Tuning in Atlanta. Hitman was here this pass weekend but who knows when he will return. And the Haltech support is the worse i have seen in a consumer end. So i welcome something new that will be competition for the other guys. Carb's is all me and Badass rx7 knowin the ATL and textbook tuning is not what i want to do. Transplanting A TII in B2200 so I need connecter kit & all the etc..