I have an s4 13bt with an atkins streetport, turbo is 60-1 and lt-8. I am running 4 750cc inj.( will be upgrading to 1000 secs) with an fd fuel pump (again temporary) I am not trying to run full power, just trying to get it running. I am able to get it to start but dies after 2-4 seconds and fouls the plugs. I have brand new plugs in and I am wondering what to change on the map to help it run better. It is anywhere from 5-15 degress C outside when trying to start it and I have this map uploaded
first post on page 2
https://www.rx7club.com/microtech-111/tii-stock-base-maps-343297/page2/
I have the fuel pump wired straight to the battery off a toggle switch. Should I lower the % value in correct temperture range in the crank screen?

 

try this map, remember you have to plug in all these settings not just some of them, and also my timing is set from 0*lock not -5* like factory


Idle
Screen 1

30" Hg ... 1.14
25" Hg ... 1.05
20" Hg ... 1.14
15" Hg ... 1.14
10" Hg ... 1.24
05" Hg ... 1.67
00" Hg ... 2.00

Load
Screen 3

30" ... 1.00
25" ... 1.10
20" ... 1.14
15" ... 1.24
10" ... 2.19
05" ... 2.29
00" ... 2.52
2psi ... 2.71
4psi ... 3.05
6psi ... 3.57
8psi ... 4.19
10psi ... 4.62
14psi ... 5.19
16psi ... 5.48
18psi ... 5.81
20psi ... 6.38

RPMwot
Screen 17

0500 ... +00%
1000 ... +00%
1500 ... +04%
2000 ... +11%
2500 ... +13%
3000 ... +00%
3500 ... +00%
4000 ... -04%
4500 ... -05%
5000 ... -05%
5500 ... +00%
6000 ... +00%
6500 ... -01%
7000 ... -03%
8000 ... -03%
9000 ... -03%

RPMcrs
Screen 18

0500 ... +00%
1000 ... +00%
1500 ... -15%
2000 ... -23%
2500 ... -18%
3000 ... -18%
3500 ... -19%
4000 ... -15%
4500 ... -03%
5000 ... +00%
5500 ... +00%
6000 ... +00%
6500 ... +00%
7000 ... +00%
7500 ... +00%
8000 ... +00%
9000 ... +00%

Pump
Screen 19

Pump1 Amt ... +11%
Pump1pulse ... +2%
Pump1Trig ... +14%
Pump1Stop ... 00"Hg
Pump2Start ...2000
Pump2Amt ... +25%
Pump2Time ... +10
Pump2Trig ... +16
Pump2Stop ... 00"Hg
Pump1ADV ... +5
Pump2ADV ... +5
Pump Dwell ... 3.00
Pump Timers ... NO
Pump1 Sync ... NO
Pump Spare ... +00%

Water
Screen 20

124 C ... +00%
99 C ... +00%
82 C ... +00%
68 C ... +08%
60 C ... +19%
46 C ... +25%
38 C ... +30%
31 C ... +36%
24 C ... +41%
18 C ... +47%
11 C ... +51%
5 C ... +54%
-1 C ... +00%
-9 C ... +00%
-17 C ... +00%
-25 C ... +00%

Air_t
Screen 21

124 C ... +00%
99 C ... +00%
82 C ... +00%
68 C ... +04%
60 C ... +03%
46 C ... +04%
38 C ... +00%
31 C ... +00%
24 C ... +00%
18 C ... +00%
11 C ... +00%
5 C ... +00%
-1 C ... +00%
-9 C ... +00%
-17 C ... +00%
-25 C ... +00%

Crank
Screen 22

124 C ... +00%
99 C ... +00%
82 C ... +00%
68 C ... +05%
60 C ... +15%
46 C ... +20%
38 C ... +26%
31 C ... +31%
24 C ... +41%
18 C ... +50%
11 C ... +57%
5 C ... +62%
-1 C ... +67%
-9 C ... +72%
-17 C ... +72%
-25 C ... 72%

t* rpm
Screen 23

Idle ... +11
1000 ... +11
1500 ... +15
2000 ... +20
2500 ... +20
3000 ... +20
3500 ... +20
4000 ... +20
4500 ... +20
5000 ... +20
5500 ... +20
6000 ... +20
6500 ... +20
7000 ... +20
8000 ... +20
9000 ... +20

t*map
Screen 24

20 psi ... -10
18 psi ... -08
16 psi ... -07
14 psi ... -05
10 psi ... -05
8 psi ... -05
6 psi ... -04
4 psi ... -02
2 psi ... +00
00"Hg ... +05
05"Hg ... +05
10"Hg ... +07
15"Hg ... +07
20"Hg ... +07
25"Hg ... +05
30"Hg ... +05

t*air
Screen 25

124 C ... +00%
99 C ... +00%
82 C ... +00%
68 C ... +00%
60 C ... +00%
46 C ... +00%
38 C ... +00%
31 C ... +00%
24 C ... +00%
18 C ... +00%
11 C ... +00%
5 C ... +00%
-1 C ... +00%
-9 C ... +00%
-17 C ... +00%
-25 C ... +00%

t*gap
Screen 26

0500 ... +15
1000 ... +15
1500 ... +15
2000 ... +15
2500 ... +15
3000 ... +15
3500 ... +15
4000 ... +15
4500 ... +15
5000 ... +15
5500 ... +15
6000 ... +15
6500 ... +15
7000 ... +15
8000 ... +15
9000 ... +15

t*Inj
Screen 27

0500 ... 120
1000 ... 150
1500 ... 150
2000 ... 150
2500 ... 150
3000 ... 150
3500 ... 180
4000 ... 180
4500 ... 210
5000 ... 210
5500 ... 210
6000 ... 240
6500 ... 240
7000 ... 270
8000 ... 270
9000 ... 270

t* wat
Screen 28

124 C ... +00
99 C ... +00
82 C ... +00
68 C ... +00
60 C ... +00
46 C ... +00
38 C ... +00
31 C ... +00
24 C ... +00
18 C ... +00
11 C ... +00
5 C ... +00
-1 C ... +00
-9 C ... +00
-17 C ... +00
-25 C ... +00

Option
Screen 30

Opt MIXtrm +00%
Opt TPScal +27%
Opt TIMtrm +00%
Opt Static +00%
Opt TIMmax +27
Opt RPMwot 04"Hg
Opt RPMcrs 17"Hg
Opt AF_ste +08%
Opt REVlim OFF
Opt REVcut OFF
Opt BstCUT 24psi
Opt REVstg 1750
Opt MAPstg 04"Hg
Opt %stg +85%
Opt Decel OFF
Opt Dwell 5.00

Screen 31

Config +04 Cyl/R
Firing SEQUENTIAL
LOAD = MAP Sensor
DWELL = Time base
Input Trig +POS
Spark Trig -NEG
Timing check OFF
Rpm_ON 2500 Log
Map_ON 02psi Log
Sample +00 Log
Spare +00 Log
SHIFT 9750 Dash
WATER 92 C Dash
Air_T 40 C Dash
BOOST 17psi Dash

 

I'll give this a shot tonight thanks rxspeed7

 

Loaded up that map and still it starts up real strong but dies after 2-3 seconds and floods. Had brand new plugs in and couldn't get it to fire again because there was too much gas. Any ideas as to why it's flooding?

 

Drained tank and replaced fuel filter with new plugs and fresh gas and I can't get it to fire up it just cranks and cranks. I do not currently have my Wideband wired back up would this have an affect on the car starting? Any suggestions? I'm at the point of pulling injectors to have ten tested but until now they haven't given me a single issue and have low miles on them as do the plug wires...

 

maybe excessive fuel pressure
.... have you by chance added an external FPR directly to the output from the stock FPR?

this is a no no

you must remove any original FPR from the circuit as you cannot drop pressure below that of the second FPR base setting

 

No I am still running stock fpr..this is racking my brain

 

If I am currently runnin 4x750cc would having my stg% at 85% and rpmstg at 1750 have anything to do with it not starting? I am going to play with this a little and see if it helps

 

make sure your tps is at 0 not + 27 as his map said fuel pressure at 43psi and try it you may have to take about 10-15 % out of mixtrm , if its to lean it will run and stall , check your spark
might pay to put 30-40 mm of 2 stroke oil in to the rotors to lube them up and help compression , if you have been flooding it that badly

 

Thanks for the input I'll give all that a try, I have the omp deleted so I know there is some lubrication already and I have deflooded it

 

And spark is good

 

yes
when you have 4 injectors same you set stage to 50%

if the value is higher than this the staging transition will be out and also the % factor is added to the UNSTAGED primary fuel injector period

therefore being 85% and not 50 % has this effect-
table value = 1.14 ms
stage value = 50%
then realtime value ( not including coolant and air temp table corrections ) = 1.14 + 0.57 ms
= 1.71 ms at idle

yet,, with 85% stage
1.14 + ( 85% )
= 1.99 ms at idle

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you must start your map with stage at 50% and go from there

 

i changed stg to 50% and moved the mixtrm to -5 and tps to +10 and it fired up, but died after 3-4 seconds. started up a few more times after that but without any progress. I am going to have another look around for any vac leaks..

 

ok, leave stage at 50 % and now instead use the mix trim to add fuel till it runs
when you know how much fuel that is,, you zero the mix trim and get out the calc and add that % to the idle and vacuum load maps

PS

if you can get the car to run,, stop tuning and keep car running till its up to temps,, then procede with the tune

this will stop you chasing your tail against the coolant map corrections as the car warms

 

Had to up mixtrim 50% to get it running but it ran nice. Thanks a lot! In going to add to the idle and vacuum maps and try to get a bit of a street tune

 

cool,, be sure to add that % ONLY to the idle and load maps in vacuum below the stage threshold
( ie,, if stage is set to zero psi , 3000 rpm,, all the idle and load vacuum maps )

once the motor has staged ( all injectors operational ) then the ECU will ignore the stage %
and the map values will be the same post staging as the original map you have parroted down

ie,, shifting that % stage factor effects only those values up till staging

 

Idle is very rich, sits around 9.4 and removing fuel on the idle screen doesnt help any what can I do to help this?

 

when its well set up,, it should be closer to 13:1
but some ported engines need to be radically rich to stabilise excessive exhaust gas reversion due to port timing overlaps

be sure you have primary and secondary wired the correct way around

and the issue may also be something related to injector pattern, air diffusion ( often removed )
or even injection angle related,, what do you have as data in screen 27 for revs below 2500 ?
( injection start crank angle )

 

injectors are wired up correctly, and it is a med streetport.
i have screen 27 set:
500-120
1000-150
1500-150
2000-150