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Old 11-13-05, 09:20 PM
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megasquirt ignition signal problem

ok... i know i wired it correctly, i bought the megasquirt 2.2 from diyautotune.com

the problem is, i cant get the megasquit to regonize rpm signal and squirt fuel. but i know the ECU is firing and the factory tach moves.

if i pour some gas into the port, i can get it to sputter.

the megasquirt would always read 0rpm.

any ideas?

i hooked it up to the same RPM signal that the AFC/whatever uses
and i also tried hooking it up to the VE-, and both would not work.
Old 11-13-05, 09:35 PM
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Sounds like you are wiring up in piggyback fashion, with stock ecu firing the plugs? I'm not certain where the AFC/whatever gets its tach signal, but if you are getting no reading now you either have an incompatible signal, or a wiring error. Triple-check the wiring for shorts and opens. If it checks out OK, then you can either figure out how to adapt the MS to accept that tach signal (details here: http://www.megasquirt.info/v22manual/mwire.htm#ignition), or choose an alternate tach signal soruce. I ran my first FC install from the -ve terminal of one of the coils. If you use leading, configure as 4-cylinder, if trailing, 2-cylinder.
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I know it is not the wiring. I made my harness, that didnt work - and then I bought a harness, and that didnt work either.
I tried the RPM signal, which is the fourth wire from the left on the S5, 3 wires down from the 12V IGN hot

and then i tried the VE- one that is also on the harness. that one should connect to the leading.

it is not reading rpm at all - while my tach is bouncing, the megasquirt tach stays at 0.
Old 11-13-05, 09:59 PM
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Sounds like you are hooking to the 5v signal line to the coilpacks? The stock tach circuit will not operate at that voltage level without modification. Take a look at the schematic on the link I sent you. See the diode labelled 'D8' with the name John beneath it? It's a zener type diode, which effectively blocks low-voltage signals from the circuit. This helps avoid false-triggers on many installations, but is likely preventing any triggering in your install. You could try jumpering that zener and re-testing, or just run a wire to the coilpack as mentioned previously.
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i am not sure. i looked at the link and i seemed to have it wired like that.
the VE- is on a pin on the ecu wiring harness, and that is the one i tapped to.
do i need to run a wire directly from engine bay to megasquirt and tap a different one? i thought they were the same as it is labeled VE- on the ecu wirign harness. can i have a picture of where you tapped yours if its not too much to ask?
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On my S4 install I didn't cut into the stock harness at all. I modified a stock ecu to get the required sensor signals, and ran a separate wire from the coil back to the MS for tach signal. Take a look at the coilpack. The coil itself has two small electrical connection studs. There are '+' and '-' markings molded right into the plastic of the coil body. Simply connect a wire from the '-' side, and run it back to the MS for a tach signal. It's best to run a shielded wire for this run, although many have got away without it.
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i see.
alright, i will give it a try on friday and let you know

thank you for your help.
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I used a FC coilpack and got my signal wire from the stray wire coming off the leading coil pack, not the +\- connector. I don't think they do anything except diagnostics maybe?
Anyways, I used unshielded wire and a 10k resistor in line with and got a real stable RPM input from that.
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Was that the extra tach line? I tried that, and it worked fine but then the in-dash tach read zero. Never tried the series resistor, as I was up by the coilpack already anyways...
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That's weird, I thought FCs used trailing as well for tach input.. Honestly, I don't know what stock purpose that wire serves.. I think it is disconnected on a stock setup? I am using the coilpack on a FB with a special ignition circuit and that wire works quite well as a MS ignition source, with the resistor in line that is.
I think it was Mike Robert that told me the trick with the potentiometer in series to find the correct value resistor, other folks' mileage may vary..
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im using the black round connector thingy that goes nowhere on the coil
it seems to work....
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Originally Posted by slpin
im using the black round connector thingy that goes nowhere on the coil
it seems to work....
Yea that's what I'm using right now, it's a female bullet connector right.

On the S4 turbo schematic it's F-39 check connector--a yellow/blue wire.
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