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Old 08-03-07, 03:32 PM
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TT FD3S vs S2000 w/ 2JZGT-E

Do i have any chance in beating this car...I am running full bolt-ons, ported wastegate at 13psi.

Is it worth trying to race an S2000 with a 2JZGTE Twin Turbo stock motor?

Planning on rolling from 45mph on interstate tonight let me know if I should risk it or not
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Old 08-03-07, 03:47 PM
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well we all know what kinda baals the 2jz makes even stock. With the s2000 the power to weight ratio makes a difference. ive seen these cars run and their fassst. now if ur racing for cash go online and research on stock hp numbers and s2000 weight as opposed to supra weight. itll be a good race
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well a stock 2jz has 320 horsepower and probably weighs a little more than an fd...I think it would be a close race but I would guess he would win. let us know the outcome.
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as mentioned above, the stock S2k weighs around 29xxlbs. With the 2JZ we'll say maybe 30xxlbs. so assuming you have a base or R1, you'd have maybe a 200-250lb advantage. so his 320 vs your 255, you'd lose..

edit: Oh wait, I just read you have full bolt ons and 13PSI. Assuming you have an ECU that's mapped for that much boost, you'll kill him. easy.
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Old 08-03-07, 04:50 PM
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2JZ in an S2000? I've got to see this!!! Thats cool!!!
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Old 08-03-07, 05:00 PM
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I have no respect for the shop that swaps 2JZs into S2ks because they have no respect for any other enigne/car. They are taking the "crappy" rotary out of an FD to swap in a 2jz. They actually said that in the video.
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Old 08-03-07, 05:12 PM
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^Oh, are they the ones that did the 2JZ into the yellow FD with blue Blitz wheels?
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Old 08-03-07, 06:02 PM
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I don't think so. IIRC the FD they had was MB.

I'll brbs with links to the thread from last year.

edit: https://www.rx7club.com/automotive-news-lounge-22/2jz-powered-s2000-%2Avideo-link%2A-594674/
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Old 08-03-07, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 1RevvinFC3S
2JZ in an S2000? I've got to see this!!! Thats cool!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WirkGXYdOus

1:38 is the road test, pretty amazing if you ask me.

I am a HUGE 2JZ fan so i would have to lean towards the 2JZ powered S2k soley because i know what this engine is capable of. The getrag matched with this engine makes this car a high flyer from 60 on up.

I seen this over and over with supras and i would imagine this to be only a better runner when this engine/tranny in a lighter car such as the s2k.

Your ONLY chance of winning is if you can drive first of all, get a good launch and hope he doesnt get traction til about 3rd cause once he hits 3rd, he will reel you in like he's going fishing.

Guess what? You're the fish here buddy lol
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**** if i no theres no chance to begin with im not gonna rag on my engine trying to race this guy
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Well you do have a chance, are you sure he didnt swap in a single?

Cause why would you swap in a 2JZ into an S2K and still use the stock twin turbo? That makes no sense. You're doing the swap for ultimate power to weight, those engines roar with singles.

Idk, if he does have the stock twin turbo, yes you do have a chance although my post still stands strong about them having awesome top end.

I suggest running from a dig and hope you get a good launch and he doesnt.
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Originally Posted by 1QWIK7
Well you do have a chance, are you sure he didnt swap in a single?

Cause why would you swap in a 2JZ into an S2K and still use the stock twin turbo? That makes no sense. You're doing the swap for ultimate power to weight, those engines roar with singles.

Idk, if he does have the stock twin turbo, yes you do have a chance although my post still stands strong about them having awesome top end.

I suggest running from a dig and hope you get a good launch and he doesnt.

yeah, yeah, I respect fully built 2jz...stock ones with tt, NO. Even if you strap it to a bike frame.
The race is from a 45mph roll. weight does not seem to be an advantage to either car. Power seems in favor of the FD. How is he getting his *** handed to him????
If it was a full bolt on 2jz or single turbo I'd more than agree with you.
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If its a stock 2jz engine swapped in there you will destroy it hands down.. your probably over 300rwhp and he has a stock 320bhp.... easy math.
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well supposedly hes on the stock twins, but my friend trying to convince me to race this guy says he has about as much done as I do and hes working on tuning it...so that obviously means hes got some higher boost/more airflow

i put down 322rwhp at 15psi in 3rd gear with stock catback..which is terrible, my boost controller was also bouncing like a racket ball. Ive finally straightened out the boost situation and its a flat number so...since im on stock fuel

Ill try 13.5psi, maintain 10.7-10.8 afr, ill pull back 1 degree timing from stock at 4500rpm +, and remove the stock catback so that I run full 3 inch\

I should be right at 300-315
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Why dont you look at the car itself and find out what he has if you're really concerned about losing to him.

I highly doubt he still has the stock twin turbo in there but you never know.

And you dont need to have a "built" 2JZ to make some serious power. The engine has forged internals, capable OF achieving 1000HP on stock bottom end.

****, those engines can make 600RWHP on certain turbo kits with the stock fuel system.

All he needs to be a destroyer of worlds on the road is a T78 and he's set. Turbo good for massive power without touching anything.

I say good luck under that hood before you go crazy.
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Originally Posted by 1QWIK7
Why dont you look at the car itself and find out what he has if you're really concerned about losing to him.

I highly doubt he still has the stock twin turbo in there but you never know.

And you dont need to have a "built" 2JZ to make some serious power. The engine has forged internals, capable OF achieving 1000HP on stock bottom end.

****, those engines can make 600RWHP on certain turbo kits with the stock fuel system.

All he needs to be a destroyer of worlds on the road is a T78 and he's set. Turbo good for massive power without touching anything.

I say good luck under that hood before you go crazy.
why not? I just ditched the stock tt's that came with my FD...after almost 10 years. lol

600 with the stock fuel sys. thats nice! I had no idea they had that much room to play with...then again, the stock tt max out at what?

i think it would make a pretty good race! Just run the guy...get it on vid!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd do it for the fun of it! but thats me.
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Originally Posted by 2FAST7S
why not? I just ditched the stock tt's that came with my FD...after almost 10 years. lol

600 with the stock fuel sys. thats nice! I had no idea they had that much room to play with...then again, the stock tt max out at what?

i think it would make a pretty good race! Just run the guy...get it on vid!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd do it for the fun of it! but thats me.

Im not 100 percent sure but i believe 18psi.

Thats why its not worth it. If you can, cough up the extra dough and go with a fast spooling single that will sure enough range you in the 500-600.

I wont ever understand and i think its dumb to be "BPU". I hate that BS term. O yeah, my supra is BPU++++++++++++++++++++. That means its still tame.

Strap up a single and go hunting. lol
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Guys are making close to 500RWHP on stock twin supras.. just because its on stock twins doesnt mean its stock. Just like people here have ran 10sec 1/4 on stock twins. I own an S2000.. and I dont think Id want more than 4-500HP in that car
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Originally Posted by Rxmfn7
I own an S2000..
I thought you sold your S2k like 6 months ago.
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I think you may be thinking of someone else.. I just bought mine like 4 months ago.

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I thought you sold your S2k like 6 months ago.
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Originally Posted by Rxmfn7
Guys are making close to 500RWHP on stock twin supras.. just because its on stock twins doesnt mean its stock. Just like people here have ran 10sec 1/4 on stock twins. I own an S2000.. and I dont think Id want more than 4-500HP in that car

Well people have different ways of classifying cars as "stock" or not. If the engine is untouched, i call it stock, regardless if theres a T88 turbo with all supporting mods to it. I will say the engine is stock but the car isnt.

And i dont know about you but i have never seen a supra with the stock twins making 500rwhp.

They max out pretty quick. All this BPU+++++++++ and ---------, thats just for bragging rights but they still produce the same amount of power. lol

Its go single or go home.
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Originally Posted by Rxmfn7
I think you may be thinking of someone else.. I just bought mine like 4 months ago.
You're right, I was thinking of mirabile who lives in Ambler and sold his S2k in December.
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Lmao

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Hahahahahahaha, that is so funny man. Cant stop laughing...thanks
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