Killed a 396WHP twin turbo 350Z and got killed by a 780WHP Supra
Originally Posted by Rx7thHeaven
rotorownsyou7 is correct, TT supras weigh in right at 3400lbs and an FD will be in the 2800lb range. Both cars will be a touch lighter because of the single turbo setup. FB II... I am in winston salem, who is the guy in charlotte with the supra you are talking about? I might know of him. I know I am going to be argued with about this, but I feel that I have a very good perspective on supras, I have 4 friends around me with supras, 3 of which are single turbos 2 of which I helped convert to single, one car making almost 800rwhp and the other 2 making a shade over 500 rwhp on pump gas and stock fuel systems. I have had my car in 2 different single turbo configurations, once with a T78 and i also had an SP74 turbo I made 442rwhp with the T78 at 18psi and 404 rwhp at 15psi. We have raced numerous times and I have NEVER beaten any of the supras. I am talking about highway runs where driving is really not a factor. In MY experience the weight calculations do not always work, Especially on the highway where weight is LESS of a factor (notice i said "less" and not "not a factor") I think that the supras huge advantage in torque over the 7 plays a large part also. When I made 442rwhp I only made 333rwtq and when the supra makes 520rwhp it is also making 500+ rwtq. Again these are only my experiences. Flame suit now firmly secured
agreed
a 780rwhp supra will WALK a 400rwhp FD..and i know this because i saw it before my eyes..well this one mkiv was making 700rwhp but still..it still WALKED this 400rwhp..
i know the FD's advantage is awesome power to weight but when dealing with a 700hp beast, those tables are turned..
Originally Posted by FB II
you sir don't know what the hell you are talking about. my close buddy here has a 94 supra.. stock motor, trust single turbo kit t76, map ecu, 14psi 500rwhp.... 20psi 655rwhp both ON PUMP GAS!!!!! he just raced an r1 a couple days ago and pulled a couple car lengths on it. raced him twice to make sure there was no error
supras, no matter how much they weigh, have an engine that is just fuggin terror. he's shooting for 750 - 800rwhp with race gas. if you'd like a dyno chart give me your email. sux to say... the 7 will almost always lose to an equally modded supra 
supras, no matter how much they weigh, have an engine that is just fuggin terror. he's shooting for 750 - 800rwhp with race gas. if you'd like a dyno chart give me your email. sux to say... the 7 will almost always lose to an equally modded supra 

he beat a ~568 hp supra few months back and he had 407 or so hp.
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BTW, the Supra and the 350 weigh the same, with half the power you only beat the 350 by 2 cars. so 380 WHP only equals 3 and a half cars?
Not saying anything against you but something just sounds crazy.[/QUOTE]
so are you saying that if the rx-7 has 100hp less than a supra has a FD can still keep up with it?
JUST CURIOUS CAUSE A 600HP SUPRA WANTS TO RACE ME!
Not saying anything against you but something just sounds crazy.[/QUOTE]
so are you saying that if the rx-7 has 100hp less than a supra has a FD can still keep up with it?
JUST CURIOUS CAUSE A 600HP SUPRA WANTS TO RACE ME!
Last edited by darkphantom; Aug 1, 2005 at 03:40 PM.
Originally Posted by razorback
wheres apneablue? 
he beat a ~568 hp supra few months back and he had 407 or so hp.

he beat a ~568 hp supra few months back and he had 407 or so hp.
There are a few highly modded supras here in town and I know and have run with all of them. One running right around 800 to the wheel with no2 and the other I raced has 550 and a bit more with a shot of no2...I raced the 550rwhp one some months back when his no2 wasn't squirting and it was almost even. We went from 2nd -4th but he definately missed 4th...But in each gear I was inching on him...Not terribly but deffinately gaining.
Now, he's upgraded and his last dyno was upwards of 600 and he's will be in the 900s soon...I have nothing agains supras, they are stong and easy to put down a **** load of power...But when you say equally modded, what exactly do you mean?
I just know for sure a power matched race between a supra and an FD the Supra will loose badly becaue of the power to weight ratio.
Here's the race for those interested.
Originally Posted by ulost2my7
agreed
a 780rwhp supra will WALK a 400rwhp FD..and i know this because i saw it before my eyes..well this one mkiv was making 700rwhp but still..it still WALKED this 400rwhp..
i know the FD's advantage is awesome power to weight but when dealing with a 700hp beast, those tables are turned..
a 780rwhp supra will WALK a 400rwhp FD..and i know this because i saw it before my eyes..well this one mkiv was making 700rwhp but still..it still WALKED this 400rwhp..
i know the FD's advantage is awesome power to weight but when dealing with a 700hp beast, those tables are turned..
http://apneablue.com/rx7/videos/AdilvsRX7.mpeg
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Originally Posted by apneablue
what's the difference between a 500rwhp supra and a 800rwhp supra?They both run 12s!

i dont know about that. check out this supra with 600hp getting close to 9's (maybe his gearing is different or a quick spool turbo)
its near the end of the video
http://chronictel.net/videos/misc/vi...onextended.wmv
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Originally Posted by ulost2my7
that turbo is300 and the supra were ******* fast as hell
those damn 2JZ engines, i love them!!!
those damn 2JZ engines, i love them!!!
you think you can beat them.
didnt you have some hot ***-looking avatar?
Originally Posted by darkphantom
you think you can beat them.
didnt you have some hot ***-looking avatar?
didnt you have some hot ***-looking avatar?
i never had an avatar throughout my entire time as a member on this site..
and no i dont think i can beat a worked 2JZ or even a stock 2JZ with a big single..those engines are no joke..i might if i had HUGE single, ported with all the goods, maybe spending about 15g's but i still wont have the relibility of the 2JZ..
thats why im thinking about doing a 2JZ swap when my motor goes and i know that will happen soon enough..
Originally Posted by ForceFed
Post up his dyno sheet. Go to ImageShack.us for FREE hosting. Who's your close buddy with the Supra? What color is it? Auto or 6 speed? I'm usually on the in and ins and I don't know of any Supras in Charlotte making 655 on pump gas? Is this a Team Rush car? Who did the work? If his car is legit and he's beating bikes, he should race one of the Underground Racing Vipers. That would be a fun race to watch 

no, nothing to do with team rush. i do know what supra you are thinking of tho.. my friends name is john (i'll keep his last name off the boards). it's a 94 6spd, painted s2000 silver. 19" polished wheels (not sure what kind, german tho). Trust T78 kit, upgraded cams, dual walbro fuel pumps, fuel and ignition controlled with a "map ecu", not enough dyno time EGT's still barely hitting over 650c made 649.5 rwhp at 22psi on 93 octane with a 50/50 meth/water mix. if you want to see this car in person, come out to the meet at Quaker Steak and lube this saturday Aug 6th... starts at 5pm. i'll have my turbo 1st gen rx7 out as well. actually, there will be alot of supras as it's pretty much a supra meet
i asked him for his dyno sheet, i'll get it tomorrow and take a pic or scan it. i know you all are haters but i'll show you the truth. he's worked hard on his car, him and his brother are fuggin auto gurus, especially when it comes to the 2jz's. we tuned his brothers is300 thursday morning before a beach trip and he did almost 450rwhp at 14psi with a GT40. both cars were dyno'd at CP RACING in charlotte, NC. ask them if you dont believe still. i'll try to get the dyno sheet up next time i'm on. PEACEoh and you have the cym FD right? i havent seen you out in forever, maybe that's why even tho you are on the "in and in's" you dont know about this supra. you should bring your car out to the meet this saturday for real. it's gonna be fun. take care,
-zac
Originally Posted by ulost2my7
that turbo is300 and the supra were ******* fast as hell
those damn 2JZ engines, i love them!!!
those damn 2JZ engines, i love them!!!
Originally Posted by 7THSIGN
yes! toyota power! lol, but what about that great little inline 4 3SGTE??? 

thats great too but its not the most dominant
the 2JZ is by far the hemi of japanese car engines IMHO..
like people praise the hemi like o it has a hemi, it has to be fast etc etc..
i think the 2JZ is the god of import engines..IMO, well the god of import engines produced in the USA..
Originally Posted by ulost2my7
thats great too but its not the most dominant
the 2JZ is by far the hemi of japanese car engines IMHO..
like people praise the hemi like o it has a hemi, it has to be fast etc etc..
i think the 2JZ is the god of import engines..IMO, well the god of import engines produced in the USA..
the 2JZ is by far the hemi of japanese car engines IMHO..
like people praise the hemi like o it has a hemi, it has to be fast etc etc..
i think the 2JZ is the god of import engines..IMO, well the god of import engines produced in the USA..
Originally Posted by apneablue
Supras almost always need right at 100rwhp more than the FD to hang and then quite a bit more to pull considerably on the FD.
There are a few highly modded supras here in town and I know and have run with all of them. One running right around 800 to the wheel with no2 and the other I raced has 550 and a bit more with a shot of no2...I raced the 550rwhp one some months back when his no2 wasn't squirting and it was almost even. We went from 2nd -4th but he definately missed 4th...But in each gear I was inching on him...Not terribly but deffinately gaining.
Now, he's upgraded and his last dyno was upwards of 600 and he's will be in the 900s soon...I have nothing agains supras, they are stong and easy to put down a **** load of power...But when you say equally modded, what exactly do you mean?
I just know for sure a power matched race between a supra and an FD the Supra will loose badly becaue of the power to weight ratio.
Here's the race for those interested.
There are a few highly modded supras here in town and I know and have run with all of them. One running right around 800 to the wheel with no2 and the other I raced has 550 and a bit more with a shot of no2...I raced the 550rwhp one some months back when his no2 wasn't squirting and it was almost even. We went from 2nd -4th but he definately missed 4th...But in each gear I was inching on him...Not terribly but deffinately gaining.
Now, he's upgraded and his last dyno was upwards of 600 and he's will be in the 900s soon...I have nothing agains supras, they are stong and easy to put down a **** load of power...But when you say equally modded, what exactly do you mean?
I just know for sure a power matched race between a supra and an FD the Supra will loose badly becaue of the power to weight ratio.
Here's the race for those interested.
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Originally Posted by evileagle
It's like the old addage about Supras.
What do a 1200hp Supra and a 400hp Supra have in common?
They both run 12s.
What do a 1200hp Supra and a 400hp Supra have in common?
They both run 12s.
Originally Posted by IndyKid
yup, i knew that was gonna happen



