my FD mods Dp and Cat back STI stock

I took my Seven out for some spirtited driving and on along the way i ran into a STI we talked at a light. small talk (nice car! what do you have done to it? etc.) then it was on! we drive for a couple of miles until we hit a open strecth of road. at around the 60 mph i'm in third i give three honks then where off i jump ahead by 5 cars and pulled on him.
i let him catch up and he said he wasn't ready. so i said ok you start it off. we drop down to 25mph/2nd gear and i brake boost(first time ever it really does help!) he beeps three times i get one car length on him into 3rd streched out to 3 cars into 4th and then streched in to four cars! i know that a STI is heavy and the four wheel drive doesn't help but i really wasn't impressed with the STI's performance. but if it was a standing start i would have to chace him down. but thats my kill i love my FD

 

yeah, stock STIs from a roll are a joke

 

Even last time I was at the track I was rather disappointed to see the STIs performance in the 1/4. There were at least 3-4 modified WRXs there, and 2 STIs with just exhausts, and I dont think a single one of them broke out of the 14s that night, with trap speeds in the high 90s. ( I think 1 STI trapped 102). If it was just one or 2, I would say it was a coincidence, but that many running that slow? My lightly modded FD cracked off a 13.5@105 that night, and that was with a 2.2 60', so its not like track conditions were that bad. Good kill though

 

thanks yeah i was upset that it wasn't a better race. i have a buddy that used to work at subaru and he said the first shippment of STI's to this part of the US pulled hard and fast and the second shipping didn't pull nearly as hard. i think the STi's are weaker then the 300hp@flywheel they are maketed with. befor someone buys one they should take it to the dyno and see if its making the power they say its making. With a formula of course for the drive line loss. maybe they could knok a couple grand off the price if its not.

 

A STi owner told me that the first Sti's ran high 12's and really low 13's or something like that, but due to some sort of default in the first batch the next batch ran around mid 13's to be "safer." Can someone clarify this?

Any rate... highway speeds and AWD don't mix at all. Drivetrain loss is killer. Unless you have big power....don't try to be "wangan man" with a (continuos..so skylines need not apply)AWD system because it sucks the power at high speeds.

 

Their focking fast in touge events though. A good driver with an STI is on average consistently 2 seconds faster for every one minute of Touge compared to my modded FD and me driving. Both on race tires mind you. They understeer like pigs, but the AWD allows them to use the throttle to steer around corners and get on the gas earlier.

 

actually i thought thats a pretty good kill given your lite mods and that u put 4 cars on him. stock vs stock the sti is faster i think.

 

The very first bach had a problem with 91oct gass in CA causing knocking, and there was a factory reflash to fix this. The next batch came with the reflash, making evan the guys in other states with 93oct slower. I have a STi around me that will lay ruber into 3rd, and a regular WRX running 13.1's at 98mph. Not a roll racer thats for sure.

 

Trap speed no 1/4 time yes.

 

Maybe from a dead stop but no way from a roll. I raced an 04 STI that was modded out and sponsored. Full exhaust, new turbo, injectors, etc etc. All I had was a dp and cb. We went from 40 and we were even until I hit third and my second turbo hit then I pulled about a car on him. I know he had a lot more power than I did but the drivetrain loss for him and his gearing being a lot shorter than mine was the major factor. I'm sure he was a good driver or he wouldn't have been sponsored like he was. He was a cool guy though complemented me on my car and how nice my exhaust sounded. Maybe stock vs. stock an STI is faster but I just figure If have an exhaust and he has got a bunch more done than I do then stock I could take him as well.

 

I've been around alot of subies, Standard WRX stock and modded as well as STI stock and modded. Alot of these kids that own them have no clue how to launch these cars and are stuck in the 14s. From what i hear from friends, stock its easy as hell to launch if you know anything but once you start making power with bigger turbos or bolt-ons it becomes a battle for grip in both the clutch and tires.

STOCK sti my friend ran a 13 flat 1/4. Exhaust in a '05 sti ran a 12.8
From a roll they aren't nearly as quick, typical drivetrain loss issues. It sucked because we would constantly drive around looking for races but everyone wanted to go from a roll which we instantly new the results with the simplist cars.

 

maybe to be fair if i see another one to have one pull at a dead stop, the other a rolling start.

 

say huh? those mods only give the FD MAYbe 15 more hp, if that. i had those mods done to mine for awhile and i didnt feel the big kick until i added an intake.

 

I have a dp and cb and thats it and it added a ton. I've had lots of guys with FD's tell me that when they added their downpipe that alone gave them around 30hp. I'm sure mine did because my car pulls hard as hell. I've beaten a ton of modded and non modded cars that on paper should have beat me. With my exhaust I beat a 04 modded mustang mach1 by a couple car lengths from a 40mph roll.

 

whats brake boost?

 

you brake and add throttel to get your boost up and maintain your speed. so as soon as you go WOT your already at full boost. its pretty fun the car really takes off as if it was a standing start.

 

i'd like to know how that number came along. I have dp, midpipe, catback, intake, street clutch, and an upgraded ECU and i should be sitting around 275-280, which is only 40 -45 more hp than stock (real numbers not road and track). i think these guys are pulling your leg.
im not saying your car is slow, i was pointing out that your STI race was basically stock vs stock. you should also give yourself some credit, i came in .3 seconds behind a 04 mach 1 on slicks at the 1/8th

 

If the claim is that the DP and exhaust added that much power, its most likely in feel. Understandbly, the FD does lose a good portion of its weight when you modify the exhaust, and at the same time gains power. So actual numbers may not have given that dramatic an increase in power, but with the addition of even less weight it may "feel" like it.

 

intake, full exhaust, and ecu and more boost = 300rwhp. i have dyno chart and a trap speed that backs it up.

a dp is good for 20-30 rwhp.

 

yeah i just bought ecu and RE intake i'll get my car dynoed and come up with a number

 

STi's can reach 400+ hp safely with very low cost (WRX Tuners.com if anyone is interested in researching the infamous flat 4) ... they can become extremely fast. One of the fastest launches I've ever had. Not really the ideal drag car though... when the car starts to go fast enough, the front wheels actually create drag.. like romancer says.. the awd power dies at high speeds. I love and respect the hell out of the STi. That car is deadly in any race that involves more than a straight line.

 

Nope.......

Stock for stock Fd is faster.....

Check my thread where I walked a new sti with a stock FD...

 

why was he in 2nd @ 25mph