FD vs WRX STI(two races same outcome)
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FD vs WRX STI(two races same outcome)
my FD mods Dp and Cat back STI stock
I took my Seven out for some spirtited driving and on along the way i ran into a STI we talked at a light. small talk (nice car! what do you have done to it? etc.) then it was on! we drive for a couple of miles until we hit a open strecth of road. at around the 60 mph i'm in third i give three honks then where off i jump ahead by 5 cars and pulled on him.
i let him catch up and he said he wasn't ready. so i said ok you start it off. we drop down to 25mph/2nd gear and i brake boost(first time ever it really does help!) he beeps three times i get one car length on him into 3rd streched out to 3 cars into 4th and then streched in to four cars! i know that a STI is heavy and the four wheel drive doesn't help but i really wasn't impressed with the STI's performance. but if it was a standing start i would have to chace him down. but thats my kill i love my FD
I took my Seven out for some spirtited driving and on along the way i ran into a STI we talked at a light. small talk (nice car! what do you have done to it? etc.) then it was on! we drive for a couple of miles until we hit a open strecth of road. at around the 60 mph i'm in third i give three honks then where off i jump ahead by 5 cars and pulled on him.
i let him catch up and he said he wasn't ready. so i said ok you start it off. we drop down to 25mph/2nd gear and i brake boost(first time ever it really does help!) he beeps three times i get one car length on him into 3rd streched out to 3 cars into 4th and then streched in to four cars! i know that a STI is heavy and the four wheel drive doesn't help but i really wasn't impressed with the STI's performance. but if it was a standing start i would have to chace him down. but thats my kill i love my FD
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Even last time I was at the track I was rather disappointed to see the STIs performance in the 1/4. There were at least 3-4 modified WRXs there, and 2 STIs with just exhausts, and I dont think a single one of them broke out of the 14s that night, with trap speeds in the high 90s. ( I think 1 STI trapped 102). If it was just one or 2, I would say it was a coincidence, but that many running that slow? My lightly modded FD cracked off a 13.5@105 that night, and that was with a 2.2 60', so its not like track conditions were that bad. Good kill though
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thanks yeah i was upset that it wasn't a better race. i have a buddy that used to work at subaru and he said the first shippment of STI's to this part of the US pulled hard and fast and the second shipping didn't pull nearly as hard. i think the STi's are weaker then the 300hp@flywheel they are maketed with. befor someone buys one they should take it to the dyno and see if its making the power they say its making. With a formula of course for the drive line loss. maybe they could knok a couple grand off the price if its not.
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A STi owner told me that the first Sti's ran high 12's and really low 13's or something like that, but due to some sort of default in the first batch the next batch ran around mid 13's to be "safer." Can someone clarify this?
Any rate... highway speeds and AWD don't mix at all. Drivetrain loss is killer. Unless you have big power....don't try to be "wangan man" with a (continuos..so skylines need not apply)AWD system because it sucks the power at high speeds.
Any rate... highway speeds and AWD don't mix at all. Drivetrain loss is killer. Unless you have big power....don't try to be "wangan man" with a (continuos..so skylines need not apply)AWD system because it sucks the power at high speeds.
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Their focking fast in touge events though. A good driver with an STI is on average consistently 2 seconds faster for every one minute of Touge compared to my modded FD and me driving. Both on race tires mind you. They understeer like pigs, but the AWD allows them to use the throttle to steer around corners and get on the gas earlier.
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Originally Posted by Romancer
A STi owner told me that the first Sti's ran high 12's and really low 13's or something like that, but due to some sort of default in the first batch the next batch ran around mid 13's to be "safer." Can someone clarify this?
Any rate... highway speeds and AWD don't mix at all. Drivetrain loss is killer. Unless you have big power....don't try to be "wangan man" with a (continuos..so skylines need not apply)AWD system because it sucks the power at high speeds.
Any rate... highway speeds and AWD don't mix at all. Drivetrain loss is killer. Unless you have big power....don't try to be "wangan man" with a (continuos..so skylines need not apply)AWD system because it sucks the power at high speeds.
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actually i thought thats a pretty good kill given your lite mods and that u put 4 cars on him. stock vs stock the sti is faster i think.
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I've been around alot of subies, Standard WRX stock and modded as well as STI stock and modded. Alot of these kids that own them have no clue how to launch these cars and are stuck in the 14s. From what i hear from friends, stock its easy as hell to launch if you know anything but once you start making power with bigger turbos or bolt-ons it becomes a battle for grip in both the clutch and tires.
STOCK sti my friend ran a 13 flat 1/4. Exhaust in a '05 sti ran a 12.8
From a roll they aren't nearly as quick, typical drivetrain loss issues. It sucked because we would constantly drive around looking for races but everyone wanted to go from a roll which we instantly new the results with the simplist cars.
STOCK sti my friend ran a 13 flat 1/4. Exhaust in a '05 sti ran a 12.8
From a roll they aren't nearly as quick, typical drivetrain loss issues. It sucked because we would constantly drive around looking for races but everyone wanted to go from a roll which we instantly new the results with the simplist cars.
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Originally Posted by matty
actually i thought thats a pretty good kill given your lite mods and that u put 4 cars on him. stock vs stock the sti is faster i think.
say huh? those mods only give the FD MAYbe 15 more hp, if that. i had those mods done to mine for awhile and i didnt feel the big kick until i added an intake.
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say huh? those mods only give the FD MAYbe 15 more hp, if that. i had those mods done to mine for awhile and i didnt feel the big kick until i added an intake.
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you brake and add throttel to get your boost up and maintain your speed. so as soon as you go WOT your already at full boost. its pretty fun the car really takes off as if it was a standing start.
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Originally Posted by furious_rotation
I have a dp and cb and thats it and it added a ton. I've had lots of guys with FD's tell me that when they added their downpipe that alone gave them around 30hp. .
im not saying your car is slow, i was pointing out that your STI race was basically stock vs stock. you should also give yourself some credit, i came in .3 seconds behind a 04 mach 1 on slicks at the 1/8th
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i'd like to know how that number came along. I have dp, midpipe, catback, intake, street clutch, and an upgraded ECU and i should be sitting around 275-280, which is only 40 -45 more hp than stock (real numbers not road and track). i think these guys are pulling your leg.
im not saying your car is slow, i was pointing out that your STI race was basically stock vs stock. you should also give yourself some credit, i came in .3 seconds behind a 04 mach 1 on slicks at the 1/8th
im not saying your car is slow, i was pointing out that your STI race was basically stock vs stock. you should also give yourself some credit, i came in .3 seconds behind a 04 mach 1 on slicks at the 1/8th
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Originally Posted by Meiogirl
i'd like to know how that number came along. I have dp, midpipe, catback, intake, street clutch, and an upgraded ECU and i should be sitting around 275-280, which is only 40 -45 more hp than stock (real numbers not road and track). i think these guys are pulling your leg.
im not saying your car is slow, i was pointing out that your STI race was basically stock vs stock. you should also give yourself some credit, i came in .3 seconds behind a 04 mach 1 on slicks at the 1/8th
im not saying your car is slow, i was pointing out that your STI race was basically stock vs stock. you should also give yourself some credit, i came in .3 seconds behind a 04 mach 1 on slicks at the 1/8th
a dp is good for 20-30 rwhp.
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Originally Posted by Romancer
A STi owner told me that the first Sti's ran high 12's and really low 13's or something like that, but due to some sort of default in the first batch the next batch ran around mid 13's to be "safer." Can someone clarify this?
Any rate... highway speeds and AWD don't mix at all. Drivetrain loss is killer. Unless you have big power....don't try to be "wangan man" with a (continuos..so skylines need not apply)AWD system because it sucks the power at high speeds.
Any rate... highway speeds and AWD don't mix at all. Drivetrain loss is killer. Unless you have big power....don't try to be "wangan man" with a (continuos..so skylines need not apply)AWD system because it sucks the power at high speeds.
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Originally Posted by matty
actually i thought thats a pretty good kill given your lite mods and that u put 4 cars on him. stock vs stock the sti is faster i think.
Stock for stock Fd is faster.....
Check my thread where I walked a new sti with a stock FD...
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