smg944

iTrader: (34)

i can just about pull a half car on a c6 z06 and i have over 400whp. they are fast cars. im guessing this guy was just fooling with you, or it was a c5.

KillaKitiie

Ya know if you wind up the rubber band the fan can give like 30hp kinda like nitrous.

1QWIK7

iTrader: (33)

Cause like i said which YOU DIDNT read, the Z wasnt racing or the OP is bullshitting.

From reading the OP's thread along with some of the comments that came along with it, i say i did a good job in "keeping it real".

So tell me, how would i have worded it better? Saying, "wow man, NICE KILL, you beat the new Z06!! Even though the Z runs 11s STOCK and you car is barely 12.5" GOOD JOB MAN!!! LOL please

You own an FD and you cant even determine what could beat what. LOL Look at his mods, just by going by that, there IS NO WAY he could have beaten a Z06 on a highway pull where driver error is RARELY a factor in the outcome of the race. I mean who cant shift from 3rd to 4th really fast? Judging the gearing on the Z, all he had to was go WOT in 3rd and 4th.

So again thanks for reading but not comprehending. I didnt say its IMPOSSIBLE for a modded rx7 to beat the Z.

I SAID ITS IMPOSSIBLE FOR HISSSSSSS FD to beat that Z06.

Thanks for playing.

adam c

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Yeah, why would anyone do that

YELLOWGSLSE

iTrader: (7)

No. I DID read that part, which is exactly why I said what I said. (Which you're STILL trying to avoid) Under what twisted logic would the owner of a much faster car LET a slower car walk it to 120+ if the driver was NOT RACING??? Thank YOU for reading and not comprehending.


Obviously, you're still confused. Calling BS whenever a 7 owner post a kill that YOU don't believe is NOT "keeping it real". Considering all possible scenerios and being open to them is TRULY keeping it real. And that's what I'm doing. All the while, never losing sight of the fact that the Z06 was probably the FASTER car here.
Yes. Especially considering the fact that, so often on this board when an FD loses to a supposedly slower car and the owner tries to "clarify" why he lost, he's met with comments like "a kill is a kill, stop whining".
And what if he didn't do this and left it in 5th (or 6th) because he just KNEW his car was so much fatser than the 7???? Something to think about.
A while back when I had an Apex'i catback, I was on the highway when a Prelude with a fart can came up beside me and revved. Forgetting that I still had my silencer in the pipe (which killed like 40% of the car's power) I punched it, boost went to 6psi maybe, and he walked. Now, obviously my 7 was the FASTER CAR, but under those CIRCUMSTANCES, it was walked by the slower car, thus The Prelude "won" that "race".

SOOOO, I'm saying that under the right circumstance, it IS possible for HISSSSSSS FD to have beaten that Z06. Because AGAIN, it's not always about which car is faster. That is the REALity of the situation. So RELAX, deal with it, and move on.

Oh, and thanks for playing.

1QWIK7

iTrader: (33)

Nah i read it and i understood it but it makes no sense, well when talking about the real importance at hand. HE DIDNT BEAT HIM. So it doesnt matter if the Z got up to 200 and let the 7 walk him from there. Doesnt matter if the Z tried from 10mph and stopped at 80 and let the 7 walk him from there. We're talking about a faster car vs a slower car. Doesnt matter what equation you put it in, the faster car will win.

UNLESS. LIKE I SAID.

THE Z DRIVER WASNT RACING!!!!!

Clear enough?



I would love to give the benefit of the doubt to the OP's. Maybe he just raced a base C6 and beat him. Good for him. He's saying he beat a Z06, thats not possible FOR HIM, well HIS CAR. So i have to correct him.


And how many times have i said the Z wasnt racing?

If you want to be realistic. Yes a kill is a kill. We dont know all the other factors that played in this race. Im talking about technically, he wont have won this race. The Z is a faster car, plain and simple. Not even by a little but by alot. And with a highway race, i wouldnt even say its a drivers race.



Sure, like i said a kill is a kill according to this forum. But hey, WE ALLL can beat lambos and ferraris right? I mean under those circumstances and all. Yeah thats it. I think ill go beat a ferrari tonight!! Thanks man, ill prob beat him under those circumstances.

Thanks for helping me play. At least i know theres a chance for slower cars to beat faster cars. AS long as the circumstances are favoring us!!!

YELLOWGSLSE

iTrader: (7)

You are truly an idiot if you believe this. Get off the Vette's nuts. It is a faster car, but it is not unbeatable. AGAIN....... this pull was not about which car was faster, it was about who was best prepared to go to 120+mph on the highway AT THAT TIME. If the driver of the faster car is not racing PROPERLY (still racing though) ie, in too high a gear, HE WILL LOSE to 120 mph if the ultimately slower (but not slow) car IS in the proper gear. They were both still RACING. End of story. If they had done it again, and both cars started in say, 3rd gear, OF COURSE the Vette would win because THE VETTE IS FASTER, but in THIS RACE, it lost. GET OVER IT.

Scrapiron7

They are beatable, just not by the OPs car/mods.

Julian

iTrader: (14)

Because with gearing you are still making more torque at wheels than in next higher gear and on shifting you fall back into climbing power curve.

LT1 RX7

Nice Kill! Try and get a video next time.

matty

additionally when u have aftermkt ecu u continue to make power for a longer time.

mothy

damn you guys are both still arguing and the op doesnt even give a ****, get over it.

1QWIK7

iTrader: (33)

Do you read or do you just wanna believe what you want regardless of whats being said?

I didnt say its unbeatable, i just said the OP DID NOT BEAT HIM. Ok wait, maybe i used the words wrong. THE OP CAN NOT, CAN NOT BEAT HIM.

So if all you're arguing is, "run what you brung", "it doesnt matter if you win by a inch or a mile, winning is winning". LOL Then i guess you're not gonna go anywhere with that mentality.

Cause going by your logic. Now everyone will think their bolt on FD can take down a Z06, and thats what im trying to stop. That mentality. He didnt really beat him. You dont know what the hell happened in the race. The Z could have been ******* with the throttle to see how fast the FD was. WE DONT KNOW.

But in the end, THE OP CAN NOT BEAT THAT Z.

Hard headed people these days.

1QWIK7

iTrader: (33)

THANK YOU.

Omg, guys like us are the only hope for this site. Please make your children sign up here, to help these poor people out.

People here dont know the difference between their dick and their elbow.

Scrapiron7

I owned an FD for 6 years, and am an older member. Guess those count for something

1QWIK7

iTrader: (33)

Nice.

FD owner for 4 years now. And i swear, things havent changed from the time i signed up.

People REALLLLYY hate admitting defeat, especially when their in the FD. Or they try to switch the story around to make it seem like their car wasnt 100%.

They'll be like, "i lost to a 500hp STI, but i felt my car stutter at 6,411.030490394309rpm, it might have broken up there and lost more power".

LOL

TT_Rotary

iTrader: (3)

heh.. i highly doubt the guy beat the vette either, on a highway, no way.. the rx-7 doesnt make any torque.. a few bolt-on parts.. big deal.. the vette pulls in every gear.. even top end.. the rx-7 comes stock w/ 160 torque.. thats not enough torque to jerk off to.. thats why the rotary cant keep up w/ most cars.. its the weight of the rx-7 that does all the *** kicking.. but.. thats my opinion.. not trying to start any ****.. so...

YELLOWGSLSE

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You can't seriously be asking me this. Your arrogance is really not justified. You're just not that smart. Keep reading and you'll see (fingers crossed) what I mean.....
Even though I said no fewer than 3 times that the Z06 was the faster car??? I even put it in CAPS.Neither do you, and that's why, instead of calling BS and claiming that to be "keeping it real", I gave circumstances under which a faster car could lose a "race" to a slower car. Thus giving the OP the benefit of the doubt. AGAIN, recognizing the fact that the Z06 IS FASTER. Because, unlike you (and Bricke apparently) I realize that everything isn't always black and white. THAT'S REAL. And age has nothing to do with anything. If it did, Bricke probably would have seen my point. Some of the biggest, hard headed IDIOTS around are "older". Means nothing.
How about getting you head out of your *** long enough to realize that you are not the 7 owners "mentality police." And your mentality is certainly questionable when you ASSume that just because someone doesn't like the same thing you do (referring to the GTR thread) that is MUST be because they can't afford it. Arrogant short-sighted and stupid. Yet you are "trying to stop" the mentality that SOME 7 owners MAY have, (no one on this thread though) thinking that they can beat x_x car with x_x mods???? Please. Get over yourself. You don't have a leg to stand on.

1QWIK7

iTrader: (33)

You dont need to be smart about a thread like this. ITs fast car vs slower. You say who was "better prepared" for a run up to 120mph. Ok, so whats the point? If we raced and i stopped to tie my shoe, then what? You beat me?? Realistically yes. IF THATS what you're arguing. Cause then theres no more to say on that matter. The OP still didnt "beat" the Z. So if thats what you're arguing, again you're wasting your time.



That still means NOTHING. You didnt need to give any "circumstances". This isnt a drivers race. The Z is faster than the 7 by ALOT so theres no reason to say so and so might have happened which led the slower car to win.

I elminated ALL BS and gave him the 2 most important factors that led him to win. "He was bullshitting or the Z wasnt racing". You then went on, even siding with me that the Z was probably not even racing, talking about gearing and ****. For what? Typing all that for nothing.

I dont want to be the 7 owners "mentality police" because its not a one man job, i would need 80% of the site to help me help people take their head out of their ***. Unfortunately, 80% of the forum are the ones who need the help so there goes that.

And no, i didnt ASSume, i went straight to the facts. Z was a faster car, FD was the slower car. How can you assume the conclusion to that? lol

I already gave the factors, the equation is made, all you need to do is put it together. Yet you wanna try other solutions. Doesnt matter cause you're gonna get the same answer.

I may not have a leg to stand on but i dont think either side of your brain is EVEN ON.

YELLOWGSLSE

iTrader: (7)

The point AGAIN is if the OP started the race in 3rd at 6k like he said, that's what, 70mph or so? And the Z06 driver was at 70 mph in 5th OR 6th gear and then floored it to 120, the 7 would probably win that "race", not because he has a faster car, but because he was better prepared to go from 70 mph. Under these circumstances, the Vette driver would have still been racing, just not using his car's full potential. That's all I was saying. I ALSO said If they both started in 3rd the Vette surely would have won.
It could have been. There is when someone who WASN'T THERE calls B.S. in the name of "keeping it real".
I NEVER sided with you on this. My point has always been that he was racing, but in the wrong gear possibly. Look I have a friend with a modded 300zx twin turbo. He has about 450 rwhp and a LOAD of turbo lag. We did a pull in 3rd gear (so no one would have to shift) from about 40 to 100 and I was ahead by less than half a car the whole time. Now, we both KNOW his car is faster and would have run away from mine had we continued past 100, or if we had started in a lower gear and he was spooled up. But in THAT race, I won. Had I posted on here that an FD with just downpipe and a catback beat a 450whp 300zx on the highway, you could easily have called BS. 'Cause you know, it's always about which car is "faster".... You would have been WRONG. Because of scenarios like I the one I just gave.
But you basically said you did. Something like "this is the mentality I'm trying to stop"
Please read before responding. I said this in reference to the GTR thread a few days ago. I put this is ().......
You definitely don't.

1QWIK7

iTrader: (33)

Read what the OP has actually wrote before you get into all that gearing scenario. From the OP's story, it looked like a close race. Then started to say the Z owner was screaming giving the thumbs up basically saying it was a race and he lost.

But to prevent furthering this discussion between the both of us, ill say ok, your scenario could be right. You already heard my side which i believe is true. I mean no video, weird *** story, confused outcome.

But believe what you wanna.



Saying those 2 factors i said WAYY earlier in this thread is keeping it real, anything else and its excuses so it can be a WHAT IF story.


No, in that story, it would have been different so please stop using totally different cars with totally different "scenarios" to compare to this story.

Yeah, that doesnt make me the mentality police, thats called being one of the few without my head in my ***. If you want mentality police, call miss cleo. Even then i doubt she can help some of the poor haps on this forum.

YELLOWGSLSE

iTrader: (7)

Exactly what would be different if someone posted a kill saying they had an Fd with downpipe and catback and they walked a 450rwhp 300zx??



No, it makes you someone who WANTS to be.

1QWIK7

iTrader: (33)

O jeez, alot. Where do i start?

-You dont know exactly what the 300ZX runs
-You dont know how it was built, tuned, how its running currently in the race
-Since its an FI car, now we have to consider lag (on both parties if you want)

So yeah you cant compare it to a Z06 in this race since.

-We already know what the car runs IN STOCK FORM, im sure its still the same as it left the factory
- Car is NA, an LS7 at that. Do you even know the incredible advantage the Z has on a highway pull? Its instant response, instant lead, and since we're talking about the Z06, continuous acceleration. I provided a video in the 1st page to prove that.
-And we know its faster than his FD, right off the bat, no need to look for other sources.


I guess, ill be the tooth fairy if you want me to also.

YELLOWGSLSE

iTrader: (7)

Let me put it this way; you do KNOW that a 300zx with 450whp IS faster than an FD with just a down pipe an cat back right? This being the case, using your "logic" it should be a no brainer. It's all about which car is faster right? Hell, you could line 2 IDENTICAL FD's up, one starting in second and one starting in 3rd from 40mph. Which one will pull? Which one is faster?

matty

qwik7 i think the reason u get into these heated conversations is that you seem to habitually put down the 7. well that and other reasons. we love our cars. we recognize their short comings as well. its kind of annoying to hear it from you in every damn thread. there is no debate here. i dont think anyone believes the op...so just drop it.