turboIIrotary

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looks good i have one 10 under my strut bar and that thing makes my car sound like its going to falll apart.

Icon_One

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the Subs in the bins is a good setup i was planning on doing something like that as well.

juicyjosh

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0.5 is pretty standard for a 10", but I actually leaned closer to 0.6 for each woofer. No sound tests aside from my own personal listening honed by years of installing systems and a passion for quality accurate sound reproduction. The system is not for SPL, but SQ, although I'm sure it's over 100 dB with my conservative setup. As far as SQ, I play piano (and drums), and I want my piano to sound like I'm sitting on the bench playing it. I want trickling water to sound like it's next to my face. I want to feel the lightning in my metal guitar and drums. I want my kick drums to kick me in the back. And I want Josh Groban to make the girls cry

I will say that RF amps are my preference for power and quality reproduction. Some of them - like mine - even attenuate the highs when they receive feedback distortion so you know when the volume level is trying blow your tweeters.

To answer your question more specifically:

I listen to a very wide range of music from several different countries, although I'm not so much into reggae. So from Deep Forest (the first album was the best one) to White Zombie to Cold World Hustlers (Cold Day remix is the cut!), Hip-hop and Reggaeton and some Pop and R&B. btw Dirty Diana by Michael Jackson has a nice bass line that can be exploited with a great sound system. I'm open-minded, so I appreciate a lot of different, well-composed music.

True, a good 10 is more than enough to overpower the rest of the stock system. Once experimenting, I installed both 10s in the trunk with 300-350 RMS each, and the FRONT of my FD was rattling. You don't have to go overboard like I did, but a little Dynamat works. I believe I've fully established that with the video I posted. And as Brian pointed out earlier, yes Audiobahn is not a JL or an RF, but I got more magnet, more excursion, and more power handling for 1/3 the cost. And I haven't blown them up YET.

LiveFromNY

great stuff here.

juicyjosh

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At the time, the forum’s servers were trippin, resulting in my posts being posted and timestamped out of order.

For things to make sense, the build should be read in the following order:

Post #1 > 7 > 8 > 3 > 4 > 9

Thanks for reading

ccdominic

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so these are tens? i'm considering doing this. read else where that people were complaining about how terrible of a place it is to put your subs. i'm not a sound snob so it don't matter to me.

clcj82

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Nice job, the install ended up looking amazing! Was quite impressed with the way the custom grilles came out. I like that it's all tucked away and looks like it was part of the car design.

juicyjosh

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My three main goals were

-for the system to look stock (better yet - invisible)
-have a minimal effect on the car's handling
-produce exceptionally high sound quality

The bins are a GREAT place to put the subs.

-The subs are *close* to the listeners, so they experience maximum auditory and physical impact. Placing the subs in the bins also minimizes the sense of time delay, which I notice when subs are mounted far away from the listeners in the trunk, which sounds as though the bass is "hitting late."
-The subs are placed in a lower position than in the trunk, to maintain a low center of gravity
-The subs are in the middle of the car, so they don't affect weight distribution
-The subs are inside the FD's rigid passenger cabin, away from the trunk, so NO RATTLES
-The subs keep all trunk space available for groceries, cargo, or a girl's overnight bag
-The car looks stock

S4 Vert

Great job on your custom sub box build.

bcnr33skyline187

i was considering a stealth build in my car. but i dont think i could sacrifice box size. i like as much cone as possible

BOOSTCity 7

nice work. best way to use that bin space.

dexwtzrllygud

Looks sick!!!

lev00221

Juicyjosh,
I applaud you for a stealthy and polished installation. However, I agree with Callsign-Vega whe he says that there is "more to it than that". Subwoofer sound quality is very very dependent on enclosure construction, location, and the aiming of that enclosure properly within the car. While the bins make an aesthetically pleasing installation point they are far from the ideal location for sound quality.

ItalynStylion

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Can you explain your reasoning as to why you feel the location is improper?

It's my understanding that the pointing of a subwoofer cone doesn't really matter all that much since the reproduced frequencies are omnidirectional. This is assuming you're using the subwoofer for TRUE sub duty; 80hz and lower.

I think that the place he chose does indeed minimize pathlength discrepancies which, if no time delay was used, he'd have been unable to compensate for.

However, with regards to getting the highest SPL output (if that's what you're into) the best place would have been at the VERY back of the vehicle's hatch area. You could effectively use the rear hatch glass as a horn loading wave guide to amplify the low end. You'd probably get at least 3db or more of gain from that area. The same thing happens with your midbass. Ever notice when you lean really far forward you hear a ton more midbass? It's because it gets loaded up in the corner formed by your windshield.

abflugs900

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wow really good idea i was going to mount them upp but after seeing this i like alot more very clean

El_kenny

Nice work man. Looks real good and not even noticeable unless pointed out, which Is what I like the most