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Old 04-01-11, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RotorMotor
How much do you weigh and how are you (if you dont mind me asking) ... and do you have RZ or SR seats? Reason I ask is these seats have been around since 95 in the RZ's. Thats a good 15+ years of wear, and they all come over here quite well used unless they are the spirit R seats which are A) newer B) less miles and C) typically have less kilometers on them.
Good question... I'm sure heavier folks will definitely put more stress on the track. I'm roughly 210lbs and I'm doing great thanks for asking. My driver side seat was near mint when I bought it... have roughly 3K miles on them personally.

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Originally Posted by PandazRx-7
Good question... I'm sure heavier folks will definitely put more stress on the track. I'm roughly 210lbs and I'm doing great thanks for asking. My driver side seat was near mint when I bought it... have roughly 3K miles on them personally.

Bad phone pic...
Haha I'm doing well too. sorry for the type... it was kinda borat-esque... jegshemesh! Sorry I meant to type "how TALL are you" . Yeah the japanese passenger side (our driver side) definitely doesnt see as much wear... thats a good point. Where is the crack? Is it at one of the lower nuts or actually IN the seat? If its cracked at all I would seriously (and unfortunately) suggest no longer using it, cause in an accident it might not be safe
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Originally Posted by RotorMotor
Haha I'm doing well too. sorry for the type... it was kinda borat-esque... jegshemesh! Sorry I meant to type "how TALL are you" . Yeah the japanese passenger side (our driver side) definitely doesnt see as much wear... thats a good point. Where is the crack? Is it at one of the lower nuts or actually IN the seat? If its cracked at all I would seriously (and unfortunately) suggest no longer using it, cause in an accident it might not be safe
Haha yeah I figured it was a typo...yeah I'm about 6ft tall. Crack is at the rear left mounting point...


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Originally Posted by RotorMotor
I know these seats were used in the SP race cars though (I cant find my saved pics, but they are in the SP race car for sure).
Actually used SPAs, as these aren't homologated for race use. One prolific poster of forums worldwide has them in his SP though...probably where you've seen them.

^^^Cracked seat above should be repairable - one that was partially torn by a belt in an impact, came up surprisingly good locally.
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I think the real issue here is, why supernaut has rz seats in his spirit r replica!

just kidding...
Old 04-03-11, 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by papsmagu
i have the RZ's in my car and both are different weave pattern? does that mean that i have an RZ and a Spirit R? freind of mine noticed it last week due to this thread. i will post pics later.
The weave actually varies, even on the one seat.

The Spirit R and RZ seats share the same part number, the variations you see are just production variations.
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Originally Posted by ILoveJDM
I think the real issue here is, why supernaut has rz seats in his spirit r replica!

just kidding...
It's Phil's fault!!

Originally Posted by Gomez
The weave actually varies, even on the one seat.

The Spirit R and RZ seats share the same part number, the variations you see are just production variations.
Interesting. I wasn't aware of this.
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Originally Posted by billyboy
Actually used SPAs, as these aren't homologated for race use. One prolific poster of forums worldwide has them in his SP though...probably where you've seen them.
im not so sure about that .......



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Originally Posted by PandazRx-7
I can't tell... is the weave the same or no?

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I found some proof that the weave patterns are different...

These are a pic of my seats from rx7boutique...
http://rx7boutique.com/images/recarorz2.jpg

It's very interesting to note that the weave pattern is different on black seats. The difference must be due to years and not model.
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Originally Posted by purerx7
I have been told that the shell of rz/spirit-r seats is actually fiberglass just with a kevlar over-lay, which would be pretty sneaky since they were about 4k a pop from Mazda. It would explain the cracking mentioned above too. However I have not verified this. Better seats available for less money IMO.
Without a single doubt - they are fiberglass with a layer or two of backing.
I simply hate the hype these seats have. They're pretty cheap being a fiberglass w/ kevlar backing.

for the price these go for, used, i can't stand them. no pair of $3k+ seats should flex like these (at least my pairs) do. Sure, there is all types of "mad-jdm-tyte overnighted parts from japan" coolness for them but for any real hard driving - I honestly felt like mine would crack.

did they? doubtful, the clear on the fiberglass had hairline cracks all over the ***/bottom side.
so i guess the fatboys need to watch out huh? :-)


anyhow, to the point, these are simply kevlar-backed seats, the rest is fiberglass.

...now, when will Shine make copies? :-)
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Yea these seats are overpriced but people want them. It's insane. At this point, I think the rarity of the seats will keep the prices up for a long time.
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Close up pic...
RZ Recaro seat question-czaj8.jpg

The RZs on the left have a black Z pattern while the red seats are more uniform over a smaller area.
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I just got a set of these seats for my FD and I tried to bolt them in thinking it was just a plug-n-play style of installation and the brackets are totally different. The brackets on these seats are about 1" too short in length and about 1" too wide from aligning up with the chassis holes. Any advice? These seats have just the slide brackets, no tilt feature.
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Width











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Seat Brackets









I'm hoping I'm just retarded and couldn't figure out how to adjust the rails. But the rails don't seem like they are adjustable in any way.
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If anyone has a picture of their RZ seat rails, I would love to see the comparison....I'm truly baffled. I even had another RX7 friend come by to look at them to try and help me understand, and we basically concluded that there is simply no way for these to work.
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Lane Change, It could be the fact that it was disassembled from the seat when shipped and then reassembled after it got here. I would loosen the bolts on the seats, try to move it and then see if you could gain that inch.

Another thing I realized this time around when I was putting my Spirit Rs, if I moved the seats all they to the front to get to the rear mounting bolts, its super hard as the seats gets pushed to one side. This time I just barely moved it and everything lined up.

If that doesn't work, I have a set of RZ with tilt rails so I'll check those for you this weekend.
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Originally Posted by Herblenny
Lane Change, It could be the fact that it was disassembled from the seat when shipped and then reassembled after it got here. I would loosen the bolts on the seats, try to move it and then see if you could gain that inch.

Another thing I realized this time around when I was putting my Spirit Rs, if I moved the seats all they to the front to get to the rear mounting bolts, its super hard as the seats gets pushed to one side. This time I just barely moved it and everything lined up.

If that doesn't work, I have a set of RZ with tilt rails so I'll check those for you this weekend.
I can try and just take the rails off the seats and see if I can get the rails to fit the car w/o any seat on them. I doubt it since the rails are about 1" too short in length to reach....very strange. I hope you're right, that would be awesome. But after measuring it all out, I don't see how it could fit.
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Do these help? I have a couple others as well and these two in HI RES if you want them.
These are from RZ seats.
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Attached Thumbnails RZ Recaro seat question-recarospiritrseats044.jpg   RZ Recaro seat question-recarospiritrseats045.jpg  
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Well, obviously those rails look completely different as they should since they appear to have the tilt feature on them. Do you have a set of non tilt rails to look at? I will get my rails off the seats today and get some pictures of the rails independently as well.
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Oh.. I see..

Here is my other guess... These might be from a Miata.
I believe RS version of Miata also had these and some could easily be mistaken that these were for an FD. Both RZ and RS miata had the same Recaro seats but different rails. Now looking at the length of the rail (I was thinking just side to side), I think it could potentially for a Miata and not for an FD.
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Originally Posted by Herblenny
Oh.. I see..

Here is my other guess... These might be from a Miata.
I believe RS version of Miata also had these and some could easily be mistaken that these were for an FD. Both RZ and RS miata had the same Recaro seats but different rails. Now looking at the length of the rail (I was thinking just side to side), I think it could potentially for a Miata and not for an FD.
Hmmmm....that would suck.

Quick google search for Miata RS seats.





Those looks like my rails. Well, I think you may have solved this one.

Next question: Anyone have a set of RZ FD seat rails for sale. lol
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I'm sorry to hear they are for RS Miata. I've searched for rails in the past and tough to find without getting the seats (or too expensive). I ended up buying a crappy condition seats just to get the rails.
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Wow....don't want to have to buy another set of seats just for the rails. I'd rather just return these seats and buy different seats.
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Here are some pics of the rails in the car w/o the seats on them so you can see the alignment. The rails are too wide so the handle won't pull the cable to loosen the slider on the opposite side, and the rail holes don't line up at any location to have a starting point.

Front Seat Rail inside with the alignment pin in the hole.



Here is the rail going up/down so you can see where the proper bolt location would be for reference.




Here are the rear holes with the front alignment pin still in the proper slot.



Here is that same seat rail pitched to the side so you can see where the hole should be at in relation.



Here is the front outside hole that is the closest of the 4 with the alignment pin in place.




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