RxSeven1

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lets say you have a your car painted stock brilliant black at body shop X. A few weeks later you need a hood painted brilliant black also...will another shop's stock brilliant black match....

AustinCustoms

Probably not. Paint color varies by the can. But a really good shop would blend the new brilliant black from your new hood into the brilliant good black the other shop did, so if there is even a slight difference, it fades out over the whole car, and it's almost impossible to tell.

insomniac

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some shops might use a different brand of paint even for the same color code. so the color might be off a bit. Or later on, some paint age differently, then'll you start seeing differences in shades since they were painted by different places.

classicauto

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two things - BTW I am a body shop owner/operator

1.Black is black is black is black - dupont BASF Shwerwin Willliams Sikkens - doesn't matter black is black - if its got metallic or peral in it, its not black.
Any black by any paint company will match any black from another paint company.....when I paint any black car (a single panel repair) doesn't matter if its BMW, Chrysler, ford, mazda - whatever - I use the same can of black paint on all - I MEAN ALL - of them. again - black is black is black.

Sorry about the rant Im just tired of hearing people say, midnight black, brilliant black, nightshade black, dark mystical black - ITS FRIGGIN BLACK, GET OVER IT....

2.Any other colour - the blending theory applies to.

Rob XX 7

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classic- I think you need to look at those blacks in the sun.

Black is NOT black is black

a certain color code black should be the same no matter what brand, but to say ALL blacks are the same is just WRONG.
Blacks can have more red in them that make them look brownish in the sunlight, more blue in them and they will look more deeper black.

In the shop they may all look the same, but out in the sun they are not.

I would not want my car painted in your shop if you use all the same black on every black car. Call your rep and let him explain it to you, otherwise keep painting those cars the wrong color.

Have you not noticed the high end paint companies coming out with deeper blacks?
Do you think its all a scam ?


so to answer the question posted- the color will match if they use the same paint CODE, you may want them to use the same clear though, because some clears might reflect a little different then others and you will want the orange peel to match the rest of the car

93_fd

black is black, any black is going to start from the same can of black,i think this is what classic is meaning when he said all blacks are the same. it just depends on what you put in the black that is going to make it different shades of black. but when classic says all blacks are the same whether it be brilliant black or midnight black, that is wrong. im looking at a glasurit book right now and in 1994 mazda made brilliant black and a black so obviously they wouldnt have two different paint codes for the same color.

93ttwankel

I paint cars for a living and classic is right, any shop will paint black cars with with straight black paint unless its pearl or metallic. By straight black i mean no other toners, now all manufacturers black do have different toners usually a little white yellow, red, whatever the minute amount doesn't affect the color in the slightest now if it is tinted heavily enough to look another color its not black anymore. Tell me i'm wrong but I check all my paint jobs outside for a proper match and never have a problem painting a black car black it doesnt matter if its a honda or a chevy I use the same black sikkens auto cryl 242 .

93_fd

yea i do agree with both of you on that i was just disagreeing with him about what he said about midnight black, brilliant black, nightshade black, dark mystical black, i didnt think they were all just straight black, i thought they would have somthing else in them besides just black but correct me if im wrong.

Bodyshop

Black is one of the easiest colors to match. I don't think you'll have a problem. You almost never need to blend black into the adjacent panel. So long as the shop mixes the paint correctly to your paint code, all should be good.

Rotofire

Then it's not black now is it? Black is Black




And you know, after reading this thread....Black is funny sounding word...it even looks funny black black black black black black black black black black

toyzRus

new black is black old black isnt new black

Rob XX 7

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so then we can say all white is the same?
white is white as well?

as long as it starts with the same can of white base and no yellows or blacks are put into them? Yes if your painting it and dont care about matching the paint then you can use your black. Let me see you match the new Mercedes or Volkswagon black with your off the shelf black, it wont happen.

if shop A painted the car in the proper black for that year car, then its not a off the shelf base black, its a mixed color. If shop B decides to use its black off the shelf then it will not match shop A's paint.

Secretary at work had her volkswagon fixed from a front end collision, the front of the car looks brown compared to the rest of the car, which looks like a much deeper richer black.
I guess the shop that did her car used whatever black they wanted, probably why it doesnt match.