Ef-Dee

What do you guys think? I think so

7th Sense

Nakamichi is good...... but............. bling bling!!

KNONFS

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Very good, but not number one. I heard Mcintosh radios are the best, but I don't have any experience with them. I will have to say Eclipse its the best based on my experience!

spyfish007

Naks are very good. Their top of the line single CD player might be the best ... heck they used a $100 volume **** that is awesome. The feel of that thing ....

7th Sense

Yeah, Dude.... Mcintosh is the best.... Bling Bling Bling, but make sure you go to those authorized dealerships to buy the units, since you need to tune your system with their program..... $$$$$$$$....

Eclipse is known as Fujisu-Ten in some countires outside North America, Ef-Dee you are Chinese, I suppose you've heard of Fujisu-Ten in HK, China or Taiwan

Ef-Dee

Yup, I've heard of it...I actually have set of Eclipse speakers and tweeters in my car hehe

aaron31182

Fujisu-Ten is the company that manufactures Eclipse products, as well as Nakamichi. Nakamichi is just the higher end product line. Both are very good in my opinion.

Ef-Dee

They rock! And those who have never heard of these brand names can suck it, mwahahahaha!

BOOSTD 7

I have a Nakamichi CD-45Z. It's their best affordable head unit. Twin 24 bit Burr-Brown DAC's ... and very classy looking. Sounds super sweet. No frills clean sound.

Ef-Dee

You are one lucky man

the_glass_man

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Blah, overpriced and under featured. The amber lighting option matches the stock lighting in FC and FD's well though. The sound quality is excellent, but not twice is good for twice the money.

enuttage

Besides the part about them both being very good, the rest just isn't true to my knowledge. Nakamichi is an entirely different company.

I own an Eclipse CD5441 that's installed in my WRX. I spent many long hours listening to many decks and the Eclipse line was tip-top if you ask me. There's nothing like the clarity on those bad boys, especially 5V preout and up.

Naks are also excellent for sound quality. Unfortunately, they often times have trouble reading CD-Rs.

Clarion also makes some very fine decks - the 9675z, if I'm remembering correctly, sounds excellent.

-E

Icemark

Naks are good, but you need to look at the particular head units. They have some less expensive ones made in china that have considerably lower quality (both in sound and construction) than the Japanese made units.

My choice would be either the Japanese built Alpines or Eclipse units, as I have had considerable experience with all three.

Don't get me wrong, the Nak made by far the best cassette system, with sound almost rivaling CD, (for those that still haven't made it to the 90s) but the number of times that simple op-amps failed and it went from a 4 volt output down to a 500 Ma output was just plain annoying.

But I like decks that sound good and stay in the dash, that don't need repair, so the Alpine and Eclipse units are my choice.

spyfish007

Good thing you didn't own a previous gen Eclipse single CD player .... we nicknamed them eskips but they had a MAJOR skipping problem.

85RX7GS

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McIntosh is by far superior to all sound equipment out there. I happen to have a McIntosh Stereo here at home and it is THE BEST.

Icemark

Mc home and Mc mobile audio are two different things.



Oh yeah and Spyfish, do you remember the first gen Fujuitsu (Eclipse) changer, not the one that Sony built but that first 12 disc they built...

Whooops they forgot to put in two little bars on the cartridge mechanism and if you went around a corner at the same time you were changing discs, they all unloaded from the cart...

Everyones first gen of a product needs refinement.

Ef-Dee

Eclipses are nice-looking, but Nakamichi still has better technology

spyfish007

Yeah I've heard this too ... like you can open up the amp or deck and it says Clarion! HAHA ... this coming from a former owner of McIntosh car audio equipment ... nice but I don't think worth the price after owning them. Honestly I can't tell too much of a difference from those amps and my new JL audio amps. I think that says something about each item because the new JL amps rock, but I would never ever expect them to keep up with McIntosh.

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Oh yeah and Spyfish, do you remember the first gen Fujuitsu (Eclipse) changer, not the one that Sony built but that first 12 disc they built...

Whooops they forgot to put in two little bars on the cartridge mechanism and if you went around a corner at the same time you were changing discs, they all unloaded from the cart...

Everyones first gen of a product needs refinement.

No I don't remember this .. but I'll have to ask around and get some good stories!

On a different note I might be sending you some PMs to help me install my alarm on my new car -correctly.

enuttage

Yep. But alot of it is redundant. 24-bit D/A converters are a great technology, but most music isn't even *encoded* at 24-bits, but 16. Some CDs are recorded at 24-bits though and more and more are moving that way. It may be more relevant soon, but not quite yet. So basically Nakamichi, Clarion, Alpine...all the guys using 24-bit DACs are ahead of the curve and using it as marketing hype (to a degree)

This is all changing rather rapidly, and CD technology is getter closer and closer to replicating the sound quality of analog recordings (which are by far superior up until now).

Ultimately, it's all in the ears anyway, and Eclipse and Nak both sound great to me. I could just afford more Eclipse for the price believe it or not.

-E

BOOSTD 7

Yea, my first Nak 45Z skipped horribly and wouldn't play CD-R's. So I took it back to the shop where I bought it and they swapped it out for a replacement. Since then I've had 0 problems. It'll play any CD-R I throw at it, and never skips .. even in an RX-7

And Clarion does make some nice stuff too. The 9675 is a killer deck. Their new DXZ925 is awesome too! It's got me seriously thinking about dumping the Nak ... it might not sound quite as good, but it has a TON more features for about the same price. Although I do love how well the Nak matches my interior. Tough choice ...