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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 11:41 PM
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How would you wire the FD tail light to do this?

Looking at this photo of a forum members sig I thought it would be kick *** to have all lights on at the same time...Maybe the turn sigs just a little fainter and then it flashes when turning...Any ideas?

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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 01:12 AM
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You could do it, but it would be illegal. My buddy had his Supra wired like that and he used to get hassled all of the time. You can't have constant yellow showing to the rear.


Just get a dual filament yellow bulb and find a supporting socket off a junked car or something.


*edit* of course the law might be different where you are at, but I doubt it.

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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 01:17 AM
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it all depends on how its set up. if its sigan digital electronics then you need to get the diagrams and then figer out what ic's you need and ,or ,nor ,nand gate s. unless its anolog set up. i think he just had the flashers on and took the pic. if you get the wire diagrams tho we should be able to help you out.
i can see if you used "or gates" or some nands wired as or's and when you have the 11 you got a highso ligth stays on but then when you hit the lever down you can send in a clocked input of 1010101010101010101010 at like 1hz or something like that not goin to work it out now but. then thats how you would get your signal left or right. then when you hit the hazards you will have to send the clock signal to both ligths. that all i can think of rigth now find out if the system is digital or analog electronics first.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by bigmack000
it all depends on how its set up. if its sigan digital electronics then you need to get the diagrams and then figer out what ic's you need and ,or ,nor ,nand gate s. unless its anolog set up. i think he just had the flashers on and took the pic. if you get the wire diagrams tho we should be able to help you out.
i can see if you used "or gates" or some nands wired as or's and when you have the 11 you got a highso ligth stays on but then when you hit the lever down you can send in a clocked input of 1010101010101010101010 at like 1hz or something like that not goin to work it out now but. then thats how you would get your signal. then when you hit the hazards you will have to send the clock signal to both ligths. that all i can think of rigth now find out if the system is digital or analog electronics first.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 01:27 AM
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My head hurts.
lol welcoem to the past months of my life since i started school in sept lol. damn electronics theroy.i just cracked and dropped some of my class's to stay sane .
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 01:40 AM
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nm. i cnat read.

:p

actually, is there something you can do where only one circle per side comes on when brakes are applied?

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Originally posted by bigmack000
lol welcoem to the past months of my life since i started school in sept lol. damn electronics theroy.i just cracked and dropped some of my class's to stay sane .
I was talking about your grammar and spelling. It is absolutely the worst I have ever seen. I know you get a hard time for it, but that post was unusually bad. Most of the time I can translate it but tonight I couldn't.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 01:57 AM
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Originally posted by Fumanchu
I was talking about your grammar and spelling. It is absolutely the worst I have ever seen. I know you get a hard time for it, but that post was unusually bad. Most of the time I can translate it but tonight I couldn't.
ok hows this 3rd time i looked it over now! i really blow at spelling and grammer i try my best tho.

it all depends on how the elctical system is set up on our cars. if the turn signals are digital electronics then you need to get the diagrams and then figer out what ic's you need "and ,or ,nor ,nand gates". but it may be a anolog system then thats just a matter of hooking wires up diff.

inthe pic i think he just had the flashers on and took the pic.

i can see if you used "or gates" or some nands wired as or's and when you have the in puts as 11 you get a high so ligth stays on but then when you hit the lever down you can send in a clocked input of 1010101010101010101010 at like 1hz or something like that just a pulse slow enuff for us to see . you now have your signal left or right. now when you need the hazards you will have to send the clock signal to both ligths. thats all i can think of rigth now find out if the system is digital or analog electronics first.
joel

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Originally posted by Fumanchu
You could do it, but it would be illegal. My buddy had his Supra wired like that and he used to get hassled all of the time. You can't have constant yellow showing to the rear.........
I got hassled by it when I was in my rental in Germany, too.

Cop told me "Please turn off your rear fog light"
I was like "Ohhhhh!"

In snowy, rainy, or foggy conditions, having that rear orange light constantly on is a great safety feature.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 07:12 AM
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Well, it would look kinda strange to have two red and one orange. But if it could glow red as the other two do and then flash yellow when turning that would be ideal. Probably would have to plumb another bulb into the housing and splice wires off the existing brake ligit. Something like that. Not sure really.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by bigmack000
ok hows this 3rd time i looked it over now! i really blow at spelling and grammer i try my best tho.

it all depends on how the elctical system is set up on our cars. if the turn signals are digital electronics then you need to get the diagrams and then figer out what ic's you need "and ,or ,nor ,nand gates". but it may be a anolog system then thats just a matter of hooking wires up diff.

inthe pic i think he just had the flashers on and took the pic.

i can see if you used "or gates" or some nands wired as or's and when you have the in puts as 11 you get a high so ligth stays on but then when you hit the lever down you can send in a clocked input of 1010101010101010101010 at like 1hz or something like that just a pulse slow enuff for us to see . you now have your signal left or right. now when you need the hazards you will have to send the clock signal to both ligths. thats all i can think of rigth now find out if the system is digital or analog electronics first.
joel
If this post was in the lounge I would let it go. Apneablue was asking a serious question and deserves an answer from someone who knows.

Your answer is complete bullshit, it doesn't make any sense what so ever. I don't know why you are doing this but please stop.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by montego
If this post was in the lounge I would let it go. Apneablue was asking a serious question and deserves an answer from someone who knows.

Your answer is complete bullshit, it doesn't make any sense what so ever. I don't know why you are doing this but please stop.
And you know the sad thing about it? I think he's serious
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by bigmack000
ok hows this 3rd time i looked it over now! i really blow at spelling and grammer i try my best tho.

it all depends on how the elctical system is set up on our cars. if the turn signals are digital electronics then you need to get the diagrams and then figer out what ic's you need "and ,or ,nor ,nand gates". but it may be a anolog system then thats just a matter of hooking wires up diff.

inthe pic i think he just had the flashers on and took the pic.

i can see if you used "or gates" or some nands wired as or's and when you have the in puts as 11 you get a high so ligth stays on but then when you hit the lever down you can send in a clocked input of 1010101010101010101010 at like 1hz or something like that just a pulse slow enuff for us to see . you now have your signal left or right. now when you need the hazards you will have to send the clock signal to both ligths. thats all i can think of rigth now find out if the system is digital or analog electronics first.
joel
u can do that ^ ^ ^ but then looking at the schematics and splicing wires would be easier. don't worry dude, i had to go through that same theory. i'm still recovering.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 11:19 AM
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u can do that ^ ^ ^ but then looking at the schematics and splicing wires would be easier. don't worry dude, i had to go through that same theory. i'm still recovering.
I know your just being nice but don't encourage him. There's a lot of misinformation going around in the forum already.




apneablue: If you think about it, having the turn signal on all of the time is only illegal because it's yellow. Many cars do not have a yellow blinker, the taillight just flashes (my 85 nissan for one).

Instead of putting two bulbs in there just make the one that is already on there red. I don't know for sure but I think it's the housing that is orange not the bulb (I've never taken apart my taillights). I'm sure that there is way that you can reverse the function of the blinker (but I've never done it so the research is up to you).

One thing that I can help you with is to direct you to the factory manual so you can track down which wire/switch to modify.

Look under 3rd gen shop manual:
http://www.iluvmyrx7.com/

BTW- after your done, provide us with a full write up. So the rest of us lazy asses who don't like to do their own research can mooch of your hard work.

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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by montego
I know your just being nice but don't encourage him. There's a lot of misinformation going around in the forum already.




apneablue: If you think about it, having the turn signal on all of the time is only illegal because it's yellow. Many cars do not have a yellow blinker, the taillight just flashes (my 85 nissan for one).

Instead of putting two bulbs in there just make the one that is already on there red. I don't know for sure but I think it's the housing that is orange not the bulb (I've never taken apart my taillights). I'm sure that there is way that you can reverse the function of the blinker (but I've never done it so the research is up to you).

One thing that I can help you with is to direct you to the factory manual so you can track down which wire/switch to modify.

Look under 3rd gen shop manual:
http://www.iluvmyrx7.com/

BTW- after your done, provide us with a full write up. So the rest of us lazy asses who don't like to do their own research can mooch of your hard work.

yeah **** you. i know what the hell iam talking about it just i cant' really put in in to the rigth words! i was in ******* avionics all we did from 8-5pm ever got damn day was elcetronic's threory. we worked on diagrams for plane's and had labs were we had to make shti like this work. so dont tell me i dont know what iam talking about! sorry if becaus of my schooling i think more complicated now. rotor_convert has been through the same **** probly not avionics but samt kinda class's.

if yo uthink my post was complete bull **** tell me why. when your at it tell me how much elcetronics trainning you have maybe you think what iam saying is complete bull ****, becaue you dont know what the **** iam talking about becasue you never LEARNED IT!
i know there are easier ways but at the time i never thougth of them. so go eat a dick montego iam not puttign up with your **** or anyone eles! so prove me wrong and tell me why it wont work
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What I want to know, is how do you go through school typing like that? Not trying to flame, just very curious. Grammar/Spelling check on Word won't even work with your typing.


People would take your posts a lot more serious if it didn't look like a 5 year old typed it. I for one almost always skip over your posts because it hurts my eyes so bad trying to translate it. Just a thought.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 12:53 PM
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Before this turns into a "**** Slinging" thread please I would still like to get ideas pertaining to the question at hand...I am willing to try this but want to know if anyone has any good ideas on how to approach it....For you guys who want to curse each other out I have created your very own THREAD to do so...
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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it does work but i don't have word i on this comp.

i am just a shitty typper. if you look every mistake they are constant. spelling and grammar though that because i got sever lead poisoning when i was a kid and still have a learning disability with english. can't spell worth **** and my grammar when i write, well i must seem like a cave man. so yeah i do my best. i know sometimes i can't make sense, but i am accustomed to people ignoring me. i do what i can with the tools at hand. but i guess my best is good enough for this forum. people don't know i have had learning disabilities with english related stuff. so they either flame or make fun of me. so i give up
some one eles help apneablue with his stuff


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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 01:02 PM
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I am not sure exactly what you want. Do you want to get rid of the yellow signal/light all the way now? Or do you still want the signal to flash yellow but light up red at night?? The latter would be very hard to do since the lens on the light would have to be a clear color or smoked. But since there is a yellow lens in there, it would take a lot more work.


If you want just the light to be a constant red and blink red with the turn signals, a dual filament bulb can be used. It would be very easy to wire up. Then all you would have to do is find a way to get rid of the yellow lens in favor for a red or clear one.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 01:16 PM
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Well, sorry if I am confusing you.

Here's my vision...

all three lights light up redand act as brake lights but the very outside one flashes when turning...

I know there is a law about constantly illuminated yellow lights but is there a law about...........that's right...damn....I just remember that the cover over the turnsignal is yellow. ****.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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That would be the only problem with what you want. I have never taken apart the lights either but I think it's just a removable yellow lens in there. Maybe you can fab up a red one of some kind or remove it all together and get a red bulb. Then remove all the other red ones and put red bulbs in there too. It would look wierd to have the other with red inside lenses and have the outside clear.


The wiring with the dual filament bulb would take like 5 min. Thats the easy part now
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by Fumanchu
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If you want just the light to be a constant red and blink red with the turn signals, a dual filament bulb can be used. It would be very easy to wire up. Then all you would have to do is find a way to get rid of the yellow lens in favor for a red or clear one.
Yes, that would be what I'm trying to figure out. Only thing is the yellow cover...If youhave a red bulb behind the yellow lens would still look yellow you think?
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Originally posted by bigmack000
it does work but i don't have word i on this comp.

i am just a shitty typper. if you look every mistake they are constant. spelling and grammar though that because i got sever lead poisoning when i was a kid and still have a learning disability with english. can't spell worth **** and my grammar when i write, well i must seem like a cave man. so yeah i do my best. i know sometimes i can't make sense, but i am accustomed to people ignoring me. i do what i can with the tools at hand. but i guess my best is good enough for this forum. people don't know i have had learning disabilities with english related stuff. so they either flame or make fun of me. so i give up
some one eles help apneablue with his stuff


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With that said. I'm not going to flame nor anything but I will give you this.
Originally posted by bigmack000

when your at it tell me how much elcetronics trainning you have maybe you think what iam saying is complete bull ****, becaue you dont know what the **** iam talking about becasue you never LEARNED IT!
Bachelor’s degree in electrical engineering, have been working in the field for 6 + years. I have designed, tested, and developed communication equipment in addition to building, testing and trouble shooting robotic workcells. I have been exposed to the following fields: RF, digital hardware, and DSP.

Out of respect to apneablue I will not continue this.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by montego
With that said. I'm not going to flame nor anything but I will give you this.


Bachelor’s degree in electrical engineering, have been working in the field for 6 + years. I have designed, tested, and developed communication equipment in addition to building, testing and trouble shooting robotic workcells. I have been exposed to the following fields: RF, digital hardware, and DSP.

Out of respect to apneablue I will not continue this.
So one of you smart ***** should be able to figure this **** out then....I'm so happy we have smart people in here!
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Calm it down, Joel has bad typing... so what? Im already sending him mavis beacon for his birthday. I find you guys poking fun at his intelligence or typing skills and saying he types like a 5 year old to be completely disrespectfull. Lets take this into consideration and instead of fighting over differing opinions, just post what you think without belittling the other guy's opinion. With that said.... Im going to go make some food, take a ****.. and sit on my ***.

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