HID Bi-Xenon Retro-fit in 3rd gen
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11-27-06, 02:21 PM
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I'm very impressed with all the work that was done to accomodate some of those projector headlights. It's all very impressive.
However, I'm surprised you went through all that trouble... I mean, you told us you had HID's in the stock housings. This wasn't enough? I mean, did you not see better at night?
I've done the direct comparison between projectors and reflector style housings. To be honest, I prefer the reflector style housings. They bounce light more effectively than those projector style housings.
Everyone wants the cutoff with the projectors, but it's probably one of the worst things that you could ask for.
I don't know, maybe it's just my eyes, but I definately prefer the stock housings in the FD with HID bulbs in them.
I get alot better lighting and I don't have that dreaded cutoff everyone seems to want with projectors.
Regardless, nice work with the retrofit.
lates,
However, I'm surprised you went through all that trouble... I mean, you told us you had HID's in the stock housings. This wasn't enough? I mean, did you not see better at night?
I've done the direct comparison between projectors and reflector style housings. To be honest, I prefer the reflector style housings. They bounce light more effectively than those projector style housings.
Everyone wants the cutoff with the projectors, but it's probably one of the worst things that you could ask for.
I don't know, maybe it's just my eyes, but I definately prefer the stock housings in the FD with HID bulbs in them.
I get alot better lighting and I don't have that dreaded cutoff everyone seems to want with projectors.
Regardless, nice work with the retrofit.
lates,
11-28-06, 01:12 AM
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The whole point is to improve the FD's lighting but without blinding all the incoming drivers which happens if you follow the easy way(stock housings + hid bulbs).
You might wanna check these links:
http://faqlight.carpassion.info/headlamp-faq.htm
http://faqlight.carpassion.info/hl-aiming.htm
http://faqlight.carpassion.info/projector-unit.htm
http://faqlight.carpassion.info/hl-c...egulations.htm
You might wanna check these links:
http://faqlight.carpassion.info/headlamp-faq.htm
http://faqlight.carpassion.info/hl-aiming.htm
http://faqlight.carpassion.info/projector-unit.htm
http://faqlight.carpassion.info/hl-c...egulations.htm
11-28-06, 02:26 PM
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EFS.O,
Yes, this goes without saying. You don't want to blind oncoming traffic. This doesn't happen with our cars though.
Since the upgrade to HID's I can actually see alot better right in front and alot further down. My headlights are aimed properly. I have yet to get a car flash me his/her headlights so I know the aim is setup properly. Just to make sure I lined up in front of a white wall and made sure the lights weren't too high.
I find the Projector style lights very annoying! You get all this intense light right in front of you and then you can't see any road signs because not enough light is "reflecting" off the lense. You can't make out a sign until you're practically 50ft away from it.
Even worse if you have a projecto style housing without HID bulbs! In my Mazda3 I have to drive around as much as I can with the high beams. Even aiming the stupid projectors high doesn't help much.
I wished the manufactures went back to reflector style housings. I see alot of new cars with the bloody projectors.
Lates,
Yes, this goes without saying. You don't want to blind oncoming traffic. This doesn't happen with our cars though.
Since the upgrade to HID's I can actually see alot better right in front and alot further down. My headlights are aimed properly. I have yet to get a car flash me his/her headlights so I know the aim is setup properly. Just to make sure I lined up in front of a white wall and made sure the lights weren't too high.
I find the Projector style lights very annoying! You get all this intense light right in front of you and then you can't see any road signs because not enough light is "reflecting" off the lense. You can't make out a sign until you're practically 50ft away from it.
Even worse if you have a projecto style housing without HID bulbs! In my Mazda3 I have to drive around as much as I can with the high beams. Even aiming the stupid projectors high doesn't help much.
I wished the manufactures went back to reflector style housings. I see alot of new cars with the bloody projectors.
Lates,
11-28-06, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Neo
EFS.O,
Yes, this goes without saying. You don't want to blind oncoming traffic. This doesn't happen with our cars though.
Since the upgrade to HID's I can actually see alot better right in front and alot further down. My headlights are aimed properly. I have yet to get a car flash me his/her headlights so I know the aim is setup properly. Just to make sure I lined up in front of a white wall and made sure the lights weren't too high.
I find the Projector style lights very annoying! You get all this intense light right in front of you and then you can't see any road signs because not enough light is "reflecting" off the lense. You can't make out a sign until you're practically 50ft away from it.
Even worse if you have a projecto style housing without HID bulbs! In my Mazda3 I have to drive around as much as I can with the high beams. Even aiming the stupid projectors high doesn't help much.
I wished the manufactures went back to reflector style housings. I see alot of new cars with the bloody projectors.
Lates,
Yes, this goes without saying. You don't want to blind oncoming traffic. This doesn't happen with our cars though.
Since the upgrade to HID's I can actually see alot better right in front and alot further down. My headlights are aimed properly. I have yet to get a car flash me his/her headlights so I know the aim is setup properly. Just to make sure I lined up in front of a white wall and made sure the lights weren't too high.
I find the Projector style lights very annoying! You get all this intense light right in front of you and then you can't see any road signs because not enough light is "reflecting" off the lense. You can't make out a sign until you're practically 50ft away from it.
Even worse if you have a projecto style housing without HID bulbs! In my Mazda3 I have to drive around as much as I can with the high beams. Even aiming the stupid projectors high doesn't help much.
I wished the manufactures went back to reflector style housings. I see alot of new cars with the bloody projectors.
Lates,
11-28-06, 07:10 PM
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I took a look at your CATZ HID thread. It looks alot like my setup.
I got my kit from XenonDepot. 4300K Philips system. I wanted OEM quality and found it in that kit.
Absolutely phenominal! Highly recommended.
I got my kit from XenonDepot. 4300K Philips system. I wanted OEM quality and found it in that kit.
Absolutely phenominal! Highly recommended.
12-01-06, 01:09 PM
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I saw a chinese kit on Ebay for $200 (no longer listed) Catz is $600 and Belloff is $1200. I thought of buying used projector HIDs but not enlosed in the OEM glass but trying to make a non pop up kit. Are any of these kits SAE street legal?
12-01-06, 01:35 PM
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From what I was told, HIDs that aren't factory installed are illegal in the US. That is why Catz went out of business a few years ago. Hearsay, but that's what I was told by a Catz distributor I'm friends with.
12-01-06, 02:23 PM
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Oh, myabe that's why it's not on ebay anymore. I thought it was cheap chinese junk that didn't last and they took the money and ran "lol". I didn't know Catz went out of business as I found a site that still sells them. Belloff is pretty expensive and if I remember correctly the one or two people that got it when it came out werent happy with them. I found another dual beam zenon solution but if projectors are a narrow beam then they may only be good for high beams.
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What do you guys think of the sale going on in the thread labeled CHRISTMAS SALE ---Visionbulbs & Prolumen HID CONVERSION... Its under group buys. I might purchase these becuase I personally dont like the look of the single projector. If I were to do that I would go with a JDM non-pop up kit.
02-13-08, 07:24 AM
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Looks like you can now buy a HID kit for this:
http://www.xtralights.com/index.asp?...S&Category=190
I'm still waiting on a sleepy eye HID setup
http://www.xtralights.com/index.asp?...S&Category=190
I'm still waiting on a sleepy eye HID setup
02-13-08, 07:32 AM
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Yep, but you can buy a HID option (I think):
http://www.xtralights.com/index.asp?...OD&ProdID=2035
Or use these kits:
http://www.xtralights.com/index.asp?...it+pair&Page=1
http://www.xtralights.com/index.asp?...OD&ProdID=2035
Or use these kits:
http://www.xtralights.com/index.asp?...it+pair&Page=1
07-12-08, 10:23 PM
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Looks like those headlights David posted could save alot of the fitment and labor involved in making a set like the original poster did. What size are those projectors? Maybe I could just retrofit a decent Hella HID projector and do the apropiate electronics part.
08-18-09, 05:56 PM
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they dont 
https://www.rx7club.com/potential-advertisers-223/god-said-let-there-light-854663/
hid "plug in h4" kits actually make your vision worse as there are some really bright spots, some really dark spots, and really poor throw (distance of the light disbursement). So basically, as your eye adjusts to the super bright spots your iris closes, and you end up having worse overall night vision even though your lights are brighter (though you can see the two spots directly in front of your car really well)
. So really the projector retrofit is the only way to go if you want to see better. If you dont care about seeing, and just want bright blue lights, by all means... get the plug in kits 
https://www.rx7club.com/potential-advertisers-223/god-said-let-there-light-854663/hid "plug in h4" kits actually make your vision worse as there are some really bright spots, some really dark spots, and really poor throw (distance of the light disbursement). So basically, as your eye adjusts to the super bright spots your iris closes, and you end up having worse overall night vision even though your lights are brighter (though you can see the two spots directly in front of your car really well)
. So really the projector retrofit is the only way to go if you want to see better. If you dont care about seeing, and just want bright blue lights, by all means... get the plug in kits
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