Ok so has anyone bought this kit?
I just read about it in moddified magazine.It looks pretty similar if not an exact replica of the c west body kit except its carbon fiber.Which I would think is stronger and lighter than the fiberglass counterparts.If im wrong on this please let me know.Also the kit is roughly the same price as the regular c west replica kit that rotary extreme sells.That and carbon creations also makes carbon fiber fenders.Sweet.
Heres some prices
front bumper 599
rear bumper 599
side skirts I think are 575
fenders are 699
pretty damn sweet for the prices.
My only other question would be this one.I like the strength and lightness of carbon fiber but im not really big on the whole mesh look of carbon fiber.Can carbon fiber pieces be painted over with say the factory paint?
Which in my case would be brilliant black.If this is possible im definatly going to buy this kit.Whats not to like about it.

 

carbon fiber can be painted, but i would just go with fiberglass and save the expense, the difference will be minimal except for the cf look IMO

 

Has anyone bought the Carbon Creations bodykit? Don't know.

http://www.carbon-creations.com/shop...pe=Body%20Kits

It is an exact replica of the C-West body kit.
Is it stronger than the C-West body kit? Maybe/maybe not. I've never seen the kit in person, so I can't tell you.

Can carbon fiber be painted? Yes.

 

thank you for the information.Im glad to know that it can be painted over.I was afraid that perhaps it couldnt.
What im really interested in is the fact that it will be slightly lighter than fiberglass and a hell of a lot stronger.Especially if i were to ever hit a slight dip and scrape the front bumper.I dont think it would really do too much to the carbon fiber bumper but im pretty sure the fiberglass would crack.

 

thanx for the info as well domfd.

 

my friends wrx has gone through three cf lips cause they split as soon as they hit something...

one time was a boot in the road
one time was hitting bridge ramp (the car is slammed)

If your worried about cracking get urathane

 

ohh hey I did notice one slight difference.The c west front bumper has a small vent near the front tire well while the carbon creations one doesnt.If you look closely you will se what im talkng about.

 

just a comment on the carbon fiber body parts...

idea's great, they're lightweight, strong, etc. but you hit a CF panel hard enough, it doesn't dent or break...it shatters into a million peices. you no longer have that panel. it's gotta be replaced.

fiberglass, while more fragile, can at least be repaired....

granted, i'm not sure which one is cheaper...repair fiberglass then paint over the damage (or in many cases repaint the entire panel), or buy a new panel and paint it...but it's def somethin you wanna take into consideration

 

youre shitting me.I thought carbon fiber was supposed to be 10 times stronger than stell and all that crap.

Well I also dont intend on dropping the car from its stock height so that may help.
That and I dont think c west makes a urethane kit and if they did im sure it would be a real bitch to get a hold of and probably seriously expensive.

 

The general rule that I heard is that a body kit must be modified by "x"% (I don't remember the exact number) in order for the company to not be slapped w/ a potential lawsuit.

I don't know whether this is true or not, but this is what I heard.

Either way, the general kit is derived from the C-West body kit.

 

point well taken.But how hard would you have to hit that puppy? Im talking about maybe a 5 mph scrape or something like that.Where it wouldnt be a hard hit or anything.In my town we dont really have a lot of speed bumps.We have speed dips.Which are annoying as ****.
So thats why I thought maybe the carbon fiber stuff can last a lot longer than the fiberglass stuff.

 

If you want the best of both worlds, I'd get VIS Racing's polyfiber kit. It's not prone to sagging and practically melting after sitting in the sun for a long time (and being heavy) like urethane, and it's not as fragile as fiberglass. It's basically woven fiberglass typa material...it actually bends and twists like urethane, but since it's made of fiberglass, it's real light and can still be repaired...

Its special order, so it'll take a cpl weeks, but it's incredible. And im talkin from experience...i have it on my FD =)

 

got a link to the vis kit or pictures of the kit on your car?

 

Just because carbon fiber may be stronger than fiberglass, doesn't mean that it is invincible.

Some times, "stiffness" isn't what you want. Rather, flexibility can be a big plus.

For example, IF your bumper is an "invincible" bumper...assuming that you hit a dip...what will break? The screws/clips maybe?

This is a reason why some people choose urethane as opposed to fiberglass. The forgiving nature of the material is a big plus for those that have to deal w/ speed bumps, dips, low curbs, etc.

It is hard to say "how hard of an impact" the bumper will take w/o at least looking at the product.

 

this is the link to the kit itself... it's called the "tracer" kit

http://www.visracing.com/catalog/ind..._65_419_74_627

it's an EXACT replica of c west
but that will get you the regular fiberglass one.

like i said, the polyfiber is special order, so id call them and find out
626-573-8383

unfortunatley I cant find the polyfiber stuff on their website anymore (they changed it recently)... but they used to have pics and video of a sideskirt being twisted and bent... and another of a car backing up into a wall and the bumper just flexing...

u cant see anything different asthetically by looking at the bumper, but when you touch and feel it, there's a world of difference. it's no where near as stiff as fiberglass.

as for pics of it on my car, patience. my car's almost FINALLY done. i plan on postin pics asap =)

 

kick ***.how much did the kit cost you?
for some reason they dont have their prices posted.

Right now im in a debate over which kit would be good for my current application.Carbon fiber is light strong but not flexible.Vis racings is flexible,strong like urethane but not as heavy as either urethane and fiberglass.
Heres another question.How low does the c west front bumper hang.And do you generally tend to scrape it on low dip and such other commonplace obstacles to our low riding cars.

 

Looks pretty good after being painted and the price $1750 for the whole kit is cheaper than the original fiberglass made C-West.

 

My price would be very misleading, since I had an *understanding* w/ VIS, so i got a special price... but it's not very expensive. I *believe* its actually cheaper than the regular c west fiberglass.

Here's MHO...i would never get the CF, since it would DEF. break w/ me. Before the kit, my front lip always scraped on dips/bumps...and i had a gynmastics-like situation goin over speedbumps and potholes...so id imagine the c west bumper would be even more difficult, since it's not rubber like the stock lip. point being, if you want somethin that'll last, you want the polyfiber. lightweight, flexible, and fixable. fiberglass bumpers simply crack. the polyfiber will take the hit, bend, and then bend back

 

point well taken.sounds like the vis kit is the cheapest and best option.
One other thing.How was the fitment of the kit.Was it good or did you have to have a shop work on it for hours just to get it to somewhat fit?

 

i didnt fit the kit myself...i had a shop work on it...but the job was a lot cheaper BECAUSE it's polyfiber.

not sure if you know, normally urethane kits are less expensive to put on than fiberglass, because since urethan can bend, it's soo much easier to fit properly

so to answer ur question, fitment was excellent. very minor adjustments (that'll depend on your car in particular). that's prob the best part of all..it's flexibility makes fitment a snap =)

 

woo hoo.
the vis kit is looking better and better.

 

now u know why i went w/ it

BTW...good luck finding someone else to give you feedback on it, cuz I'm the only one who has it

 

i hope you post some pics of your car when you finish it.

 

oh i definetly will...ive been waitin...forEVER lol. she's been in the shop for a while now =(

it was supposed to be finished on saturday, but im mr i-want-it-perfect haha...so just a cpl more days...

 

cant rush perfection.im the same way.
thanx for the help man.