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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 02:14 PM
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can you paint using?

is there anyway you could paint a car with an hvlp gun using an air tank like an 11 gallon
for example this one
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=65595
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 02:29 PM
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just take it to maaco
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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just take it to maaco
NOOOO!!! unless its a FB or FC!, :p j/k but seriously...

30 gallon is the absolute smallest and even then you are pushing it. Some can do it, BUT paint doesnt like sitting around for your compressor to catch up before you can lay the next pass. The only reason i can normally get away with it is because i dont spray an entire car at once, its a quarter here, a hood there, two doors, ETC. First and only time it did affect me was when i sprayed my friend ford F350! That was a HUUGGGEEEE BITCH! hahaha

LOL just saw what brand air tank you suggested, i wont even use that companies gun for primer!! Check out the sharpe HVLP guns, you can get em for 150-200ish. Its what i started out with it, now i have a satajet digital 2000 for both primer and color/clear. yes, two different $600 guns Youll also want an air/oil dryer of some sort to filter your air coming from the compressor and a dedicated "clean" air line for spraying only.

IS this thread a joke BTW? lmfao
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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no i had never thought about it and didn't know if that would supply enough pressure for an hvlp or even just a conventional

im not taking it to maaco because i can do the same job at home for less money and better results, ive been doing body work for a while and i just want to have a little project to do at home rather than doing it at school and having everybody mess it up
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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nd about the satajet suggestion, sorry but i'd pass on that
those don't do much better than the ones from walmart depending on models that is

my favorite guns the iwata 400 =] straight sexxxx =]
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dbssr1212
nd about the satajet suggestion, sorry but i'd pass on that
those don't do much better than the ones from walmart depending on models that is

my favorite guns the iwata 400 =] straight sexxxx =]
Sooo you're a bodywork and paint expert, but want to know if you can paint your car with an 11 gallon air tank, with no compressor? and all while bashing SATA...

First off 11 gallons = ~1.5 cubic feet at 90-150psi. Most guns require around 10CFM @~40psi. Without going into a bunch of mass flow rate calculations, you have maybe a minute of air.
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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You need at least an 80gal tank air compressor if you want to paint a car...
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dbssr1212
no i had never thought about it and didn't know if that would supply enough pressure for an hvlp or even just a conventional

im not taking it to maaco because i can do the same job at home for less money and better results, ive been doing body work for a while and i just want to have a little project to do at home rather than doing it at school and having everybody mess it up
For some REEAASSSONNN i dont believe this, cuz if you did have this knowledge, this thread would not exist...

here is what i paint with my sata



yup a BUGATI model.

Prolly wouldnt take advice from probably theee only guy on this board that has sprayed a bugati of any sort...

JUST SAYIN....
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by YaNi
Sooo you're a bodywork and paint expert, but want to know if you can paint your car with an 11 gallon air tank, with no compressor? and all while bashing SATA...

First off 11 gallons = ~1.5 cubic feet at 90-150psi. Most guns require around 10CFM @~40psi. Without going into a bunch of mass flow rate calculations, you have maybe a minute of air.
x2!!! hahaha

I dunt no much bout cumputerz....
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 12:01 AM
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... this thread is epic fail through and through...
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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sata not much better than walmart guns? i spray with iwata primer and base/clear gun and i would take sata over them any day. i have a 90 gallon in my garage and thats enough so i can lay down a coat on the whole car with out the compessor running and stirring up dust. anyway to answer the question a 11 gallon air tank would be great for your car models.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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actually no i don't know about compressors seeing how the shop i do my work at already has a compressor and i don't favor sata jets because they seem to clog up too easily
the iwata 400 has never given me that problem
i've used three or four different satas and they all gave me that problem
the guns are used everyday and the iwata has lasted the longest without giving us anyproblems
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 04:48 AM
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I've done it with a tank that small before. It's not the best, but will get the job done. Just make sure you have some kind of water catch. And drain the tank often.
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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haha you need at least a 60 gallon tank like mine



got the job done and never had to stop, even after continuous sanding it kept up. $400 at lowes.
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Well that sucks a fat one, I got a good deal on a new 21gallon that flows only 7SCFM @ 40PSI I planned on doing sections at a time though. I planned on breaking it into groups. Bumpers, fenders, sunroof and mirrors, hatch, hood then body or reverse of that. This thread makes me weary.
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Well that sucks a fat one, I got a good deal on a new 21gallon that flows only 7SCFM @ 40PSI I planned on doing sections at a time though. I planned on breaking it into groups. Bumpers, fenders, sunroof and mirrors, hatch, hood then body or reverse of that. This thread makes me weary.
You want tips??

Do one panel at a time and be patient with that 20gal.

I spray XXX black a lot, black is a MFer, make sure you spray dust free and youre air line is oil/moisture free as well!!!

If its a lighter color... (tee hee)
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Magic
You want tips??

Do one panel at a time and be patient with that 20gal.

I spray XXX black a lot, black is a MFer, make sure you spray dust free and youre air line is oil/moisture free as well!!!

If its a lighter color... (tee hee)
+1 rent a booth if you can afford it! i tried to build my own booth on my drive way but i still got dust in there some how and now its in my paint





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