satoacs

i am looking at getting Audiobahn ADB AS62Q woofers and Pioneer TS-T15 tweeters, if i were to wire 4 of the woofers and 2 of the tweeters to one amp, how much power should the amp have? or does anyone have a recommendation for an amp that i should get?

SpeedKing

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You again w/ these inane questions!

Why woofers from Audiobahn and tweeters from Pioneer? Lots of companies make matched component sets. And you wire these through crossovers to split the high and low frequencies, NOT directly to the amp.

rotoboy661

haha damn this guy

dude like wut speed said just get matching components

mike

satoacs

its not an insane question. the reson why someone would mismatch them is because they like it that way. its perfectly reasonable. ill go with matching components then.
if i go with speakers from the same company, would it be better if i got an amp from that company to poer those speakers, or would it be ok if i got an amp from another company?

satoacs

its not an insane question. the reson why someone would mismatch them is because they like it that way. its perfectly reasonable.
in my case ill go with matching components then.
if i go with speakers from the pioneer or a good quality company, would it be better if i got an amp from that company to power those speakers, or would it be ok if i got an amp from another company?

SpeedKing

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I didn't say "insane", I said inane which means silly.

Nothing personal, but you really do ask some ridiculous questions and it goes to show how much you really don't know. I've pointed this out in that *other* system thread of yours and you never did answer any of the questions I asked you.

That said, NO ONE mixes and matches woofers and tweeters, except maybe you, and your reason ("because [I] like it that way") isn't a good one. If it's "perfectly reasonable", then why did you change your mind all of a sudden?

Whatever brand of speakers you end up getting, it doesn't matter what brand of amp you get (watts are watts), however, you should stick with good quality equipment. There are a lot of amp brands on the market and what you buy is going to be dictated by your budget and goals.

satoacs

OH OK INANE...ok sorry that was my mistake.

i do ask questions that may seem rediculous, but if you look at it from my point of view(a kid who is about half your age and has no expierience in the building process of an RX7, ive only done maintenece on all kinds of cars and trucks, all with aftermarket systems), then you may understand how i keep coming up with these quesitons that seem rediculous. the reason why i keep asking questions here is because i cant get any real answers where i live because i know a lot more than my friends and there just arent anybody that has any knowledge on modification and other things related to the RX7. the only way to learn is to ask.

there are people that have mismatched their woofers and tweetersbecause they werent looking for quality, the only thing they wanted was boom....the system sounded horrible, except at high volumes, but he liked it that way.

thats gotta be the most supportive thing youve said to me recently , thank you (no offence intended)

Speedking: since youve been so much help to me and have so much expierience from your years in audio, can you or anyone with your expierience and knowledge help me on this other post?
https://www.rx7club.com/interior-exterior-audio-26/battery-regulator-340143/

rotarywrath

unless your using a componet system (i.e. mid bass and tweet) I would not recomend tweeters. by themselfs they have poor sound quailty and are just plain annoying. Trust me I worked as car audio installer for a while, but if you just have to have them please don't put them on your A pillars. Also I would not suggest running subs and highs on the same amp, espeacially if your wanting 4 subs. You could pull it off with a HOSS 4 channel amp, but I wouldn't suggest it. Get a 2 channel or a mono amp for your subs and a 2 or 4 channel for your highs, you will be alot happier with that.

http://www.kicker.com/HUShow.cfm?ID=55128

This is a link to my "show truck" persay take a look at it. That is how I prefer to set up my front stage.

satoacs

thats what i am going to do. I am going to have 2 sub, 2 amps, 2 woofers, and 2 tweeters. one amp for the subs, the other for the 4 other speakers. the tweeters will be in the door along with a woofer, the same for the paqssenger side. This is all explain in my other sound system post.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...89#post3397389

KeithC

Using mids and tweeters from different companies isnt a bad thing IF you are using an electronic crossover and multiple amps for them and you know the response characteristics, the best crossover point and your good at matching the levels between the two. OTHERWISE if you are using a single amp for them Most any pro you ask will say to use a good component set with passive crossovers designed for them. Don't think for a miniute you can throw a cap on the tweeter and have it sound worth a damn.

SpeedKing

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But seriously, what's the point? Why even go through the trouble? Just buy a matched set from any one company. Their audio engineers designed, built, and R&D'd their components to all work together.

SpeedKing

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I have no experience w/ battery regulators. Lightning Audio *is* a good brand however, and I have no reason to believe that it would be a bad product.

KeithC

Well Speed......the point would be to have the best sounding stereo that budget, time and knowledge allow. In satoacs case given what we know so far, I agree that a good component set is likely the best choice. However, someone who does have the budget, time and knowledge can surpass the performance of an off the shelf component set. The one advantage someone designing their own has over the "companies" is knowlege of the cars interior. Off the shelf systems are typically designed to have a "reasonable" response in an average smallish space. Some of the luxury automakers realize this and have teamed up with high end audio brands to offer systems designed for the vehicles interior. I suspect that some of these audio companies are just looking for exposure while others are truly designing systems that would be hard to beat with off the shelf stuff. Very few car audio companies have true audio engineers that design their own crossover networks. Most go to whatever Chineese factory they buy their speakers from, pick the colors they want, and maybe design a cool grill to look good on the demo board. You would hope they listen to what they are putting their name on in an actual vehicle but there's no guarantee of that. This may sound like an exageration but I assure you its not. Iv'e had conversations with car audio "Product R&D" guys who say their primary concern is not in-car sound quality but demo board efficiency(loudness). They know that most people will pick the louder speaker over the others most of the time. When designing components to be loud.....sound quality is typically compromised.

I didn't intend to get off on a rant but you touched on something that is not always as it appears.

satoacs

ok, well i left it in another thread so that someone with expierience in that area could help

as for KeithC: your post would be too long to quote and respond to . I am going to go with a component system because i think it would be better for the woofers and tweeters, but i will have subs from a different company than the other higher frequency speakers. you are right, i dont have expierience in car audio, but i do have a lot of expierience in home theater systems, but thats almost completekly differnt because those are usually all in square rooms. but its an ok place to start off dont you think?

blue 88

it doesn't really matter what brand of speakers you use and amps as long as when it all goes together it sounds good. What you want is a good soundstage and strong bass, don't aim the tweeters right at the occupants of the car because most tweeters are too "bright" from what i have heard the infinty reference component sets are a very nice smooth sounding set. from what i have read you don't really have a set budget and i think that would be the best place to start with and then go from there. you don't need an amp for speakers to begin with if you can't fit one into the budget. you can pm me if you have any questions as to hooking up a system or most other things.

Roger Collins

sataocs

why screw it up just take your car to a good install shop.

satoacs

didnt i say that i was going to do that in one of my earlier posts? even if i take it to an install shop i will still need to have or know what i want them to get for me....thats kinda what the point of this thread is.....

SpeedKing

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Not all shops are the same and most are authorized dealers for different brands. Why don't you go to the most qualified shop and ask what they can do for you???

DJ Kontakt

Untrue, but for answering this mans questions, I dont see why you shouldnt say that. Some people who have the know how do build their own component sets out of components from nearly unknown companies. They never use audiobahn and pioneer :P

I use Peerless, Vifa, CDT, ADS, and some othe obscure ones.


Anyway, I reccoment that you go to www.conceptconcept.com and find your local Concept Audio dealer. They are great speakers that are well priced, and the shops that deal them tend to know what they are doing.

CDT also has great , well priced stuff at www.thezeb.com, but you would have to install it yourself.

SpeedKing

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Why did you quote me as saying, "yes very inane but don assume anybody knows anything at all. Remember, we are on the internet. People who cant do anything in reality go here to try."?

I NEVER said that!

Anyway, most people (99%+) DON'T build their own component sets. Sure, a few audio enthusiasts go to Madisound or elsewhere and mix and match woofers and tweeters, but that's not an undertaking that people bother with.

And BTW, CDT *does* make awesome gear. I have a set of their HD-62 components in my Miata. And I have mixed feelings on a/d/s. I don't think their product is as good after the Directed buyout. Same goes for PPI.

DJ Kontakt

theres something wrong with my computer or the server and it put the first part of my post inside the quote, i have no idea why that happened. It didnt even look like that when I posted.

satoacs

thats exactly what im doing right now.....ive gone to a bunch of shops, found a good dealer and now i know what they can do for me, i know what im going to get and what im going to have them install.

i decided not to go with seperate components for this project, maybe later on in another project, but not this one. Infinity speakers sound good to me, but the amps, im still looking...i still like the audiobahn look though