I have been looking for an EMS and I had been leaning hard towards the E6X. However, reading about bug reports and Haltech AUS not saying a thing has me not thinking Haltech.

So, those who had problems have you worked through them. Would you go Haltech again?

I am also considering the Microtech. Wolf was a brief consideration until I found out they dont datalog (Are you kidding?)

Thanks!

James

 

Not to mention the v4 and v4+ does not support the stock FC trailing toggle!
Blasphemy!


-Ted

 

As a long time Wolf user, I admit defeat!!!

 

LOL, am I sensing sarcasm...i am so bad at internet sarcasm Should I be looking at the Wolf?

 

I believe the V4 Wolf is a fine EMS. Nice software, good resolution. Way better secondary staging than the V3....blah blah blah.

But the lack of support for the stock trailing coilpack is ridiculous, especially when my old V3 could do that no problem!!!

 

I persoanlly would not buy another E6X I would have gone with an e6k if I could do things overa gain or an Autronic SM2 and their ignition package. I personally had an LT-8 before and it works flawlessly fired right up first try.
And then i have only had my car start about a dozzen times with this E6X and again I am at a dead end won't start again.
So Good Luck on your decision.

 

So , why did you leave the Microtech behind and go with the Haltech?

James

 

Because I wanted some of the little options that Haltech had that Microtech didn't... ie closed loop... etc.
But in hindsite if I had stuck with Microtech i would have been driving my car this summer instead of waiting for haltech to fix my E6X.
But Live and learn I guess.

 

You can always sell your e6x and buy a e6k used off someone, you will come out ahead in the end if you do it right.


I wouldnt blame the e6x on the car not starting, the e6x is programmable, is it firing the injectors and triggering spark? Are you still able to communicate with it via the laptop? If so, I think it's doing it's job just fine. You are responsible for programming it with the correct data for your car.

If you cannot tune (not you jeffery in particular, but anyone who buys these systems) you will have problems. If you are unwilling to struggle through the learning curve to get to a point where you can tune your car, you will ultimately fail to get it to work well and likely blame the ECU.

It's not the ECU's fault, the ECU is just running a path, a path that you define. As long as it keeps running the path it's doing it's job just fine, nevermind if the path defines parameters that make your engine flood and run like ****, it's not the ECU's job to fix that.... it's up to the person tuning it to define the correct path.

The microtechs come preconfigured for the car you will be running them on (approximately anyways), the haltechs don't. So there is more dependancy on the installer/tuner than with the microtech. Some people may not like this, but personally, I prefer to be in control of everything, I can take the E6K off my car and swap it onto any other car I own without having to send it back to Haltech, it's completley configurable by me... as long as I am bright and persistent enough to handle it, it's great.


I have a E6K, I have used a E6X and thought it was a fine unit, the internals were updated from the E6K but there have been alot of reports of problems with the E6X. Wether these problems are just user errors or the E6X is to blame, I do not know. I have personally mailed Haltech regarding the reported E6X problems and got no response, so this is a strike for Haltech. The E6K is bulletproof though, pick up a E6K used and it will be cheaper than the microtech or E6X, and you will be happy with the results unless it's a 20B. Just beware as always when buying used items, make sure the seller is trustworthy.

 

I would jump on an E6K if it was NIB. However, I just can't get a used EMS.

Good to hear you have not had any problems!

 

Yes you are correct, I have much theory about efi, but only chunks of first hand knowlege.
The car not starting this time is most likely something to do with a part not working correctly or programming. Correct, but my Haltech has gone back to AUS twice for parts not my fault. so my struggle with this particular E6X is quite a frusterating one. My story is long and I am sure can be traced back a ways on this board with the problems I have been having the first time it went was because my Haltech was Crap out of the box, the scond time is because they didn't fix one chip, the third problem was because my wiring loom was assembled improperly two wires mispinned. This caused frusterations of about 9 months. So far I have had little success with even getting a chance to road tune my car because of weather and the like. But all in all I think Haltech is a good company just as good as any other, I have just gotten a **** run of things!

 

I'm sorry to hear you've had some bad luck with it, your persistence will pay off in the end I'm sure. I have been hearing alot of bad things about the haltech customer service and have had some negative experiences myself. I've actually heard so much bad that when I fried my idle speed stepper motor controller chip in my E6K due to a shorted wire, I didnt even bother with the shipping to haltech AU option knowing it would take forever. Instead I removed the burned chip and fixed up the circuit board, I just continue operating without idle speed control which I've never used anyways... when I decide to use it I will have to order the motorola chip and solder it on.

It's a bit discomforting that their customer support is bad enough to make me go that route, so in this respect I would not recommend buying from haltech... or ANY overseas company that will require you shipping your product overseas for service, if customer service is important to you. I generally expect poor customer service from any company nowadays, which pushes me to try more DIY than consumerism.

I heard your car is running again jeffrey, glad to hear it, those pesky grounds. Good luck.

 

Yes thanks, I did get it running again, But If I were to do It all over again not knowing what I know now... and the chances of it happening again to me the series of very misfortunate events that I just told you about is very unlikely.
Good Luck on your decision.

 

my fuse block was miswired...but I checked everything before attempting to start the car.

wouldn't register rpms the first day...sanded cleaned gnds, fired up the next try. 5k miles now, lovin' it!

 

WTF, how could Haltech miswire this stuff. Are they subcontracting their work ? You would think that this could be causing problems and issues.

Could thing you found that ! What would have happened if you powered it up in the misswired state?

James

 

That harness was probably built either on a Monday morning, or on Friday afternoon an hour before closing time

 

Yeah and cost me like 8 months of frustrations! and about $300 for shipping

 

I have an E11v2. The CAS on my 3rd gen RX7 will NOT work with this EMS. I think there there are serious problems with the 'reluctor' circuitry on the E11v2. See my thread on this forum.

I would NEVER buy a Haltech again!!!

 

we have never had a prob with the e11..we have a 20b working great with the e11v2..maybe something wired up wrong?

 

I've seen two different e6x's bought new, both have problems out of the box. One wouldn't kick the fuel pump relay and the other pinned the number 4 injector wide open, grossly flooding the motor. My used e6k started right up with an install on a fresh rebuild. I'm happy as can be with it, but I try to steer friends away from the e6x. Haltech seems to have really humped a football on that one...

 

Well I just bought an X to replace my Wolf3D V3.1. I hope it wont' let me down.

The install of my friends X was problem free. We made sure to keep the CAS harness separate from the others, in light of the trigger issues, and it works great.

 

I hope so too, Just before you start, make sure that the pin's on the Main wiring harness are correct, as well as the fust box. and ensure you sheild the CAS and ground it on one end, toward the firewall worked better for me.
Good Luck. All the best to you,
On a side note mine is finally running good, no ignition break-up and starts on the first revolution of the engine.